I know, I know. But just hear me out. I know Recruiters are a big part of the deck. All I'm doing is trying dozens iterations of the deck without them to see how it performs before dumping six bills on four 1/1s.
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I know, I know. But just hear me out. I know Recruiters are a big part of the deck. All I'm doing is trying dozens iterations of the deck without them to see how it performs before dumping six bills on four 1/1s.
You can grab the promos on eBay for less than $400Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Keller
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Recruiters are going for $150 on Ebay now. :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ish
I think I will be playing this deck exclusively on MTGO. If recruiters drop below $100 again, I would consider picking up a set on paper though.
Weird question: Does anyone here have 1x FTV Ancient Tomb they are looking to sell on MTGO? I have 3 of the FTV versions and it will really bug me if I have mis-matching cards. This is the last thing I need before being able to complete the deck.
Dilemma: Buying the promo recruiter (Black Bordered and cool), only pbrolbem they'll be the only foil in the deck?
White bordered recuiter(wb and expensive as hell).
Could some one enlighten me on the lands match up(DarkDepths).
So, I could only find the promo foil ones. They look cool, but my OCD kicked in and now I'm in the process of foiling out as much as I can, unfortunately with a decent expense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorker
Some pieces are easy to foil and that should be enough for any tournament. Otherwise try to find the portal ones if your OCD is as bad as mine (see needing the 4th shiny ancient tomb above).
I've played the lands matchup a couple times. Obviously, if you get the moon down fast enough and preferably a revoker on the diamonds, it's lights out. Just be careful as some versions will run 1x graveyard shuffler (ie gaea's blessing) SB against mill strategies. They also usually run punishing fire and will hold them for your painters. Overall I think it's a good matchup.
Quick report: played this in a daily 2 days ago and went 3-1. Beat RUG with a turn 1-2 moon in both games. Beat death & taxes twice with bridge and multiple comboing off through hate, and lost to jund and early Lilianas/hymns. I played a version with 20 land, including 5 fetch and 1 basic plains and 3 etutors. Tried 3 white leyline and 1 Humility SB. Leyline would have got me there against Jund but didn't see them. I'm liking this strategy over trinisphere or thorns, as every time I have dropped a trinisphere it has slowed me down more than opponent. With leyline a, burn becomes a better matchup and storm can't win as long as you hold pyroblasts for their echoing truth or other bounce spell. I'm also playing enough white to hard cast it if I need to. Still play one canonist.
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For the Jund/Junk/Pox/heavy discard decks, I'm rolling with Metrognome out of my board. Card is so damn good and swingy.
@ drude1:I know, i f i have 3card of a certain editio i must get the 4th of that same ed.Quote:
So, I could only find the promo foil ones. They look cool, but my OCD kicked in and now I'm in the process of foiling out as much as I can, unfortunately with a decent expense.
Some pieces are easy to foil and that should be enough for any tournament. Otherwise try to find the portal ones if your OCD is as bad as mine (see needing the 4th shiny ancient tomb above).
@keller, just outf curiosity, how many gnomes?
Ps:My lgs owner hates me, when i ask do you have "x" card he says : where do you come up with all this old cards XD
It depends on the meta. With blue in check with all of our Blast effects, I'm focusing on punishing those aforementioned archetypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorker
I'm also going Mono-Red. Personal preference.
I would do this too, but then I'd have to find fuggin gnome tokens...so I'll pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Keller
OT: why i think that gnome tokens will be more expensive than metrognome?
Also has anyone tried to stream on twitch his/her/it matches?
Also is anyone here playing mtgo with the nick Utley26?, he's the one havi the most successes with painter on modo.
I'll be happy to stream/record if someone will lend me the deck online :-P
My mtgo account consists of m11 chaff and that's it
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I have been looking for someone streaming this deck as well. Joe Lossett played this deck on his stream one time, but I think he gave the deck to someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorker
I am putting this together on MTGO (Just need one more FTV ancient tomb). Once I finish it, I will attempt to stream at least a few times a week. However, I will be quite inexperienced.
Utley26 is Kap'n Cook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorker
Joe was borrowing it from a friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by cab0747
@now: Thanks i didn't know that
What are the pros and cons for running monored or whitesplash? Which matcups get better or worse?
No offense man, but the front page covers that. Just like every other front page in this forum.
Hit the previous pages button... Probably looks like "<". All your dreams will come true!Quote:
Originally Posted by yugular
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Anyone going to Bazaar of Moxen in Annecy, this May?
Hollywood I love you and your ideas but I find it tough to see how that gnome helps. Aren't there better token generators to use? And doesn't koth win when faceing off against lilianna and discard decks?
Seth
That coming from a guy testing Imperial Painter "sans Recruiters"? Think about it :laugh:
Are you guys having any mana issues with your R/W build at 19 land? Curious if it is just me
4 tomb
3 city
5 fetches
4 mountain
1 furnace
2 Plateau
Yes and no, you are not counting the monkey and the petal in the line up and they help with the explosive start but I do find it comes down to my mulligan, which I am still inexperienced in. I am running with the rule that one land is only keepable if a) It is Sol and I have a petal/Monkey and moon on the play. b) if I have a sol and a top (this can be speculative and I am still testing it bombs if there are no lands coming and not shuffles).Quote:
Originally Posted by jake556
Not sure if this is how others play it.
Yeah I was having problems too. I was used to playing the mono red version with 21 lands, so when I switched to the white splash , I often found myself mulliganing to oblivion. So I increased the land count toQuote:
Originally Posted by jake556
20 by removing a petal and removed the furnace for a basic mountain.
I haven't had any issues.
You really only need 3 land to run the deck... And with 7 Sol lands and 5 accelerants you shouldn't need more.
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Primer part two is up!
Love the primer, however, why is the name of Strawberry Shortcake being nerfed to the uninspiring enlightened painter? Nothing smacks a deathblade player upside the head like saying they just got beaten by strawberry shortcake. Enlightened painter is such a non name you may as we'll just call it "imperial painter with a white splash". Strawberry shortcake not only is trolling, it implies you know something a little exclusive. You may as we'll call death and taxes white weenie. I'm sticking with Stawberry Shortcake, that name is a stone cold killer! At least acknowledge it's historically been called Strawberry Shortcake.Quote:
Originally Posted by jandax
@Jandax: Thanks for writing that primer but a few questions?
1) the deck editor for the site is still bugged? aka The plains in monored are ancient tomb?
2) brainfart
The mopst useful thing for me were the tips about the match ups all in one place.
Atm primer is down?
I do think jack and I should get some saying in the name of the deck.
Seth
Guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do remember back on the days before the legacy format , there was a type 1 or Type 1.5 R/W deck called
Strawberry Shortcake.
I use enlightened painter as the lowest common denominator. Of course Jack should name his own deck, that's no issue. For educational purposes I use the bland name. Hope no one is offended, and yes the deck editor is bugged still. The out of place basics are ancient tombs
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The Metrognomes are used out of the sideboard against discard-laden archetypes; decks that use cards like Hymn, Smallpox, Raven's Crime, Liliana, etc. Koth is fine, but against decks that run heavy discard you're usually going to have slight difficulties early on getting to four mana in the face of Wasteland, Smallpox, Port, etc. Metrognome creates a swift clock and even makes Liliana's "-2" ability that much worse against a resolved Painter.Quote:
Originally Posted by sroncor1
While I only skimmed the white part of the primer, I could defenately (Spelling plate) see the arguments made for the version... All in all, I think you're doing a great job, and I'll be looking forward to the third installment. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jandax
On a side note, I ended at 3rd place in a minor legacy tournament yesterday with 24 participants.. Beating troublesome MU's like MonoU OmniTell and Death and Taxes, I ended up, losing to Jund in the 6th and final round of swiss, getting paired up against the very same Jund deck in the 1/4-finals..
Eventually getting revenche for the loss in the swiss, I ended up with the aforementioned 3rd place and getting 1x Worldwake booster and 4x Intuition.
Playing my own "stock" monoR list, as far as I'm concerned right now... I'm not gotta change a single thing with the deck towards BoM9 in the start of May..
//phoenix4
Btw: Anyone else thinking of going to BoM9? ;)
Nice haul!Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenix4
And could you elaborate on that sentence? Do not understand
Being a monoR player of this deck (I've only tried the white splash once, to a very poor result), I can see the pro's for playing that version. I have just not been fond of splashing another color, but that's probably because the tournaments I'm playing in, generally has so many 3-colored decks, that I can exploit the 7 mainboard moon effects I have in my deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by jandax
Can't argue with the guys results with ePainter (See what I did there? :D), but I'm just not in a position to try it yet :)
I'm gonna run the white splash at my next local for the first time. Seems legit to this mono red player
I'm not saying that it's NOT good, I'm just saying I'm not fond of splashing in my build :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jandax
Sorry if it came out another way :)
On a sidenote: It feels funny, to search for my own name on mtgpulse:
3 times
3 iPainter decks :D
Oh no, I took it exactly as you meant it. I'm just excited to finally have both flavors of the deck.
I could imagine your OP's, pulling their hair :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jandax
Are you going to BoM9? :)
@Hollywood- Ok, I get that. I guess I just plan on winning the first two rounds and not worring about shit like pox. Interesting to fight discard, although wouldn't maximizing welders also help. Try them with Wormcoil. I messed around a little with Wormcoil Engine when it came out. Fast clock, beats removal, fucks up goyf and the creatures of Jund, along with playing well with welder and being easily castable.
I am looking forward to see what you come up with although in a mono red shell I am wondering how you decrease variance without tutors. Are you thinking about just jamming Gamble and going that route?
Seth
52nd at SCG Los Angeles Legacy Open running Kap's list 6-3 had an awesome time!