[BFZ]Battle for Zendikar spoilers thread

It looks to me that Retreat to Coralhelm has the makings of a winner in Modern and possibly Legacy. But omg, what a time sink with Sensei's Divining Top.

One thing to keep in mind is that, with Kessig, you're looking at four colors. That might be pretty tough to manage considering the majority of them must be Forests or Plains. If you can get it to work though, that's the makings of a really solid combo. Maybe splash blue just for the Retreat?

New card

Scour from existence 7
Instant
Exile target permanent

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Originally Posted by Cire

New card

Scour from existence 7
Instant
Exile target permanent

:laugh: . . . . . :rolleyes: . . . . :frown:

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At least it doesn't give the opponent LIFE though, like Swords to Plowshares.

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Originally Posted by iamajellydonut

One thing to keep in mind is that, with Kessig, you're looking at four colors. That might be pretty tough to manage considering the majority of them must be Forests or Plains. If you can get it to work though, that's the makings of a really solid combo. Maybe splash blue just for the Retreat?

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For the combo to go off, you have to have a repeatable land tutor in play. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like finding a Plateau or Taiga shouldn't be that big of a challenge.

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Originally Posted by DLifshitz

That is true. Actually, I think that a Legacy deck wanting to make use of Strangler would have to play StP as well as DRS in order for there to be exiled cards. Without StP, you'd be relying mostly on your own DRS, and your opponent's FoW and Delve spells. I dunno, I want this card to be playable, but I the way I see it, its conditionality and being in competition with Liliana don't bode well.

Speaking of other removal: Bolt or StP backed up with Snapcaster also feel so much better and versatile, even if they don't have the advantage of Devoid.

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If I were still on deadguy I'd give it a whirl as a 2 of

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Originally Posted by rufus

For the combo to go off, you have to have a repeatable land tutor in play. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like finding a Plateau or Taiga shouldn't be that big of a challenge.

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Something something Knight of the Reliquary?

I would run 4 Retreat to Coralhelm. The first one turns your lands into scry so you can dump extras and dig for KOTR.

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Originally Posted by Cire

New card

Scour from existence 7
Instant
Exile target permanent

:laugh: . . . . . :rolleyes: . . . . :frown:

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We're so spoiled.

I feel like Lucy from Peanuts on the insurance commercial. It should cost three.

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Originally Posted by bruizar

I would run 4 Retreat to Coralhelm. The first one turns your lands into scry so you can dump extras and dig for KOTR.

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Alternatively, multiple copies will allow you to ramp with a mana dork and churn out lands with KotR.

This one becomes very easy to flip with Retreat to Coralhelm

http://community.wizards.com/sites/m...?itok=e7dFe0oF

Any other tools?

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Originally Posted by bruizar

This one becomes very easy to flip with Retreat to Coralhelm

http://community.wizards.com/sites/m...?itok=e7dFe0oF

Any other tools?

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There's an amusing four card infinite loop in Modern now.

Azorius Chancery
Ruin Ghost
Retreat to Coralhelm
Amulet of Vigor

For maximum troll value, add in any Landfall trigger to have ALL OF THE TRIGGERS. One of the few decks to actually have more triggers than Four Horsemen.

EDIT: I wonder if anyone can spot the odd card out in that set-up?

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Originally Posted by Star|Scream

We're so spoiled.

I feel like Lucy from Peanuts on the insurance commercial. It should cost three.

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To be fair . . . it is a common

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Originally Posted by Cire

To be fair . . . it is a common

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It's also a very good looking card. Clean card design, good flavor text, and a fine example of digital art done right.

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/s...mexistence.jpg

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Originally Posted by iamajellydonut

It's also a very good looking card. Clean card design, good flavor text, and a fine example of digital art done right.

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/s...mexistence.jpg

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That curve though...

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers...=943&type=card

I know you're talking about Modern with KotR + Retreat to Coralhelm, but haha that's THE biggest Path to Exile target e-v-e-r. "ohshi, Path the 21/21, hey you don't get a lands? fail to find? man that sucks, i tried to make up for it and but now, now i just i feel bad for you"

I mean I'd still play it, but

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/blightedcataract.jpg

Blighted Cataract
Land
T: Add 1.
5U, T, Sac: Draw two.
Uncommon

According to the name and number crunch, this could be part of a cycle of "Blighted [X]" lands, presumably showing places that have devastated by the Eldrazi.

As for this one in particular, the draw activation is steep, but it could be interesting with Life from the Loam or Crucible of Worlds. Comparing it to the cycling lands: it draws more than one card and comes into play untapped, but costs considerably more and only produces colorless, so you can't play it in an emergency to generate colored mana. Still, there's room for the other entries in this cycle to be good.

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Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies

As for this one in particular, the draw activation is steep, but it could be interesting with Life from the Loam or Crucible of Worlds. Comparing it to the cycling lands: it draws more than one card and comes into play untapped, but costs considerably more and only produces colorless, so you can't play it in an emergency to generate colored mana. Still, there's room for the other entries in this cycle to be good.

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The card just seems waaaaay too expensive to be useful. Plus, it produces colorless. I'd much rather have something competitive like Horizon Canopy. Sure, Horizon Canopy only replaces itself, but six mana plus itself is just way too much to actually be relevant.

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Originally Posted by TsumiBand

I know you're talking about Modern with KotR + Retreat to Coralhelm, but haha that's THE biggest Path to Exile target e-v-e-r. "ohshi, Path the 21/21, hey you don't get a lands? fail to find? man that sucks, i tried to make up for it and but now, now i just i feel bad for you"

I mean I'd still play it, but

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Yeah, though there are a lot of viable counters and techy stuff like Sejiri Steppe available.

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Originally Posted by iamajellydonut

The card just seems waaaaay too expensive to be useful. Plus, it produces colorless. I'd much rather have something competitive like Horizon Canopy. Sure, Horizon Canopy only replaces itself, but six mana plus itself is just way too much to actually be relevant.

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Yeah, this one is probably not so good (although I would have been stoked to have something like this five years ago when I was still heavily brewing Loam decks), but there's room for there to be a cycle of Blighted X lands. In particular, if the green one generates tokens or the black one causes life loss, they could be interesting in Lands or Aggro Loam as one-ofs.