[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

new Doomsday art is neat. Only thing about it is that it could be more retro or vintage magic art if it wasn't drawn on a computer.
New undiscovered paradise art is boring.

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Originally Posted by Sloshthedark

lol, Doomsday, terrible, terrible art commision

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Agree, so ugly...

Well, the concept of the commission is pretty cool, as described in the mothership article. Execution? Looks like it belongs on a trap card art from back in zendikar imho


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Originally Posted by jandax

Well, the concept of the commission is pretty cool, as described in the mothership article. Execution? Looks like it belongs on a trap card art from back in zendikar imho


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It just doesn't look gritty enough, nor does it capture the epicness of a "Worlds Judgement Day", if you know what I mean. This one could be a Diabolic Tutor artwork

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Originally Posted by Lemnear

It just doesn't look gritty enough, nor does it capture the epicness of a "Worlds Judgement Day", if you know what I mean. This one could be a Diabolic Tutor artwork

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This

Pink demons bursting out the floor is a very strange depiction of an event called Doomsday.

Doomsday at a bible camp [emoji23]


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(Supposed) Undiscovered Paradise is pretty sweet looking. I like how there's a Birds of Paradise flying in it, makes a ton of sense.

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Originally Posted by jandax

Looks like it belongs on a trap card art from back in zendikar imho

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Doomsday is the ultimate trap card.

My god the doomsday art is depressing...

"What should we do to showcase the ultimate annihilation, the possible end of the universe"

"Random fuckface demon outta nowhere should do the trick"

I would have never gotten into magic had the cards look as bad as they do today.

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Originally Posted by jimmythegreek

I would have never gotten into magic had the cards look as bad as they do today.

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Granted I'm nowhere near as naive as I was 20 years ago, but the art and flavor has gotten less intellectual and edgy than it used to be in my eyes. But at least it's not as bad as the lame comic book imagery of the Weatherlight Saga... A lot of the stuff around the Saga was neat, but the Saga itself was painful.

I'd love another set with the feel of The Dark or Mirage. I felt cooler playing those cards than I do nowadays...

I loved the saga and rath cycle art

Everything before Rath cycle, and Urza block, has the 'good old days look' afaic. Rath cycle art was still superior to anything they make now, but the slow trend downwards had begun. The older stuff, up until Mirage block, had something of as flashback look to ancient cool history. Antiquities, Fallen Empires and the Dark capture that best of all.

After playing for 20 years, I still say that Vesuvan Doppelganger has the best art ever, of any card. And the best looking versions of that card are the fbb.

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Originally Posted by Stan

Everything before Rath cycle, and Urza block, has the 'good old days look' afaic. Rath cycle art was still superior to anything they make now, but the slow trend downwards had begun. The older stuff, up until Mirage block, had something of as flashback look to ancient cool history. Antiquities, Fallen Empires and the Dark capture that best of all.

After playing for 20 years, I still say that Vesuvan Doppelganger has the best art ever, of any card. And the best looking versions of that card are the fbb.

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Thats cause there wasnt really any distinct art direction until the rath cycle, the story wasn't as important to the game then. I think weatherlight saga art up to the end of the old border is where they started to prune out the abstract art that was really out there, but many artists were still able to show their personal style in their works. Afterwards stylization became very homogenized and only a few artists with very distinct styles (Nielsen, Guay ect) create very distinct art while most of the images are more akin to something like keyframe illustrations, with everything having to adhere to a strict style and story. Personally I find the weatherlight art to be the happy medium between being interesting and unique while still delivering the story and lore, while I prefer the abstract or really out there art for unique cards like doomsday. For the new doomsday illustration, I think both the direction and execution both have their faults, really just failing to create the sense that something insane was happening. The biggest problem is that the art just looks like he is summoning a 6/6 demon fatty or something at that power level, something that isnt that big of a deal nowadays.

Vesuvian Doppelganger is one of my favorites too.

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Granted I'm nowhere near as naive as I was 20 years ago, but the art and flavor has gotten less intellectual and edgy than it used to be in my eyes. But at least it's not as bad as the lame comic book imagery of the Weatherlight Saga... A lot of the stuff around the Saga was neat, but the Saga itself was painful.

I'd love another set with the feel of The Dark or Mirage. I felt cooler playing those cards than I do nowadays...

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I always wondered if I was looking back at the old sets with nostalgia clouding my vision, but I recently cracked a booster box of Homelands (don't ask), and just looking at the art and the flavor text on the cards made me feel so much more invested in the story that the cards were telling than anything I've read on the new cards.

I mean, sure, Homelands was a disaster zone mechanically, from a development standpoint, but the design, the art, the flavor was extraordinary. Nothing from the new sets can even match the beauty of that set's atmosphere. In fact, every set from that era has hand-painted art, actual meaningful flavor text, non-trivial storylines... It's not just nostalgia if you grew up with those cards. They were simply designed with more meaningful purpose back then.

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Originally Posted by MGB

I always wondered if I was looking back at the old sets with nostalgia clouding my vision, but I recently cracked a booster box of Homelands (don't ask), and just looking at the art and the flavor text on the cards made me feel so much more invested in the story that the cards were telling than anything I've read on the new cards.

I mean, sure, Homelands was a disaster zone mechanically, from a development standpoint, but the design, the art, the flavor was extraordinary. Nothing from the new sets can even match the beauty of that set's atmosphere. In fact, every set from that era has hand-painted art, actual meaningful flavor text, non-trivial storylines... It's not just nostalgia if you grew up with those cards. They were simply designed with more meaningful purpose back then.

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Homelands was great for that too! Another more recent example of a sucky block that drew you into the story nonentheless was Kamigawa.

Anyhow, wrt individual cards, Revised Plateau, AN Serendib Efreet, Earthbind and even Gaea's Liege (image could have been taken out of Monty Python), all of them pieces of art which may not have been too detailed, but with more character than anything they print these days. Many of those images would fit on tarot cards even. A recent card which comes close in how it evokes some of that awe is Dark Depths. But you'll notice that this recent example is already a decade old. :(

With all this I'm still it a huge fan of the art.

I like the border and the feel the older(pre7th)art have us.

I liked good cards. I still started playing and had crap as always but I always wanted good cards.

From the start in hated cards like righteousness and other combat trick cards.

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I always wondered if I was looking back at the old sets with nostalgia clouding my vision, but I recently cracked a booster box of Homelands (don't ask), and just looking at the art and the flavor text on the cards made me feel so much more invested in the story that the cards were telling than anything I've read on the new cards.

I mean, sure, Homelands was a disaster zone mechanically, from a development standpoint, but the design, the art, the flavor was extraordinary. Nothing from the new sets can even match the beauty of that set's atmosphere. In fact, every set from that era has hand-painted art, actual meaningful flavor text, non-trivial storylines... It's not just nostalgia if you grew up with those cards. They were simply designed with more meaningful purpose back then.

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Did you read the Homelands comic book? I still have mine. Absolutely fantastic.

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Originally Posted by jandax

Well, the concept of the commission is pretty cool, as described in the mothership article. Execution? Looks like it belongs on a trap card art from back in zendikar imho


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I was surprised how "direct" is the art direction by reading the new FoW story

I think the DD is a 3way fail

A, the art direction direction itself is wrong, the idea doesn't meet the common understanding of the term and doesn't leave much space for improvement ... just B&W nuclear cloud would work brilliantly in that sense despite generic in overall... which reminds me of Fastbond with the gush from the Gush alter
B, artist - while technically meeting the requirements of A the execution doesn't add anything beyond it, and certainly doesn't save A,... reminds me of highschool homework
C, they brag about A+B, stating that this is not a recycled but on purpose and as they planned which is the worst about it...

for me the art is more or less acceptable till 2000 (when I ceased to play), certaily the older the better, my return in 2009 was met with many hardships (today it look like completely different game)... I'd love to learn about the world/"story" just by the flavour texts references and leave the rest to the imagination of the player ... I'm mostly untouched by the new flavour/storyline but what I see second/trird hand just can't work with me even if I was 12

I thought I might be just too old but something went terribly wrong around 2000 with beginning of mass 3D/digital art - like Baldurs gate (low-res but still presentable today) and Neverwinter nights (total crap) ...took 15y to finally have acceptable (better) looking game in the genre in Pillars of Eternity

also while watching Caleb Durward stream a Cube stipulation draft (picking by the most tame, peaceful artwork), I was depressed how generic-aggresive and dull the art has become and I just really don't pay attention to it and subconsciously filter it out

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