[SCD] Unexpectedly Absent

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

I played Scepter in Modern. Its fine. I mean if you get Scepter + UA, and they dont have decay in hand you win right? They won't ever draw another card, assuming they dont have a draw spell, and they wont have a way to stop you.

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They could just not play nonland permanents for a while.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

They could just not play nonland permanents for a while.

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Isn't that tantamount to losing for most decks?

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Originally Posted by swats0n

I think this card is good, 2-3 copies. Design is odd though, are you ever going to cast this with X>0? It might as well just be WW - perm to top of deck. And are they running out of words for card names or something?

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Yeah definitely. If you draw this late(r) game and just have extra mana lying around. No reason to not delay an opponent's threat for even more than a turn if you have the chance too. It makes it scale a lot better as the game goes out too because of this utility.

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Originally Posted by swats0n

And are they running out of words for card names or something?

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It sounds like a chapter from the Hobbit.

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Originally Posted by swats0n

And are they running out of words for card names or something?

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I like the name.

Personally, I get a little fed up with their default template for every creature ever. The first word describes either their temperament or title; the second word is either their vocation or species. Sometimes it's just a bit like MadLibs: The Gathering.

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Originally Posted by Bad Decks Palyer

It sounds like a chapter from the Hobbit.

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Heck yeah it does! Hopefully it will be easy to acquire in sets, for I should like to put it in my Kithkin deck for this very reason. Well that, and it deals with lots of things and shit.

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Originally Posted by TsumiBand

I like the name.

Personally, I get a little fed up with their default template for every creature ever. The first word describes either their temperament or title; the second word is either their vocation or species. Sometimes it's just a bit like MadLibs: The Gathering.

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Anaba ......................................... Ancestors
Blightsteel ................................... Bombardier
Cadaverous .................................. Crusader
Dark ........................................... Dragon
Eternal ........................................ Effigy
Frenetic ...................................... Faerie
Giant .......................................... Goblins
Hammerfist .................................. Highwayers
Ivory .......................................... Image
Junún ......................................... Jaguar
Kjeldoran ..................................... Kithkin
Llanowar ..................................... Leprechaun
Mindless ...................................... Miner
Necrotic ...................................... Nightshadow
Opal ........................................... Ooze
Puresteel ..................................... Poltergeist
Quirion ........................................ Quorthon
Raging ........................................ R(a)iders
Savage ....................................... Specter
Two-Headed ................................ Troll
Umbral ........................................ Unicorn
Volcanic ...................................... Vampire
Well-Worded ................................. War-Riders
Xantid ......................................... Xenophobe
Yixlid ........................................... Yetti
Zhalfirin ....................................... Zombie

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Ah great, now I want a card called Well-Worded War-Riders.

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Originally Posted by Malakai

Flavor in Magic has gotten bad!

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Originally Posted by Finn

I think Stax decks would shy away from something so white-heavy. I think the most likely home for this is Miracles. They already have to have a mana supply that supports WW for Entreat, though that is not until after stabilizing. But the deck runs well on two colors and lots of basics. It already has Jace for that nice synergy. And it is a slow control deck with a combo finish. You can protect your piece with this, and then grab it again fast with Top if needed. It even has nice interaction with Counterbalance in a pinch. UA would be firing on all cylinders in a deck of that sort.

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Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
I completely agree with you, but that being said, Miracles has better answers to creature based permanents. I think the only place that I want this is versus a Enchantment or Planeswalker, where Oblivion Ring or Detention Sphere already fills a good role, while being easier to cast and a better Counterbalance target. Maybe in the side versus grindier Control decks, but that's about it (and I really really really really want to believe!)
Could see play in the UWR Geist decks, as an alternate Submerge effect.

I'd play a Mindless Miner. (if it isn't already a thing)

Mindless Miner RR
Creature - Donkey Assassin

2R, Tap: Destroy target land an opponent controls at random. If that land is nonbasic, snow, or burning, destroy another target land at random and sacrifice Mindless Miner.
"Oh, but I... oh." - Eddie Izzard
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Originally Posted by TsumiBand

I'd play a Mindless Miner. (if it isn't already a thing)

Mindless Miner RR
Creature - Donkey Assassin

2R, Tap: Destroy target land an opponent controls at random. If that land is nonbasic, snow, or burning, destroy another target land at random and sacrifice Mindless Miner.
"Oh, but I... oh." - Eddie Izzard
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Bah, people would just start to sideboard sets of Ivory Leprechauns and completely laugh at the Miners.
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So whatever happened with this card?

It seems really good and yet no decks play it, not even decks that feature Isochron Scepter like Quinn.

I would think it would be an autoinclude in Scepter decks because if your opponent doesn't have an answer to it in their current hand, then they lose to a Scepter lock completely.

I've seen a select few Miracles decks run it, but that's about it.

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Originally Posted by Captain Hammer

So whatever happened with this card?

It seems really good and yet no decks play it, not even decks that feature Isochron Scepter like Quinn.

I would think it would be an autoinclude in Scepter decks because if your opponent doesn't have an answer to it in their current hand, then they lose to a Scepter lock completely.

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Who want to play a WW removal that don't work against TNN? No one dude.

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Originally Posted by Gheizen64

Who want to play a WW removal that don't work against TNN? No one dude.

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A deck that can almost ignore TNN and is mostly concerned with non-creature non-land permanents.

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Originally Posted by Captain Hammer

So whatever happened with this card?

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TNN happened.

Might be interesting when that PoS fishstick leaves the format.

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Originally Posted by JPoJohnson

A deck that can almost ignore TNN and is mostly concerned with non-creature non-land permanents. And isn't better off just playing Venser.

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Originally Posted by Finn

I think Stax decks would shy away from something so white-heavy. I think the most likely home for this is Miracles. They already have to have a mana supply that supports WW for Entreat, though that is not until after stabilizing. But the deck runs well on two colors and lots of basics. It already has Jace for that nice synergy. And it is a slow control deck with a combo finish. You can protect your piece with this, and then grab it again fast with Top if needed. It even has nice interaction with Counterbalance in a pinch. UA would be firing on all cylinders in a deck of that sort.

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Agree. Testing out Stax and it can be really hard to get to WW at times. And the deck already has quite a few WW spells already in Humility and Elspeth, so can't really add another one.