Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Yesterday I played Tes again.
Wanted to TESt the new list. My meta this time was more local. And I knew most of the decks.
I sided instead of pyroclasms void snare and seize.
Played vs:
Reset hight tide 2-0 PELICANUDO
G1 gitaxian probe to se no fow and the. 12 goblins
G2 I gitaxian se fow and cunning and some blue cards. Then ponder and see 2 xantid. Next turn one gets forces the other sticka and t3 i atack with xantis he responds with brainstorm and dig and a natural spellchain kills him.
-2 cabal -1 therapy
+3 xantid
Slivers 5 color 1-2
G1 I surpasa a daze and a spell pierce and kill him.
G2 he lands a t2 thalia thru cavern. And then a spine followed by 2 wastelands after i had wished for void snare.
G3 I mulll to 6 he also. i see his hand and is 5 lands plus a sliver.
I have a t2 infernal into ad nauseam. But he drew a unknown card and played a fetch and searched instantly for turndra. So I expected he drew a soft counter. I wait he drops a spine. And then more hate. After the game he told me he drew spine and then flusterstorm.
-2 cabal
-1 ponder
+3 decay
Uw thopters 2-1
G1 i just destroy him
G2 i play duress discard his fow and have 2 lands and decay. He has a tutor. He searches for back to basics. And i then missplay as pelicanudo said by when i drew land and petal not destroying thre basica ans trying to combo va no pressure.
G3 he just get ad nauseam away t1 or 2. When i went to 3 life without tutor ans just next card was burning.
+3 decay
-1 chrome
-2 cabal
Death and taxes 2-1
G1 he starts he mulls I mull and i have a respectable turn 2 even with a playable burning wish for thalia if he draws it. So he plays a plaing go. i play pondsr instead of the duress in hand missing one mana source for the kill. Find it. And he plays t2 a md thorn WTF? I wish for void snare but then comes thalia and wasteland...
G2 I empty for 12-14 goblins turn 1 and he didnt had his turor or didnt drew his random ratchet bomb.
G3 he played a thalia but i keept a land heavy hand and decay it. Then he plays a canonist and but i wish for masaacre. He has a aven in hand, a revoker and a sfm. Allong with 2 plains and a mishra. He decides to atack me to 6 life. So I can massacre him and play mana sources and infernal for wish for 14 goblins. I end up wining the race.
+3 decay
+1 infernal
+1 seize
-4 duress
-1 ponder
He latter is sad that he attacked with the mishra for nothing and didnt holt into the aven wich was game if my wish was not top 4.
He also said that being half of the local meta combo (2-3 storm) (1 elves) (2 omnitell) (1-2 hight tide) he plays thorn main, with a canonist, and so.
Ended 3-1 but 4th and so without price...
Beating only table based hate is dificult. But the slivers guy with coubters. Hatebears, pressure, vials, and spines is really a nightmare...
So my oppinion on the list.
Everytime i drew the bayou it sucked, but like the trop before. Its a good evil...
Not playing a bouncer in side is not good. I wished 2 times for it. And being cold to leyline also sucks.
Also not havind discard sb is bad. Wished one time for it (and obv my opp had 2 fows)
Also i would have loved to have played more therapys every time I played etw.
Thats all.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Had a small clashgroup (locals and US peeps) today. Was fun slinging real cards again. Matt played my deck more than me (lol) so he might can comment on Elves and UR Delver (he had the Cabal list with him and I the one with Sol lands).
The only thing I can say, that UG Infect was a reasonable matchup (4-1 in games). If you guys read this: thanks for the afternoon
Edit: maybe add match notes and pictures later
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
I 4-0'd two dailies over the last couple of days with TES (as byron1 and CaviustheGreat). With counterbalance dropping out of the meta a little online, and UR so prevalent, MODO legacy queues have turned into a bit of a freeroll with TES.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Lemnear
Oh, what a pity I was unable to attend the "tournament" or whatever it was.
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CabalTherapy
Oh, what a pity I was unable to attend the "tournament" or whatever it was.
It was just chatter, slinging cards, trying other decks (UG Infect for my part) and such.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Lemnear
Reanimate is really not that effective. Bribery is miles better and has also application against MUD or 12-Post. If you have several fatty-decks in your meta, feel free to run a Bribery in your side.
P.S. Iona on Black against Reanimator is kinda funny
Played on line all day, tested bribery in the board. stole three griselbrands over the course of the day. Honestly pretty impressed.
New subject if you don't mind. Tips and tricks against miracles and blue red delver. Thanks!
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For those of you testing Bribery, I would also recommend Temlin Performance. Not only does it steal their big guy, but against creatureless decks (ANT, TES Mirror) it's a win condition that only costs 4RUU.
It's not currently in my 75 (neither is bribery) but in the past it has won me quite a few games.
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redhamjack
For those of you testing Bribery, I would also recommend Temlin Performance. Not only does it steal their big guy, but against creatureless decks (ANT, TES Mirror) it's a win condition that only costs 4RUU.
It's not currently in my 75 (neither is bribery) but in the past it has won me quite a few games.
I don't like Telemin Performance, there are too many random cases where you just brick. For example, playing against ANT and getting their Bob because you hadn't seen it, hitting the Emrakul off an Omni-Tell player etc. It isn't even stellar against Reanimator, since they might have left in random bad cards, the last Reanimator player I played had a Grave Titan in post-board, for example. You might also hit Sire of Insanity, which seems cool until they top a reanimation spell and every one of their other targets is bigger. Bribery also lets you win in corner cases like taking Blightsteel against MUD players, or taking large Dread Return targets against some Dredge lists.
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Tips on playing against UR Delver
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PartyMonster
Tips on playing against UR Delver
Natural Spellchain and EtW work wonders ... and not trying to force Ad Nauseam.
Edit: sry if response is so short
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Lemnear
Natural Spellchain and EtW work wonders ... and not trying to force Ad Nauseam.
Edit: sry if response is so short
Thank you, a completely ample reply. Much appreciated. What's the SB plan, if any?
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Lemnear
Natural Spellchain and EtW work wonders ... and not trying to force Ad Nauseam.
Edit: sry if response is so short
EtW has seemed mediocre recently against UR with Electrickery running around in multiples.
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itrytostorm
EtW has seemed mediocre recently against UR with Electrickery running around in multiples.
Yeah, I've seen varying amounts and witnessed them boarding Grafdiggers Cages as well. Still doesn't invalidate the option, even if we don't want to suffer from the MB EtW and cutted it. ;)
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PartyMonster
Thank you, a completely ample reply. Much appreciated. What's the SB plan, if any
I still toy with the switch between AN and PIF, but other than that, no SB
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Is the plan against jeskai ascendancy to land bug and go off?
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PartyMonster
Is the plan against jeskai ascendancy to land bug and go off?
Dunno. Never played against it. Doesn't it run Lightning Bolts and/or Counterbalance? I would rather board Decays if that is true. Maybe you can help me out with a Sample list
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Lemnear
Dunno. Never played against it. Doesn't it run Lightning Bolts and/or Counterbalance? I would rather board Decays if that is true. Maybe you can help me out with a Sample list
Some run the counterbalance sb (look for tops game 1), others play a faster version with wind zendikons or other weird stuff, in either case you'd want to bring Decay to the party.
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itrytostorm
EtW has seemed mediocre recently against UR with Electrickery running around in multiples.
That's a post board problem, and even then you have ways to rustle it out of their hand or gain information to see if they have it. U/R tends to tap itself down quite aggressively in the first two turns, which is when you're likely to warrens, so you can usually even therapy out of the bin, taking either electrickery or their dig spells. With a warrens for 6, they might see 5-6 cards assuming they have a ponder or a brainstorm left. That's a worthwhile risk, considering the card is usually just a two of, or they may play forked bolt over it.
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satyr
That's a post board problem, and even then you have ways to rustle it out of their hand or gain information to see if they have it. U/R tends to tap itself down quite aggressively in the first two turns, which is when you're likely to warrens, so you can usually even therapy out of the bin, taking either electrickery or their dig spells. With a warrens for 6, they might see 5-6 cards assuming they have a ponder or a brainstorm left. That's a worthwhile risk, considering the card is usually just a two of, or they may play forked bolt over it.
Warrens for just six guys loses to Young Pyro plus a few spells.
I'd recommend turn 2 latest for 12 goblins minimum if you want to try it against UR.
If this isn't an option, it's probably just better to wait for natural Tendrils or Past in Flames.
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Asthereal
Warrens for just six guys loses to Young Pyro plus a few spells.
I'd recommend turn 2 latest for 12 goblins minimum if you want to try it against UR.
If this isn't an option, it's probably just better to wait for natural Tendrils or Past in Flames.
Thank you, sincerely. That helps so much.
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How often do you guys just fail to be able to go off? That is to say, you make a couple land drops, a couple cantrips, maybe a discrd spell, have a generally decent hand. But end up losing being just a mana, tutor, or disruption spell short? I don't mind losing to racing, or Tempo, or CounterTop, but I too often am getting hands that have the right pieces to not mulligan, and cannot put together the win through either disruption or a quick clock in time.
