Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
You need a token maker to win while humility is on the field. That might be hard in his deck.
Also gbw has sufficient tools with which to beat combo without devoting an entire sideboard to it.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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pfiremc13
You need a token maker to win while humility is on the field. That might be hard in his deck.
Also gbw has sufficient tools with which to beat combo without devoting an entire sideboard to it.
Bitter blossom should join the party !
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
Play bitter blossom, play humility, cut deed?
Also DTB again. Great job guys!
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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Megadeus
Play bitter blossom, play humility, cut deed?
Also DTB again. Great job guys!
Hell yeah!
Also, as far as a token generator goes, just go with Elspeth 1.0. After all, we are a control deck running humility, so generating tokens + not losing life + sending that 1/1 over at your opponent with +3/+3 and Flying is good stuff.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
That's probably the right way to go actually. Because fuck sneak and show.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
when did this get moved to dtb? out of the loop for a while...
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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snorlaxcom
when did this get moved to dtb? out of the loop for a while...
At some point this morning I believe.
What do you guys think is best in BUG Pod for dealing with walkers? My friend just said I should play walkers myself. I understand over loading the board, but sometimes they just have too much removal. You think just pulse is fine?
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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Megadeus
What do you guys think is best in BUG Pod for dealing with walkers? My friend just said I should play walkers myself. I understand over loading the board, but sometimes they just have too much removal. You think just pulse is fine?
Murderous Redcap can go after Lili or Jace depending on loyalty. I think it's Persist makes it best Pod candidate. In more traditional GSZ based lists I like Ifh-Biff Efreet.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
I always thought about the efreet when I played straight GB but never got around to testing him. Walkers have basically been the only things that I have been losing to really the past couple of weeks. Time to play more pulse I suppose
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
Thragtusk is the first thing that comes to mind for a Planeswalker killer, especially Jace 2.0 since his bounce actually allows you replay the Swag again.
Of course, if they have blockers, best bet is either Maelstrom Pulse or Creeping Tar Pit if running blue splash.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
ok every one i have a bigg tourny coming up this sunday i am stuck on what i should play
i have a bug artifacts build that slaver lock people as well as other tricks.
i also have a jund version that has a infinate aggervated assult combo hat goes infinate
amd then i also have my dead eye build that i top eighted last time
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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tons of fun
ok every one i have a bigg tourny coming up this sunday i am stuck on what i should play
i have a bug artifacts build that slaver lock people as well as other tricks.
i also have a jund version that has a infinate aggervated assult combo hat goes infinate
amd then i also have my dead eye build that i top eighted last time
May I ask for lists for each of these and your expected meta?
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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EpicLevelCommoner
May I ask for lists for each of these and your expected meta?
the artifact build
4 veteran explorer
2 baleful strix
2 coiling oricale
1 eternal witness
1 treasure mage
1 glissa, the traitor
1 grand architect
1 phyrexian metamorph
1 solemn simulacrum
1 batterskull
1 thragtusk
2 wurmcoil engine
1 myr battlesphere
2 green sun zenith
2 tezzert the agent of bolas
2 jace the mind sculpter
4 cabal therapy
3 pernicous deeds
1 mindslaver
2 senseis divinning top
2 trading post
1 prototype portal
3 misty rainforest
3 verdant catacombs
3 bayou
3 tropical island
1 undergroundsea
3 forest
3 island
2 swamp
1 phyrexian tower
1 acadmy ruins
the aggravated assault build
4 veterans
2 sakura tribe elder
1 sproutin thrinax
1 eternal witness
1 feirce empath
1 shattergang bros
1 thrun last troll
2 huntmasters of the fells
1 thragtusk
1 thundermaw dragon
1 primevil titan
1 broodmate dragon
4 cabal therapy
3 pernicous deeds
3 aggervated assualt
2 natures will
2 bear umbra
3 greensun zenith
2 sensei's divining top
1 profane command
1 mealstrom pulse
3 bayou \
2 taiaga
1 badlands
3 wooded foothills
3 verdant catacombs
3 mountains
3 forests
2 swamps
1 kessik wolf run
1 pheryxian tower
1 volwrath stronghold
and my third lists the deadeye list i original posted and the sideboards are in work depend on which build i decide to go on
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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tons of fun
the artifact build
4 veteran explorer
2 baleful strix
2 coiling oricale
1 eternal witness
1 treasure mage
1 glissa, the traitor
1 grand architect
1 phyrexian metamorph
1 solemn simulacrum
1 batterskull
1 thragtusk
2 wurmcoil engine
1 myr battlesphere
2 green sun zenith
2 tezzert the agent of bolas
2 jace the mind sculpter
4 cabal therapy
3 pernicous deeds
1 mindslaver
2 senseis divinning top
2 trading post
1 prototype portal
3 misty rainforest
3 verdant catacombs
3 bayou
3 tropical island
1 undergroundsea
3 forest
3 island
2 swamp
1 phyrexian tower
1 acadmy ruins
the aggravated assault build
4 veterans
2 sakura tribe elder
1 sproutin thrinax
1 eternal witness
1 feirce empath
1 shattergang bros
1 thrun last troll
2 huntmasters of the fells
1 thragtusk
1 thundermaw dragon
1 primevil titan
1 broodmate dragon
4 cabal therapy
3 pernicous deeds
3 aggervated assualt
2 natures will
2 bear umbra
3 greensun zenith
2 sensei's divining top
1 profane command
1 mealstrom pulse
3 bayou \
2 taiaga
1 badlands
3 wooded foothills
3 verdant catacombs
3 mountains
3 forests
2 swamps
1 kessik wolf run
1 pheryxian tower
1 volwrath stronghold
and my third lists the deadeye list i original posted and the sideboards are in work depend on which build i decide to go on
Best bet would be Deadeye in my opinion.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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EpicLevelCommoner
Best bet would be Deadeye in my opinion.
yeah i agree but i also wanna wanna take these as well for a spin
the artifact has been test in tournies and i have done good top four locally
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
The simplest Nic Fit decks are always the best. You should look for what makes Nic Fit successful again and extrapolate on that. My guess is that Deed and Lily are great in a TNN meta because of the high presence of midrange decks, Blade Control decks, and decks with 0 basic lands. Cards like Innocent Blood, which are highly synergistic with Explorer and very effective against these strategies should be reconsidered rather than reviving the Nic Fit trend of playing unplayable cards "just cuz were good again". Also, Punishing Fire.
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Qweerios
The simplest Nic Fit decks are always the best. You should look for what makes Nic Fit successful again and extrapolate on that. My guess is that Deed and Lily are great in a TNN meta because of the high presence of midrange decks, Blade Control decks, and decks with 0 basic lands. Cards like Innocent Blood, which are highly synergistic with Explorer and very effective against these strategies should be reconsidered rather than reviving the Nic Fit trend of playing unplayable cards "just cuz were good again". Also, Punishing Fire.
As much as I would love to see Veteran Explorer go lethal with Assault and Nature's Will, I have to agree with Qweerios here: there comes a point where you have to be honest with yourself and say, "This does not work well enough to win."
That's not to say innovation is unwanted: in fact because of Nic Fit's core, it actually allows a ton more innovation than most other decks. Just need to use both empirical and theoretical discretion to make the right decision.
Re: [DTB] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)
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EpicLevelCommoner
As much as I would love to see Veteran Explorer go lethal with Assault and Nature's Will, I have to agree with Qweerios here: there comes a point where you have to be honest with yourself and say, "This does not work well enough to win."
That's not to say innovation is unwanted: in fact because of Nic Fit's core, it actually allows a ton more innovation than most other decks. Just need to use both empirical and theoretical discretion to make the right decision.
yes i agree but i tried it and its does alot the aggervated was for a lil extra the natures will work really well