Meandeck Open (12/28/08) - TOP EIGHT LISTS!

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Originally Posted by Smmenen

I am very surprised that there is no thread on Ubgw Threshold. Care to suggest a list you consider optimal?

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There's a few Ubgw lists in the Ugw thread, I think.

Re: Playing Chapin's list. I agree with everyone above that the card choices are not optimal, but I also understand running the thing anyway, just as an homage. I mean, it's "close enough," though maybe not "completely there." If I were to tune it up a bit:

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Sensei's Divining Top

4 Force of Will
4 Counterbalance
4 Daze

4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Thoughtseize

4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Dark Confidant

4 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
3 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
1 Island

Sideboard
4 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Engineered Plague
4 Tormod's Crypt
3 Krosan Grip

I'm like 95% on this. CB #4 may be better as Bob #4, though I'm not sure. In the board, I'm not committed to the anti-Dredge package; maybe it should be 3 Crypt / 1 Relic, 4 Leyline, etc. Regardless, I think this is an improvement over the Chapin list, it's certainly better than the list I ran the last time I ran Ugbw:

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=10178

I don't want to turn this thread into a Threshold discussion, but that list does look really good.

How about instead of whining about the word "really" and talking about threshold we do a metagame breakdown?

I think that'd be a refreshing change of pace.

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Originally Posted by Zach Tartell

How about instead of whining about the word "really" and talking about threshold we do a metagame breakdown?

I think that'd be a refreshing change of pace.

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Well, for refreshment, go to the beginning of the thread, where I've edited the first post with the full metagame breakdown.
It's not whining to state that there is too much hyperbole being thrown around. Can't we discuss things without saying silly things like "absolute rape" or "very weird" when we, in fact, don't mean it?

How does Helm-Combo interact with the words "Mono-White"?

Are they really relying on mulliganing into Leyline? That seems extremely subpar.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

How does Helm-Combo interact with the words "Mono-White"?

Are they really relying on mulliganing into Leyline? That seems extremely subpar.

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Yeah -- they were running Scrublands for Leyline. My error.

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Originally Posted by Bardo

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Sensei's Divining Top

4 Force of Will
4 Counterbalance
4 Daze

4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Thoughtseize

4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Dark Confidant

4 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
3 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
1 Island

Sideboard
4 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Engineered Plague
4 Tormod's Crypt
3 Krosan Grip

I'm like 95% on this.

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-1 Daze
-1 USea
-1 Tundra

+1 City of Brass
+1 Tropical Island
+1 Bob


Can we please stop discussing Smmenen's list now?

Also, the $711 wasn't to meet Chapin. Instead it was paying him for probably around 14 to 20 hours of his time ($40ish an hour, which doesn't seem completely unreasonable if you're actually gaining a tangible benefit from it, not saying I'd pay that rate for that particular service, but obviously someone was willing too).

I hope you guys continue to bring in 40~60 people an event and that your next event is a success (and that you can guarentee T8 prizes next time). Looking forward to the T8 lists from the next event.

Ad Nauseam combo needs to be broken down.
I was playing TES, not ANT.

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Originally Posted by Smmenen

Yeah -- they were running Scrublands for Leyline. My error.

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Ah. How does that happen anyway? Was that a team deck or something? I'd be interested in a list.

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Originally Posted by T is for TOOL

Since Leyline typically must start the game in play to be effective, the probability of it being in your opening hand directly relates to its effectiveness as SB hate (i.e. The fewer copies that you run, the less effective it becomes against anything). If you determine that Leyline is the best graveyard hate that you can sideboard, but you don't have enough space to run 4, then it's perfectly reasonable to question your 'determination'.

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you don't understand math lol.

You don't understand the rules for posting. Next time you get a warning.
-TOOL

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Ah. How does that happen anyway? Was that a team deck or something? I'd be interested in a list.

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I think it was also running X number of Mox Diamonds too.

I thought the turn-out was great for this event.Two of my friends made top 4
Looking foward to the next event..By the way wtf's up with chapins attitude,doese he think his shit don't stink?

Also, congrats to Brian DeMars....I thought your u/w control deck was the most interesting deck I saw there all day. GO Mull Drifter GO! but seriously, kick ass deck..

Anyone have a have S/B suggestions for dreadstill U/R? Have been testing the deck and it just doesn't seem to get there 80% of the time!Maybe it's the board.
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Wrong thread. Try here: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=8964
- Bardo