Sup dude! I was your ANT opponent Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
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Sup dude! I was your ANT opponent Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
Hey bro, good stuff. You'll have to make it out this way sometime for a lil Western Slope Legacy action.
Agreed! And thanks again for clearing out those pesky Eldrazi players :)
Yeah. They think they've got the format by the curlies, but I beat triple Thought-Knot on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by jroharo
Anyway, decklist time:
SUNDAY JUNK
Creatures-14
4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Siege Rhino
Spells-23
4 Lingering Souls
1 Batterskull
1 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Vindicate
3 Thoughtseize
2 Cabal Therapy
1 Painful Truths
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Sylvan Library
Land-23
1 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Karakas
4 Wasteland
1 Savannah
2 Scrubland
3 Bayou
1 Marsh Flats
3 Windswept Heath
4 Verdant Catacombs
Sideboard-15
2 Containment Priest
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Choke
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Krosan Grip
1 Council's Judgment
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Thoughtseize
1 Sylvan Library
1 Toxic Deluge
Highlights were not losing a match to Eldrazi, winning a match against Belcher, Extracting both FoW and Counterbalance vs. Miracles within the first 3 turns of the game. Toxic Deluge is an insane card, Siege Rhino got so many raised eyebrows but won so many games (Rhino with Batterskull is better than any Eldrazi I've run into), Sylvan Library being a busted card, and finally, the Singleton Revoker stays, as I was able to win multiple games ONLY because of him.
Slops: Here's to Enchantress, it's a damn dirty deck and I wish it didn't exist lol. It was a teammate of mine playing it, and he did quite well, going 4-0-1. I probably would have gone 4-0-1 if I had won, but alas, drawing isn't something either of us were willing to do so, win some, lose some. It is a terribly bad matchup for this deck, though.
Anyway, thoughts, criticisms, whatever. Fire away. Was hoping to hear from Matt yesterday, maybe he isn't home yet....Canada's a big place, one could get lost lol.
-ABC
Med school final exams are the fucking worst. Best thing? Add me on Facebook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
Cool, you don't mind? I wouldn't mind chatting once in a while. My girlfriend is studying to become a veterinarian, so I'm picking up what you are putting down. Would you PM me your full name so I can add you to my FB?
Edit: I don't remember my Saturday list exactly, but I do remember
-1 Lingering Souls
-1 Tarmogoyf
+1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
+1 Hero of Bladehold
Anyone play Spirit of the Labyrinth + Mirri's Guile build?
Nope, that's gimmicky imo. Besides, Spirit is often not great.
Here is what I'll be playing for a Thursday night magic and at our local win-a-box on the 28th.
4 DRS
1 Revoker
3 SFM
4 Goyf
3 Rhino
4 Lingering Souls
1 BSkull
1 Jitte
4 StP
3 A. Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Vindicate
3 Thoughtseize
2 Cabal Therapy
1 Painful Truths
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Sylvan Library
4 Wasteland
1 Karakas
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Savannah
2 Scrubland
3 Bayou
2 Heath
2 Flats
4 Catacombs
Sb-15
2 S. Extraction
2 Priest
2 Canonist
2 Choke
1 Sylvan Library
1 Disenchant
1 A. Decay
1 Vindicate
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Deed
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Slightly meta-gamed.
Why are you playing Dryad Arbor in a list without Green Sun's Zenith? The ability to fetch into a creature post Terminus (or to save something else from Liliana's -2) is enough to justify a land that can't produce mana when it comes into play AND can be removed by standard removal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
The fetches have been enough. The meta I play in is less than competitive and even when I played this at GP Albuquerque in side events, I did so without zenith and was satisfied with the results of 3-1-1, losing to enchantress (terrible matchup) and drawing with a very slow miracles player. If it becomes an issue, of course I will be revisiting the issue. As for netdecking and not understanding, you are welcome to your opinion, but my record with junk speaks for itself. If this were a netdeck, i believe the list would contain at least 1x GSZ, however, it does not... You, sir, are clearly a scholar and a gentleman. Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
You should probably use this fetch setup then:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
or
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Windswept Heath
1 Marsh Flats
Even so, 7 fetches to grab Dryad Arbor seems less than optimal.
It probably is. Again, however, I did mention that I did metagame a bit. There is only 1 miracles player and a lot of non-blue red lists, so I still feel that the Arbor is necessary, but to the extent that I would want to GSZ for it; I doubt it.
Edit: for those of you who believe that I should be running GSZ, how many do you think I should play, and what do you believe I should drop?
Edit #2: I thought it out, and I think I prefer Oath of Nissa to GSZ, so if I do anything, it will be those.
Feel it's worth pointing out that his list also uses Cabal Therapy to fully utilize the Dryad Arbor.
Is it weird that I want to play the Gitgud Monster in a deck with Dryad Arbor and Cabal Therapy?
The Gitrog Monster will probably be best in a shell that already has the potential to abuse it, like Aggro Loam. In my opinion, it would require a lot of changing to this archetype, and red is probably better than white, honestly.
You're implying jund?Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
White gives you Plow and combo-game. I'm probably misunderstanding what you're responding to.
IMO; junk has better game against almost everything in the field except those that are weak to PFire IMO.
Either way, Enchantress is quite doable if you run Lilianas, 5ish discard, and something like EE in the side. I don't think i've lost a match to Enchantress in any deck I've played; but maybe it's just bad luck on your end?
I was speaking about The Gitrog Monster and was simply stating my personal opinion of where The Gitrog Monster will most likely be at its best. I implied Jund because afaik, it's the most common form of Aggro Loam. Also Jund Lands, both of these decks play LftL and Mox Diamond, making Gitrog a prime candidate for a slot there. Drawing a card for wasting a land and using that draw to dredge up your LftL to get back the Wasteland plus two more seems good. Of course you are correct about white having more game, but at this juncture, a Junk list that truly abuses Gitrog's abilities is not currently in existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by tescrin
@ Enchantress: I can't say for sure, but you may not have been playing a proficient enchantress pilot, because I test against it weekly, as a teammate of mine plays it, and only it. A very strong list and pilot. Lmk if you can come up with a consistent way to get rid of Worship + Shrouded enchantress as well as a Solitary Confinement with a Sterling Grove on the table. Also,win con is hardcast Emrakul or Helm RIP main. I have to tell you, it's a bad matchup.
Normally I finish them off with DRS. It's one of the best cards ever printed against them unless they're on RiP ofc. IME, normally I'm disrupting their ability to get their game going with Discard, get a bunch of damage in, and while they start setting up a lock they are finished out by DRS. I'll say the last time I faced them as Junk I was using a pair or so of MD Tidehollow Scullers (closer to DGA) which did *a lot* of work. The ability to slow the engine with non-targeted removal and then dismantle their hand while swinging seemed reliable the few times I got to play it as junk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
I did play them again as Grixis recently no problem; also locking the game up with DRS. If your buddy runs the RiP/Helm version I could see it being a bigger issue; though your Decays have nothing else to do than pick off 1-mana rampers so I imagine you can still do this.
Most of the time I see the deck, it seems to fumble over itself with minimal disruption. Right now I sold my Lilis when they got mega-profitable so I couldn't say how it'd go until I figure out what kind of deck list I'd be running. DGA would be my likely route; in which Vindicate does a good impression of Hymn against them.
Anybody try out Tireless Tracker? Or is it not as good in this deck because of only having 4 mana dorks? I've read a few Maverick lists liking him
I haven't, but they certainly have more ways to abuse him and mana ramp to use him. KotR for saccing, the mana-dork problem (they have 9ish due to GSZ.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
I think any build running KotR not only allows mana ramp but quick sizing of Tracker + immediate tokens upon resolution, potentially multiples, by even T3.
I could be worth testing, but I feel like Junk's point is to be lower to the ground (2-drops) and just have too many to deal with.
Is this list still played/relevant anymore? Im thinking if making it
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=99984