[Deck] MonoU OmniTell

1. I have played with PoN a lot. I split top4 recently with a list only playing PoN in the main and 1 FoW in the side. This seems perhaps logical as all you want to do is protect your combo but with a lot of the hate being proactive (pikula) then I want the FoW. Typically, I hope to not have to cast FoW at all; however, I will cast FoW on the first threat if I think I need time or on the first piece of disruption and then prefer to use flusterstorm to protect the combo. I play a lot of vintage and nothing wins a counter war quite like flusterstorm. 1b. I played the mirror once and got into a huge counterwar over EtI which he ended by PoN (with 4 lands in play) after I flusterstered his FoW, once the huge stack was resolved I said go and he drew a card... sometimes PoN doesnt get there. Also would you rather have PoN or fluster if fighting against a combo deck? My answer is fluster.
Also if you are all in on flusters maybe consider a split with spell pierce. Hitting lily is pretty sweet. Early game where you are using fluster to combat discard pierce is basically the same card (perhaps baring them having daze)

2) if you want to play leyline then play 4. You want d grid against the esper nemesis decks because often they side out discard for counters and pikula in anticipation of leyine. But against any other discard or hymn deck (or dredge which is a bad matchup) they really shine. that and free wins as was mentioned.

3) if you have to run out a singleton karakas before the turn you go off then you are probably in bad shape but going island island karakas SnT is fine. I have run the MD karakas in 4 tournaments and only once did it negatively affect my mana development. I did have to mulligan once with karakas and city of traitors, that kinda sucked. I wanted 2 after board against thalia decks but didnt want it to take up 2 sideboard slots which also had a part in the md/sb split. In general my thoughts are that the opportunity cost is very low compared to getting hit by a wasteland and it actually precluding you from casting the winning spell in time. I did sideboard it out when i wanted leylines and probes (i.e. storm).

4) probe may just be a personal preference but I have played a lot with it and a lot without it and like I said before if space wasnt so tight I would try to jam more in. Having the info can really be invaluable. (see my above reference to the mirror match, I probed him and knew about his counters before setting up to go off and couldnt have pushed without the info).

5)random thought: I am thinking that sb eladamri's call is currently correct due to the upswing in pikulas. If playing the ants kill you need to resolve EtI. Mage on EtI forces you to remove the mage. having call sidesteps the need to EtI which I feel is an exploitable choke point (against us).

Hey, thanks for the answers!

Just played another game on cockatrice against Patriot and sucked as always, first game he raped me with delver+geist, 2° game i resolved a defense grid with a win next turn, on his turn he played canonist which i cannot counter and which i cannot bounce on his turn due to grid and with the delver he had in 2 turns i was dead... i'm 8-15 against Patriot so far on cockatrice and it's by far my worst matchup, really probably i suck and play badly against this archetipe but i'm losing hope in this deck cause Patriot is everywhere now.

Well, you could just play something different then?

About the bad beats: Many UWR players will likely tend towards TNN rather than Geist these days, which is nice for Combo players, since it is a somewhat slower clock.
If hatebears are problematic, boarding more bounce/etc (Sapphire Charm, Seal of Removal, Æther Spellbomb) rather than Defence Grids might be the way to go. Or even to cut back on counters a bit and board both.

against u/w/r I board in 3 d grid and 2 pongify. I have really liked multiple pongify vs meddeling mage and canonist versus something like slaughter pact. If the decks metagame % increases I will go up to 3 in the board maybe a mix with rapid hybridization in case the trend catches on (and who doesn't like a frog lizard).

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Originally Posted by luudes

against u/w/r I board in 3 d grid and 2 pongify. I have really liked multiple pongify vs meddeling mage and canonist versus something like slaughter pact. If the decks metagame % increases I will go up to 3 in the board maybe a mix with rapid hybridization in case the trend catches on (and who doesn't like a frog lizard).

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What comes out?

From your list, I'm guessing 1 Karakas, 1 Personal Tutor.. But then I'm kinda stuck.

tutor, karakas, 2 probe and a FoW typically.

Is it worth building from Mono blue omnitell to SneakShow? or should I just go straight to SS?

Finished Top 6 after the Tournament with 37 players in the event.

R1 vs Elves - 2-1
R2 vs Affinity - 2-1
R3 vs Jund - 1-2
R4 vs Elves - 2-0
R5 vs Team America - 2-0
R6 vs High Tide - ID

Lost to a teammate in the Quarterfinals using Elves.

Since I'm not playing Leyline of Sanctity in the Sideboard I had troubles making decisions vs Jund. I might revert back to that in the future.

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Originally Posted by Vastros

Is it worth building from Mono blue omnitell to SneakShow? or should I just go straight to SS?

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Testing with and against, I'd say Omni* is more fun. Whatever that's worth.

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Originally Posted by GoblinSettler

Testing with and against, I'd say Omni* is more fun. Whatever that's worth.

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Ive been fighting against sneak and show using my omnitell and Im really having a hard time winning against it. what they do is sandbag a griselbrand and just wait for you to show and tell.
waiting for dream halls is the better alternative but it is too slow for sneakyshow.

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If you are having troubles dealing with a sandbagged griselbrand then cunning wish for trickbind before going off.

knowledgable opponents who drop a grisel would know to trigger another pay 7:draw 7 in response to your cunning wish.

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Hey there,

I've been dabbling with building a version of this deck and I'm stumbling at one particular point: Leyline of Sanctity. More specifically the number of Leylines in the board. I've seen many placing deck lists running three. This completely rubs me the wrong way. To me this seems like a clear cut case of a four-or-zero card. My reasoning is (quite obviously) that this is a card you side in with the express aim to (mulligan if need be to) have it in your opening hand. Four makes this significantly more likely to happen than three. Unlike something like, say, Mindbreak Trap which you also want in your opening hand, the Leyline seems very much a dead card anywhere BUT in your opening hand. If you're still alive by turn three or four and you draw into a Mindbreak Trap that's usually pretty good. The same can't be said for Leyline.

So I'm slightly puzzled, but I might just need to open my eyes. Can someone go over their decisions to have three (or even fewer) rather than the full four?

Thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by nevilshute

Hey there,

I've been dabbling with building a version of this deck and I'm stumbling at one particular point: Leyline of Sanctity. More specifically the number of Leylines in the board. I've seen many placing deck lists running three. This completely rubs me the wrong way. To me this seems like a clear cut case of a four-or-zero card. My reasoning is (quite obviously) that this is a card you side in with the express aim to (mulligan if need be to) have it in your opening hand. Four makes this significantly more likely to happen than three. Unlike something like, say, Mindbreak Trap which you also want in your opening hand, the Leyline seems very much a dead card anywhere BUT in your opening hand. If you're still alive by turn three or four and you draw into a Mindbreak Trap that's usually pretty good. The same can't be said for Leyline.

So I'm slightly puzzled, but I might just need to open my eyes. Can someone go over their decisions to have three (or even fewer) rather than the full four?

Thanks! :)

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Look at the main board. Quite a few people run a 1/3 split.
Mainly its so you can fit in an extra SB slot. If its not needed in a match-up (DnT is an example in my mind), then its a free slot to side in what you want.

"knowledgable opponents who drop a grisel would know to trigger another pay 7:draw 7 in response to your cunning wish."

Which is why I stated you should wish before trying to go off.

I'm actually going to drop the leylines and test out a mix of divert/ misdirectiono and maybe spell snare.
Hate is getting proactive and spell snare gets most everything that really throws a wrench in the game plan. Plus it can be used in other matchups.

In what split?

I'm thinking about something like this:

3x Spell snare, 1x Misdirection

3x Spell Pierce, 1x Misdirection

Wouldn't Spell pierce be better than snare (countering the planeswalkers - Liliana, Jace)? :)

I don't want to jam three more counterspells so I would try 2 spell snare max. You are correct about hitting walkers with pierce but I am much more concerned with meddling mage, hymn, thalia, canonist, etc. Also gets SFM if they have no pressure and you want to neuter their clock. Also might be marginally better than pierce vs an engine deck like storm (they can often generate enough mana to ignore pierce)
I'm going to try divert before misdirection. In my practice I tend to have an extra mana more often than an extra card when going off. This weekend I'm gonna try a 2 and 2 split I think.

Great so tell us later what the results are :). About thalia&canonist - I suppose snare won't be that good (vial plus cavern of souls) but we shall see :) But why I'm thinking about the snare is that it would be great against counterbalance which gives me a hard time every time I'm facing miracles, how do you fight this one? ;/