Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Don't judge me quite yet, still testing to the decklist that I like. Since I still run burning wish and Rite of Flame I still feel like this is closer to TES than ANT (Probably closest to TnT, but meh).
Anyways, would love feedback and thoughts on the decklist:
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Lands (12)
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
Black (18)
1 AD Nauseam
2 Cabal Ritual
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
3 Duress
3 Infernal Tutor (1 Sideboard Currently)
1 Tendrils of Agony
Red (8)
3 Burning Wish
1 Past in Flames
4 Rite of Flame
Blue (12)
4 Brainstorm
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
Artifacts (10)
2 Chrome Mox
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
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Also, I currently have these cards listed in my possible sideboard and tweak it according to the meta of the tournament. Let me know if I'm missing any cards that would ever be side boarded:
4 Abrupt Decay
1 Carpet of Flowers
2 Chain of Vapor
2 Dread of Night
1 Empty the Warrens
2 Flusterstorm
1 Grapeshot
1 Infernal Tutor
2 Massacre
1 Past in Flames
3 Pyroblast
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Telemin Performance
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Thoughtseize
1 Tropical Island
1 Void Snare
3 Xantid Swarm
Thoughts:
* I've loved PiF in the 60. I've won many games after important spells are countered by draining their hand and storming through the graveyard.
* At 2 Mox, I've never had multiples and I've never been sad to see it. I like the count of 2.
* I had 2 VIslands originally, but found that there were several games where I was wanting black and drew both Islands and lacked black. Never had an issue with 6ish+ red sources to cast my spells.
STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. Like I said, would love some feedback. (:
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
A very similar list of TES has won SCG Dallas. You might want to check it out. To me, the main ETW is still better than PiF, this because it allows us to have more turn one/two explosive hands.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
JPoJohnson
Don't judge me quite yet, still testing to the decklist that I like. Since I still run burning wish and Rite of Flame I still feel like this is closer to TES than ANT (Probably closest to TnT, but meh).
Anyways, would love feedback and thoughts on the decklist:
Thoughts:
* I've loved PiF in the 60. I've won many games after important spells are countered by draining their hand and storming through the graveyard.
* At 2 Mox, I've never had multiples and I've never been sad to see it. I like the count of 2.
* I had 2 VIslands originally, but found that there were several games where I was wanting black and drew both Islands and lacked black. Never had an issue with 6ish+ red sources to cast my spells.
STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. Like I said, would love some feedback. (:
I see what you are trying to do here, but don't see a reason to cut down actual fast business for game 1s like Burning Wishes for a long term plan of MB PIF/ToA. You don't run ToA in the SB anymore from what I have read and with your tutor configuration you suffer the same problems ANT has with their ANs to get access to ToA which are limited to flipping ToA itself or at least one remaining LED.
Bold statement: I don't think you need the PIF plan in game 1s ever. If I however consider the Goblin plan insufficient for postboard and really want the ANT capabilities, I board out EtW and one of my 4 MB Tutors and put in PIF + ToA, resulting into a total of 7 virtual Infernal Tutors to do the PIF loop without touching my MB configuration at all. But that's just me :)
The bigger issue that gives me headaches is that Miracles play more and more hatebears like Canonist/Meddling Mage and pair these with Wastelands.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
I do have a ToA and PiF in the sideboard, I mistakenly left them off.
I hadn't seen Miracles run Wasteland, although I've seen a few with hatebears.... I'll have to look for those lists. I tried a swamp in there instead of Badlands and had two VIslands with two Seas. Fortunately I don't have many wasteland/moon decks in my area, but I'll definitely keep that in consideration should I attend a larger event.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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JPoJohnson
I do have a ToA and PiF in the sideboard, I mistakenly left them off.
I hadn't seen Miracles run Wasteland, although I've seen a few with hatebears.... I'll have to look for those lists. I tried a swamp in there instead of Badlands and had two VIslands with two Seas. Fortunately I don't have many wasteland/moon decks in my area, but I'll definitely keep that in consideration should I attend a larger event.
Wastelands appeared as Boseijus became more popular in OmniTells and those maybe mark a future problem for running only a single green Source for casting Decays making me Ponder about a 2/2/2 split of duals in the 75 at the given time.
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Lemnear
Wastelands appeared as Boseijus became more popular in OmniTells and those maybe mark a future problem for running only a single green Source for casting Decays making me Ponder about a 2/2/2 split of duals in the 75 at the given time.
Thats already a problem.
Had to slowroll lots of lands vs miracles testing with ant.
Its quite a problem that this happens... Hope dig is banned soon and we get to real life again.
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Togores
Thats already a problem.
Had to slowroll lots of lands vs miracles testing with ant.
Its quite a problem that this happens... Hope dig is banned soon and we get to real life again.
so moving from Miracles & OmniTell to Miracles and SneakShow again?
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Lemnear
so moving from Miracles & OmniTell to Miracles and SneakShow again?
Prefer it.
Less mages and cannonists
Les dig. When that card resolves is like cheating. Less slow control decks with wasteland. Less flusterstorm.
Seems legit.
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At least with Sneak and Show, D&T is a deck. Which is nice, because I enjoy free wins.
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Video features/recordings
Earlier in the ANT thread, Jona and I have started recording sessions with Grinding Station, since it's sort of an off-beat variant of ANT. Since TES doesn't have a lot of MTGO presence, and a dearth of video content other than feature matches, I think it might be good to try and have some dual-commentated matches to highlight the finesse and the thought process of TES. Would any experienced players be interested in Skyping in with me and running TES through some dailies and would there be interest in content like that?
Re: Video features/recordings
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wonderPreaux
Earlier in the ANT thread, Jona and I have started recording sessions with Grinding Station, since it's sort of an off-beat variant of ANT. Since TES doesn't have a lot of MTGO presence, and a dearth of video content other than feature matches, I think it might be good to try and have some dual-commentated matches to highlight the finesse and the thought process of TES. Would any experienced players be interested in Skyping in with me and running TES through some dailies and would there be interest in content like that?
I can do. I tune in at times anyways, so it's not different from typing in the chat anyways. Only thing to mind for scheduling (don't know MTGO Legacy daily times anyways) is that I'm off for a wedding the upcoming weekend and will not return before monday evening
edit: maybe we can even gather a roundtable for the rounds with several peeps in the Skype-conference
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I wouldn't mind participating in a Skype round table. It'd be rad to have some more tenured players in the chat as well, like Lem here.
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ManCharm
I wouldn't mind participating in a Skype round table. It'd be rad to have some more tenured players in the chat as well, like Lem here.
This needs to happen
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Back from the wedding. Feel free to hit me via PM, Facebook or twitter for schedule
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Don't forget to post the schedule here and in the FB group.
I'd like to join in, even though I haven't touched TES in four months. I might be able to add something here and there.
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The format is damn blue-centric atm that I really consider picking up Mainboard Carpet of Flowers...
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Lemnear
The format is damn blue-centric atm that I really consider picking up Mainboard Carpet of Flowers...
I get the thought process, but why would they be any better than Rain of Filth or Cabal Ritual?
EDIT: It would certainly help with the tempo matchups. Cutting some number of Moxen for Carpets and a Tropical over the Swamp (Switching Mires to Mistys).
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Bryant Cook
I get the thought process, but why would they be any better than Rain of Filth or Cabal Ritual?
possibly permanent mana to work with and also more flexible in colors. The idea behind the three cards is a similar one with Carpet being better in multiples than Rain
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The problem that I see with this is that it goes against the TES philosophy of speed.