[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

still work in progress as you can see... i'm at half of it probably xD... (needs 4 deathrite, 2 divert, foil fetches and upgrade on brainstorms and bolts). I like these gitaxian more than others, the last stifle is arriving in the mail, and i'm not going to buy foil wastelands cause i love these altered ones to much.

http://i.imgur.com/EsnKDrp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5sC3J3i.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l8H7oOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ESPQqAq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5IoDbhU.jpg


and this is a pic of my full altered canadian, before i sell a big part of it to a friend

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...hy-d5vdug6.png

I like it, Italian isn't something you see people do intentionally very often.

Now that I've waited a few pages, here is what I got in the mail last week

http://i.imgur.com/oWtpvGUl.jpg?1

And got this assembled last week.

http://i.imgur.com/Xu3Kmnbl.jpg

If you follow me on twitter, you know this thing caused me a lot of stress. All peachy now.

Okay guys, incoming challenge.
Who is the first to post a Playset (or more :D) of the Judge Foil Forces

and a recent upgrade for modern tron:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140508/xnr9phhq.jpg
http://s7.directupload.net/images/14...p/xnr9phhq.jpg

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Originally Posted by r3dd09

Now that I've waited a few pages, here is what I got in the mail last week

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Beautiful German fetches!

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Originally Posted by blackberrybold

Okay guys, incoming challenge.
Who is the first to post a Playset (or more :D) of the Judge Foil Forces

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My bet would be Smallfish.

Judge foil fows are not pimp because they are Judge foils. A true pimp knows this and would still go with original art over Judge foils.
Judge foils are automatically worse than original art foils (if exist). If original art foils were never made, then you go with original art non foil or alpha/beta if possible.
Judge foils are basically the lowest possible pimp right after white bordered cards and FTV. I would place FNM stamped foils equivalent to Judge foils in terms of pimpness.

I have setup a strawpoll to let people rate judge foils in terms of pimpness:
http://strawpoll.me/1657757

Sure, but if someones rule is: Foil the deck out, then Judge foil is their only option

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Originally Posted by sauce

Judge foil fows are not pimp because they are Judge foils. A true pimp knows this and would still go with original art over Judge foils.
Judge foils are automatically worse than original art foils (if exist). If original art foils were never made, then you go with original art non foil or alpha/beta if possible.
Judge foils are basically the lowest possible pimp right after white bordered cards and FTV. I would place FNM stamped foils equivalent to Judge foils in terms of pimpness.

I have setup a strawpoll to let people rate judge foils in terms of pimpness:
http://strawpoll.me/1657757

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This poll is great. 3/4 votes are for your poll being bad. The trolls never take a day off!

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

Sure, but if someones rule is: Foil the deck out, then Judge foil is their only option

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And here we are! The true reason why these will get scooped up, regardless of how gross the art is or how staunchly you hold on to your weird Beta-only preferences. The quest for full foil-dom can take over your mind, soul, and wallet. It's a mythical beast that must be captured and tamed and RIDDEN INTO VICTORIOUS BATTLE. And knowing that you will never, ever be able to finish your deck because of that one card is just the most annoying feeling ever.

If you've never fanned out your foil deck only to hear some cardtard exclaim "Oh hey! Where are your foil dual lands?! LOLOLOL!" then you just might not be able to relate. THE FOILING QUEST MUST BE COMPLETED. AT ALL COSTS. This desire is so strong, and this sickness so powerful, that YES. YES. We will even fuck with Judge foils. Or, god forbid, the dreaded and shameful FNM foil...

ENTER JUDGE FOIL FOWs. The saving grace of all those sadomasochistic :u: mages who have their hearts set on pimping out anything involving blue fetches and counterspells.

The straw poll results are what I expected with having that fourth option haha.

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Originally Posted by danyul

And here we are! The true reason why these will get scooped up, regardless of how gross the art is or how staunchly you hold on to your weird Beta-only preferences. The quest for full foil-dom can take over your mind, soul, and wallet. It's a mythical beast that must be captured and tamed and RIDDEN INTO VICTORIOUS BATTLE. And knowing that you will never, ever be able to finish your deck because of that one card is just the most annoying feeling ever.

If you've never fanned out your foil deck only to hear some cardtard exclaim "Oh hey! Where are your foil dual lands?! LOLOLOL!" then you just might not be able to relate. THE FOILING QUEST MUST BE COMPLETED. AT ALL COSTS. This desire is so strong, and this sickness so powerful, that YES. YES. We will even fuck with Judge foils. Or, god forbid, the dreaded and shameful FNM foil...

ENTER JUDGE FOIL FOWs. The saving grace of all those sadomasochistic :u: mages who have their hearts set on pimping out anything involving blue fetches and counterspells.

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This is so exactly perfectly written.

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Originally Posted by sauce

Judge foil fows are not pimp because they are Judge foils. A true pimp knows this and would still go with original art over Judge foils.
Judge foils are automatically worse than original art foils (if exist). If original art foils were never made, then you go with original art non foil or alpha/beta if possible.
Judge foils are basically the lowest possible pimp right after white bordered cards and FTV. I would place FNM stamped foils equivalent to Judge foils in terms of pimpness.

I have setup a strawpoll to let people rate judge foils in terms of pimpness:
http://strawpoll.me/1657757

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That is possibly the most biased questionnaire I've ever seen.

You categorized all non-judge-foil foils and A/B together? Lmao.

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Originally Posted by Quasim0ff

That is possibly the most biased questionnaire I've ever seen.

You categorized all non-judge-foil foils and A/B together? Lmao.

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If the bias is that Judge foil is not as pimp as A/B and non-judge-foils, then yeah?

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Originally Posted by Whippoorwill

Beautiful German fetches!



My bet would be Smallfish.

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And I'd put money on markers.

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So much talk about a card that's not even that rare.

First to post a playset of:
Alpha fungusaur
Alpha animate wall

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Originally Posted by pochy

and this is a pic of my full altered canadian, before i sell a big part of it to a friend

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...hy-d5vdug6.png

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The placeholder cards are adorable!

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Originally Posted by sauce

If the bias is that Judge foil is not as pimp as A/B and non-judge-foils, then yeah?

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Lmao, you really got no clue what you're talking about, do you?

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Originally Posted by sauce

Judge foil fows are not pimp because they are Judge foils. A true pimp knows this and would still go with original art over Judge foils.
Judge foils are automatically worse than original art foils (if exist). If original art foils were never made, then you go with original art non foil or alpha/beta if possible.
Judge foils are basically the lowest possible pimp right after white bordered cards and FTV. I would place FNM stamped foils equivalent to Judge foils in terms of pimpness.

I have setup a strawpoll to let people rate judge foils in terms of pimpness:
http://strawpoll.me/1657757

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Assuming you are referring to Wasteland, Goblin Piledriver, Dark Ritual, Sinkhole, and Imperial Recruiters? Those are some crap, but Judge Cradle/Intuition > Korean.

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Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee

And I'd put money on markers.

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Thanks but I doubt that I can beat the people here. I might have 1 (or 4) at some stage but buying Judges right after release is a bad move in my experience.

All of them look nice and will at some stage be at my home.

Here are my current Judge cards (both signed and unsigned):

http://i.imgur.com/cy1jErg.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/5RLlB3c.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/WdvjvB9.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/UD1f9jd.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/Ia2XL9Y.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/wXDHOTx.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/9zzNPj6.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/IcYW558.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/7AFjqIk.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/79vMEtZ.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/2XPZ5wh.jpg?1

Nothing too fancy and a lot of cards could use a sig but since it's only a side project to get the promos signed (you surely understand)...

1/2

and here is the rest:

http://i.imgur.com/92dmpxD.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/TaWJ0Pw.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/fvxnbHY.jpg?1

The Karmic Guides are currently on their way to get signed...

Erica Yang's signature is awesome, I need to find a way to get mine signed.

The MPR wasteland is legit. http://magiccards.info/mprp/en/1.html
So is the FNM swords to plowshares. http://magiccards.info/fnmp/en/12.html

Anything that has the "DCI" foil stamp or "FNM" foil stamp is a tier below in pimpness.
FTV foils are even lower than those.

Noble hierarch http://magiccards.info/cfx/en/87.html is more pimp than http://magiccards.info/jr/en/66.html because of the ugly judge set symbol.
The borders on the judge foil Noble hierarch is better than the Conflux foil, but the set symbol makes it less pimp.
Same thing for Bob and SoFI. Borders infinitely better, set symbol infinitely worse.
Original foil > Judge foil.

Now, things like Karakas and Show & Tell, which had no original foil. Those I prefer the original non foil, because the foil versions are hideous with a huge swoosh stamp and set symbol.
Just unplayable imo.

Foils look like dogshit poke-duelmasters cards.
Judge foils look like dogshit poke-yu-ghi-oh cards, the worst being the original art in a new border with the foil bukkake process slapped on.
FNM foils are just as bad but they reflect the fact that you may go to FNM which makes you a barnacle.

The quest for all foil is fruitless anyway until the reserved list gets zapped. At some point your deck whose only non-foils are duals will be a steaming pile of marked.

Beta / Korean / Russian / German Signed > All

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Originally Posted by snorlaxcom

Assuming you are referring to Wasteland, Goblin Piledriver, Dark Ritual, Sinkhole, and Imperial Recruiters? Those are some crap, but Judge Cradle/Intuition > Korean.

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Thats like, your opinion, maaaannnn!

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Originally Posted by Koby

Thats like, your opinion, maaaannnn!

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I would hope eveyone is stating thier opinion without writing imho every post.

My foil deck with 24 non-foil/Beta stacks flat as fuck. No curling at all whatsoever, zero issues.

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Originally Posted by sauce

The MPR wasteland is legit. http://magiccards.info/mprp/en/1.html
So is the FNM swords to plowshares. http://magiccards.info/fnmp/en/12.html

Anything that has the "DCI" foil stamp or "FNM" foil stamp is a tier below in pimpness.
FTV foils are even lower than those.

Noble hierarch http://magiccards.info/cfx/en/87.html is more pimp than http://magiccards.info/jr/en/66.html because of the ugly judge set symbol.
The borders on the judge foil Noble hierarch is better than the Conflux foil, but the set symbol makes it less pimp.
Same thing for Bob and SoFI. Borders infinitely better, set symbol infinitely worse.
Original foil > Judge foil.

Now, things like Karakas and Show & Tell, which had no original foil. Those I prefer the original non foil, because the foil versions are hideous with a huge swoosh stamp and set symbol.
Just unplayable imo.

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If I ever the get the money, I will play Sneak and Show with "ugly", "Yugioh-esque" foils just to troll all of you.

And it will be great :tongue:

My Death and Taxes deck only has 4 non foils in the 75, and they are Karakas, the shooting star in the text box is horrible and I refuse to acquire cards that have it (unless I get an excellent deal on it for flipping purposes). Judge Promos that use the old frame, such as Hierarch, SoLaS, and SoFI are awesome. I double sleeve my decks and I've never had any issue with either foils, or non foils be marked because of curving, or for anything else for that matter.

My opinion is get things as foil as possible without making it fugly (No FNM stamps, no FTV, no shooting stars across the entire text box).
I use the original foil printing, and on special cases I may use a judge instead of the original foil printing (Like Hierarch, SolaS, SoFI, and soon to be SoFF)
I like my decks to use UNhinged Foil basics, delving into Foil Zendikar basics for EDH
When the foiling options have been eliminated I go for original printing.
I dislike foreign, so everything must be English.

(Cyrillic is an awesome looking language though, so I collect whatever foil Russian things I can get at bulk foil rates)

Everyone has their own tastes, above is mine. I don't care if you despise my choices or absolutely love them, but they are my choices, let the choices of others be left alone...
Though with that said, there are some tastes that I dislike (foreign, but I respect it, just don't want it for myself), but I don't ridicule anyone for having tastes that differ from mine.

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Originally Posted by sauce

The MPR wasteland is legit. http://magiccards.info/mprp/en/1.html
So is the FNM swords to plowshares. http://magiccards.info/fnmp/en/12.html

Anything that has the "DCI" foil stamp or "FNM" foil stamp is a tier below in pimpness.
FTV foils are even lower than those.

Noble hierarch http://magiccards.info/cfx/en/87.html is more pimp than http://magiccards.info/jr/en/66.html because of the ugly judge set symbol.
The borders on the judge foil Noble hierarch is better than the Conflux foil, but the set symbol makes it less pimp.
Same thing for Bob and SoFI. Borders infinitely better, set symbol infinitely worse.
Original foil > Judge foil.

Now, things like Karakas and Show & Tell, which had no original foil. Those I prefer the original non foil, because the foil versions are hideous with a huge swoosh stamp and set symbol.
Just unplayable imo.

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"Pimp" is subjective. I prefer old frame over new frame even if it's a Judge promo, like Crucible of Worlds. Mainly because "modern" foils aren't that differentiable from non-foils as in the case of old cards (where's the star?!). To be pimp, a card has to be easily differentiable from more common versions.

In the case of Force of Will, there isn't even an Asian version, so I'll take the new foil one. It gets a bit more complicated to me when I have to choose between original Japanese/Korean and a later foil version (that's the case for Wasteland, Intuition, Gaea's Cradle, etc.)

Most "pimp" is not subjective. What people like is subjective. There is a level of "pimp" that is/can be agreed on by majority of players.

It's like saying Ferrari is subjectively (vs objectively) more "pimp" than a Nissan 350Z. It is not. It is in fact objectively more "pimp".
Just like with cars, in magic, there is a certain level of PRESTIGE or what some may call "pimp". While you can only afford some level of "pimp", you may have a bias towards it since its all you can afford.
A lot of people fall into this type of thinking. "What I can afford is prettiest TO ME". They tend to ignore the other (more pimp) options because they cant afford them.
This leads to the thinking that "pimp" is subjective.

Here is a guide that I think a lot of people can agree with.

Basics (in level of prestige):
Summer > Guru > Arabian Nights Mountains > Foil Unhinged > Beta > Apac/Euro/etc. > FBB > MPR > Foil Zendikar > etc.

Duals:
Summer (mostly unattainable but here as a placeholder) > Beta > Alpha > FBB > Unlimited > Revised

Fetchlands:
Original Onslaught Foil > Zendikar Foil > Original Onslaught > Original Zendikar > Judge Foil

All other cards:
Beta/Alpha (if available) > Original art black border (ie: Kird Ape) / Foreign version (korean, etc) > Original Foil (STP/Wasteland) All languages > Original non foil black border (Karakas, Dreadnought, Show & Tell) > Judge foil > FTV foil> White border

Unsigned vs Signed card
This one is the only truly subjective category IMO. Some dealers do not like them, some do like them. Some people consider signed cards "destroyed" and/or "ugly". Others covet them.
I will not rate them because of that.
Same with altered cards.

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Added FTV foils

Eh, didn't even consider summer basics -- there are a lot of options for basics out there, unlike duals. I'd only stick with summer throughout if it were for purely value-related reasons, and even then that applies mainly for duals, because there are more expensive versions of most other staples.

So, yeah. It's subjective.

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Originally Posted by sauce

Most "pimp" is not subjective. What people like is subjective. There is a level of "pimp" that is/can be agreed on by majority of players.

It's like saying Ferrari is subjectively (vs objectively) more "pimp" than a Nissan 350Z. It is not. It is in fact objectively more "pimp".
Just like with cars, in magic, there is a certain level of PRESTIGE or what some may call "pimp". While you can only afford some level of "pimp", you may have a bias towards it since its all you can afford.
A lot of people fall into this type of thinking. "What I can afford is prettiest TO ME". They tend to ignore the other (more pimp) options because they cant afford them.
This leads to the thinking that "pimp" is subjective.

Here is a guide that I think a lot of people can agree with.

Basics (in level of prestige):
Summer > Guru > Arabian Nights Mountains > Foil Unhinged > Beta > Apac/Euro/etc. > FBB > MPR > Foil Zendikar > etc.

Duals:
Summer (mostly unattainable but here as a placeholder) > Beta > Alpha > FBB > Unlimited > Revised

Fetchlands:
Original Onslaught Foil > Zendikar Foil > Original Onslaught > Original Zendikar > Judge Foil

All other cards:
Beta/Alpha (if available) > Original art black border (ie: Kird Ape) / Foreign version (korean, etc) > Original Foil (STP/Wasteland) All languages > Original non foil black border (Karakas, Dreadnought, Show & Tell) > Judge foil > FTV foil> White border

Unsigned vs Signed card
This one is the only truly subjective category IMO. Some dealers do not like them, some do like them. Some people consider signed cards "destroyed" and/or "ugly". Others covet them.
I will not rate them because of that.
Same with altered cards.

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Added FTV foils

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Nice summary of pimp. You could further elaborate on your treatise on pimp by including foreign but it gets murky. For example

Original Onslaught Foil > Zendikar Foil > Original Onslaught > Original Zendikar > Judge Foil

How pimp is a German Foil Polluted Delta to a German person? Maybe the majority of Germans consider English or Japanese more pimp. But to a sub set of 'mericans the German Delta kills it and is worth 150% of an English one.

One other pimp aspect is ... can you just fire up a website and immediately buy it. E.g. an English Foil Dark Confidant might be pimp, but I can go buy 4 in the time it took me to post this from 15 different vendors. But finding Russian ones and getting them signed by Bob Maher is much harder, and the resultant product whilst desirable to less total people is basically unique and so to the people who do value it - the spike is higher.

Then there is the aesthetic of foil, you either like it or you hate it. I personally hate it, maybe because I started earlier ... they just don't look or feel like Magic cards to me. Same with the new border, but that unfortunately can't helped.

I've hoarded up a good amount of german foil Zen basics, which are very high on the pimp scale for me -- but english foil Zen basics don't rate very highly for me.

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

Sure, but if someones rule is: Foil the deck out, then Judge foil is their only option

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This is what I adhere to, I much prefer the original art but only if I can get it in foil, otherwise foil>non foil. I will be happy to own of those fows as I have been waiting on fow foils for infinity years, so I will suck up the art being less then ideal.

I prefer Alpha basic lands over any other version. And obviously Alpha over Beta in any other case. Alpha not only is rarer but it's the original.

In general I prefer the first printed version. In Japanese if it exists, and foil if it exists. There are some exceptions, like Brainstorm. I prefer foil Japanese over Ice Age. And Force of Will probably will be another exception. When Mana Drain gets its foil promo (I bet they will release it, as there's also a new art for it on MTGO), I'll still prefer my English Mana Drains.

I really don't get how people wants something like an "ugly" new art new frame foil Demonic Tutor over an Alpha one.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...monicTutor.jpg

http://hipstersofthecoast.files.word...5465.jpg?w=476

One card defines how awesome black is in Magic: The Gathering, and was exactly how the game's creator envisioned things. The other looks like the CGI box art to a Diablo Expansion.

I like both, but in different ways.

I hate the old frame in foil, so if I want a deck foiled, I want it new boarders. If it's non-foil, I want it to be Alpha/Beta.

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Originally Posted by sauce

Most "pimp" is not subjective. What people like is subjective. There is a level of "pimp" that is/can be agreed on by majority of players.

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Thank you, professor! But please, there must be many more of what you may learn us on what is pimp.... what is pimp, baybee don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no moar. What is pimp, baybee don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no moar, wow-uh-wow-uh-wow-uh-uh-yeah, yea-yea-yeah, wow-wow, what is pimp.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/adujepes.jpg

Came in the mail today.

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Enough fighting about cards. How about play mats. I got some new ones because the last 3 sets have had barely any magic cards with text on them.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...o/IMAG1440.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...o/IMAG1441.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...o/IMAG1442.jpg

Also ... I randomly got this done @ ECCC ... I had put my stuff to get signed in it and realized Tedin and Hudson were there, so here's a pimp box

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...o/IMAG1443.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...o/IMAG1444.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...o/IMAG1445.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...o/IMAG1446.jpg

Doom approves.

The "Let off some steam, Bennett." scene would've been awesome too.