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@Noloam: Since you keep 5-0ing, I'm curious about your match-ups for analysis. It would be interesting to see if you ran just into good match-ups where the GW build would be just as good (if not better) or if there are matches where the colorless build is clearly superior (and if so, finding out what's the reason for that is important).
most of my 5-0 are based on playing one time at least against ANT. i have a anti storm package, that is just wrecking to them. so that is a bye. it seems like a always run into: 1 storm, 1 or 2 miracles, 1 delver, 2 randoms. if i run into 2 times shardless, there is a great chance i go 4-1 or 3-2 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
i win 90% of my miracle matches. Ratchet bomb is just bonkers against all hate. 50/50 of the U/R matches. 40/60 of the team america matches (in their favour). and i lose a lot against esper stoneblade and BUG shardless. esper stoneblade is just not even funny
Well, I just lost a match vs Esper because I misplayed G1 and should have killed the SFM instead of the Batterskull token. The 5/6 took over the game. Should have been a clean 2-0 instead, but I'm an idiot. :rolleyes: The white build should still be able to put a better fight due to Displacer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
Your claims about Miracles are interesting. I'm currently 63,2% vs Miracles. Pre-board is pretty favorable and I win most of the times. The real trouble comes when they board in their Mentors, Wear/Tears and Blood Moon. What's your boarding strategy? Maybe I should bring in Thorn over World Breaker, anti-synergy with All is Dust be damned.
yes you bet your boots that GW is better vs all blade builds. you dont play thorns main. thats the whole difference vs mirracles. i board in all 4 extra disco balls postboard. Miracles then is just a clunky sitting duck, activating top, while getting smashes in the meanwhile. snapcaster + plow for 5 mana wont cut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
my plan is just play 1 dude and attack with it untill it gets removed. never overextend. board out 1 city of traiters, 3 matter reshapers, 1 endbringer, 1 dismember, 1 jitte and the 2 simian spirit guides. bring in 1 all is dust , 2 needles, 2 ratchet bomb, 2 thorn, 2 sphere.
Blade is a dance on the razor's edge. Next round was vs Bant Blade that was lost because I drew my 7th mana land one turn too late for All is Dust in G3. But it's those little things that separate a 5-0 from a mediocre 3-2. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
Obviously your deck is better vs Miracles with all those board cards. Needle on SDT is great (when it doesn't clash with Chalice). I'm not really sold on Sphere, though, as it hindered my quite a bit as well when I playtested it.
As for the Shardless match, note that my current GW build was constructed with Shardless in mind after getting horribly destroyed before. And it succeeded quite well in turning around the match-up, considering I'm currently 8-2 against them in matches, and those losses were mainly based on shitty variance. I would definitely try to drop the Faerie for a 3rd All is Dust. You're gonna need it. The lack of spot removal is also going to hurt you in that match. Is Pithing Needle really that much better overall than Warping Wail, which also has applications in the Miracle match-up and vs combo? Although I can see the nonbo with the "disco plan".
yes sphere does hinder yourself. but without a turn 1 or 2 turn 2 drop against ANT, you are basically dead. that is a insane record against shardless. what do you board in and out? yeah perhaps i do need to cut the faerie. its more an emotional call, because i get turn 1 entombed ,turn 2 reanimated 10/10 times. i also like it vs lands, because i already cutted my wastelands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
i board in needle against ALL wasteland decks. its also great vs sneaky show and belcher. so there is no way im gonna cut those, as long as i play wastelandless eldrazi. and yes the disco plan and the wails are kinda a nonbo, that why i cut 1 or 2 wails in the reanimate match also. i dont like the synergy with eye of ugin and the disco balls
Finished my League run 3-2, matches being ANT (win), Esper & Bant Blade (loses), Miraces (win) and Esper Blade (win). 3 Blade decks out of 5 matches is a tad bit too much for my taste.
You're worried about Storm, out of all things, one of our best match-ups? :eyebrow: I roflstomped them even without any discoball in my 75. Due to Displacer and Karakas, I'm also less worried about Reanimator. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
I can see Sphere being good vs Shardless. The plan that turned out to work best is balls-to-the-walls aggro, with All is Dust back-up for the finishing touch. I board out Chalices (not that hot), Jitte and Displacers (not many good targets here, plus you deprive them of good AD targets this way). Maybe you should bring in Leyline instead to slow them down further, but I'm on the fence regarding it due to potential dead draws later on. Pithing Needle looks like a durdle card that double as AD target, and after trying all kinds of things against Shardless, you don't want durdle (even if it looks good on the paper), you want to smash their face in.
well thats is quite lucky i guess. Because only chalice and thought knots wont always do the trick. they can turn 1 discard, turn 2 go off quite easily. i played storm for 3 years in a row. yes the white build is great vs reanimate ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
yes i play board in sphere on the play. it eats a fow a lot of times, which is great. needle is not otimal vs shardless i agree. But it can also catch a jace or liliana. yes i will try the leylines for sure the next time. i do like jitte in that match. it gets rid of the stupid strixes
i will board -2 thorn -4 chalice + 4 leyline +2 all is dust
What kind of list do you run?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
You also have Warping Wail and post-board Leyline. It's not that tragic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
As for Shardless, you have Smashers and Factories to deal with PWs.
The problem with Jitte is that you need to charge it first before it can kill a Strix. And more often than not, you have to run a creature into Strix to charge it, defeating the purpose. Getting your Jitte killed while expecting to get charge counters on it also spells trouble.
@Zombie: I linked the list last page.
You should just put a link to your mtggoldfish archive in your signature. Maybe people stop asking then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
But that would also tempt people more often to look up my decklist when I'm playing against them. Otherwise, I would have done that already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
For what it's worth I've been helping a friend test stompy decks by playing Miracles and Thorns have been really effective, quite surprisingly so. He's on Goblin Stompy, but I think the same logic will work here.
What exactly are the AID mainly for? D&T I assume. But are there any matchups you like them in that you think I might be surprised?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Do you bring some number in vs Miracles?
Been playing your list as the gauntelt in preparation for Columbus, but I feel like there is lack of Blood Moon answers (Ratchet bomb or other). Is this a conscious decision because you don't expect blood moons or you just don't see them as a big deal?
It's a conscious decision. Ratchet Bomb is a terrible answer to Blood Moon as it takes 4 (!) turns of durdling before doing anything of relevance. If you have a better solution to Blood Moon that isn't extremely narrow, I'm all ears, as SB slots are precious.Quote:
Originally Posted by toor
All is Dust is for control/midrange match-ups.
noloam's list got featured on the mothership today.
Wow, absolute honor it must be for him! Congrats noloam!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Grats noloam on having your list featured. Anyway, what is your gameplan vs delvers? The matchup feels extremely 50/50 to me. If we can land a t1 chalice, we can win unless they blind flip their delvers t1 and we dont draw removal in time. Is your gameplan similar to barooks and to just rush them down as hard as possible? In that case do you ignore the flipped delver as long as possible? Seeing your results, I was wondering what you brought in from the side to deal with them besides ratchet bomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
lel LSV used my bad list. my current list runs the 4 eyes
my gameplan is to board out 2 thorn and bring in 2 pithing needles. thats it. BUG delver is bad, the rest is Ok
btw ratchet bomb is perfect vs miracles. ever played against back to basics? its an absolute horror. you can sneak the rachet bomb in and you have the time to tick it up. no problem
You bring in Needle against Delver while boarding out Thorn? :eyebrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
@toor: Stuff like this is the reason to run All is Dust. It's your 7-mana "I win"-button.
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Originally Posted by Barook
yup. thorn buys you one turn, while getting an delver swing or shaman drain in the meanwhile. that certainly is not impressive. if you get wastelanded while having a thorn i play, you really look silly. if they cant wasteland, you are just a better aggro deck. especially with the 4 caverns
rachet bomb is just an all star in a lot of matches. elves, storm, belcher etc
how whould your deck solve the back to basics problem, after you board gets plowed our terminused?