[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

Abyss just doubled its value. What is going on? Even Italians are going.

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Originally Posted by raudo

Abyss just doubled its value. What is going on? Even Italians are going.

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I fomo'd and picked one up while I still could. Fuck this market

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Originally Posted by H

At least Transmute Artifact is a "somewhat" unique, playable card.

Lifeblood is pretty terrible, especially since Sanctimony exists. Who would spend even $4 on that?

At least, again, Elephant Graveyard and Shahrazad (which also spiked recently) make some sense.

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Shahrazad doesnt make much sense. It's banned in every format and carries significantly less sentimental value than juzam djinn

I feel like eventually these cards are just going to be "collectors" and people will get priced out of the game. The mtg economy will crash soon (within 5 years).

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Originally Posted by apple713

Shahrazad doesnt make much sense. It's banned in every format and carries significantly less sentimental value than juzam djinn

I feel like eventually these cards are just going to be "collectors" and people will get priced out of the game. The mtg economy will crash soon (within 5 years).

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It won't crash but it will become illiquid. Frontier and modern will take over.

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Originally Posted by bruizar

It won't crash but it will become illiquid. Frontier and modern will take over.

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Hah! Frontier is still a thing? :rolleyes:

I agree though, it won't crash (The Abyss doesn't see a whole lot of play...) but will simply be a collector's item that'll be more difficult to buy or sell.

Price spikes on even shitty cards will retain 50-75% of the spike. PNodes will settle about $5-7.

Shared Animosity - https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Mo...nimosity#paper

This is one that Quiet Speculation 100% conjured out of nothing. When I was a 1-month trial user, I posted my speculation of why it would be good with slivers, and QS sent out my comments as their own for the price spike email blast. Card went from $0.50 to $5, then clung to about $4. I'm sure they've repeatedly hyped the card over and over since it spiked to $10->$6, then for some reason it just spiked to $23 today.

Must be that kobold deck....

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Originally Posted by bruizar

I fomo'd and picked one up while I still could. Fuck this market

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MCM has only 4 Engilsh and 6 Italos left. Couple of weeks ago there were hundred.

Usually Nether Void does next what the Abyss first so maybe it is time to pick them up now..

With Old School 93/94 being so popular, do you guys think there will ever be an "old border only" format? Basically the opposite of Modern. Which decks would be Tier 1?

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Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew

Hah! Frontier is still a thing? :rolleyes:

I agree though, it won't crash (The Abyss doesn't see a whole lot of play...) but will simply be a collector's item that'll be more difficult to buy or sell.

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Buy yes, but not sell. A person looking to sell cards can price them at whatever they want. You put an expensive and rare card at 70% its 'value' on eBay and that thing is as good as sold.

I still can't believe I bought a whole playset of MMA Chalice of the Void for $20 just a few years ago.

And I bought several City of Traitors for $30-$60 a pop a few years ago, too.

I thought they'd never go much higher than that...

So all the Reserved List foil cards are basically spiking 1000%?

I should have invested in foil Grim Monoliths!

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Originally Posted by keys

With Old School 93/94 being so popular, do you guys think there will ever be an "old border only" format? Basically the opposite of Modern. Which decks would be Tier 1?

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No because new cards never enter the format.

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Originally Posted by MGB

So all the Reserved List foil cards are basically spiking 1000%?

I should have invested in foil Grim Monoliths!

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They've already fallen again by about 50%, but these cards will always be susceptible to buyouts and spikes since circulation is so small.

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Originally Posted by apple713

No because new cards never enter the format.

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Right. It's basically "Old School Extended".

Point is they will never fall back to the original price, so they already made a profit with the buyout.

They won't have made a profit until they've actually sold whatever they bought.

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Originally Posted by Echelon

They won't have made a profit until they've actually sold whatever they bought.

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Yes! The number of people that do not understand this concept is staggering.

But eventually they will sell everything.. at higher price than buying it.. and that's profit. Even if they won't sell it for 1000$, they might end up selling the foil monoliths for 300$.. if they bought them for 200$ or less a piece that's still pretty good margin..

Do you understand this concept?

It's profit once they've sold everything at a higher price than which they bought it for. Until then they just bought a bunch of cards and that's it. Good luck paying your bills by sending companies foil Grim Monoliths... And would you accept a stack of Squires as change?

I also understand that prices like these can create a bubble, which can pop.

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Originally Posted by Echelon

It's profit once they've sold everything at a higher price than which they bought it for. Until then they just bought a bunch of cards and that's it. Good luck paying your bills by sending companies foil Grim Monoliths... And would you accept a stack of Squires as change?

I also understand that prices like these can create a bubble, which can pop.

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What you described is a healthy market moderated by supply and demand. If leveraged buyouts ever become a thing then we might have a bubble on our hands. But MTG cards still aren't liquid enough to enable this.