I'd like to note that against Grixis Delver & RUG Delver, I kept both Moxes in and sided out a Ponder for the Bayou.
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I'd like to note that against Grixis Delver & RUG Delver, I kept both Moxes in and sided out a Ponder for the Bayou.
If you choose to note that, I'll then ask you the same question: do you prefer to go for Ad Nauseam or Empty the Warrens against BUG/RUG (and I would guess Grixis too) by default? Why your choice over the other?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Of course, granted that you have a reasonnable choice between the two, as sometimes an option becomes more difficult.
I go for whatever is more situationally appropriate? While keeping in mind if they possibly sided in sweepers in post-board games. This is a very weird question as you should know by now that these questions are almost useless in a vacuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDX
@Peter - I noticed a post from you yesterday saying my brainstorm failed because I only had twelve lands. I played thirteen and actually sided in the fourteenth in that match-up.
I agree, but I'm not pulling this question out of nothing. I'm trying, really :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
What motivates my question out of the vacuum is that someone like Final Fortune seems to choose one over the other right while he sideboards, as he says he ''default board out ETW g2 vs BUG/RUG''. To me, that's an arbitrary preference and choice for the incoming game. No, it doesn't mean Ad Nauseam because his only way of winning or is a definite choice, but it clearly shows that he prefers to go that way over EtW, no? (If we take for granted Peter is right when he says the best chances for EtW to come quickly is from your hand and not after an IT or BW, which I believe.)
If by your answer, I must understand that you don't have a preference under the same circumstances and that I shouldn't ask you questions about others preferences while you don't share them, then you gave me a proper answer.
On an other topic, regarding this discussion again from your games against hard hate, is there any hope to expect in your report how you are ''being fast'' (what does it involve? anyone can win turn 1 with a good hand, so how do you work to be quick) and what is this ''knowledge of the matchups'' you have? By all means, if you prefer to keep that to yourself, that's fine (we indeed can ask a lot sometimes...), but you wouldn't believe I would get satisfied/learn anything with these anwers, would you? :laugh:
There are different approaches to post-board, you can either wait a game to see whether or not they SBed in hate vs Empty the Warrens and how much hate they SBed in or you can assume they would SB in hate for Empty the Warrens and therefore you should SB it out now, in Chess it's called Prophylaxis or anticipating the opponent's strategy and making a move in order to prevent said strategy. You reduce the utility of your Infernal Tutor by cutting Empty the Warrens, but you increase the efficacy of Ad Nauseam and decrease the utility of their Empty the Warrens hate as well.
I think of the deck as 3c Aggro Goblins game 1 and an Ad Nauseam deck game 2 in match ups where token sweepers are common, but that's not to say I still don't Burning Wish for it.
To me, the question of "Do you side out ETW versus RUG/BUG?" is what you're actually trying to ask. If this is the case, all you had to do was read the match-up guide on the site. To which, the answer is no.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDX
I mean, there's no big secret. It's about learning the values of cards in certain match-ups, like how Ponder is too slow against D&T and MUD too often. You'll want to keep hands that are explosive on turns 1 or 2. You're not going to find some big reveal and suddenly be able to beat the ridiculous decks your friends built to beat you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDX
Fair points, once again.
My tournament report from this past weekend: http://www.theepicstorm.com/storming...5-fifth-place/
Gj!
Good you beat Edward Cullen (this guys life muss be hard with the name of a so meh vampire).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...en-eclipse.jpg
That's what that name is from?! His life is rough.
Yes, from that shity book/movie for 15 year old girls.
Hard, hard life...
Feel sad for him.
Weihenstephaner and Franziskaner are not Belgian. ;)
i guess half of europe have hinted to that in the meanwhile lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkJester
I'm at work, so sorry for the bad writing.
Quick notes from our practice before the final tournament tomorrow night. Ended 3-1, losing only (and again) to Death & Taxes. That puts me in a comfortable lead in the first place, but nothing is played yet. If I was to choke tomorrow and my closest opponents would win, I would still lose my spot. We'll see how that ended next week. That being said, I played Bryant's list, -1 Duress, +1 Chrome Mox.
My sideboard was however the following:
1x Empty the Warrens
1x Past in Flames
1x Dark Petition
1x Tendrils of Agony
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Shattering Spree
1x Void Snare
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Dread of Night
1x Pyroclasm
1x Massacre
By now you should know I faced all kinds of Ethersworn Canonist, Gaddock Teeg, Phyrexian Revoker, Thalia, Wrynn, etc. All the hatebears and a few extras like Chalice, Leyline, and all kind of Empty the Warrens removal. You know the drill.
I'll leave the details for the article, but I'll not play the Abrupt Decay tomorrow. I confirmed my final thought; I couldn't cast them without exposing to Wasteland, and by the time I was feeling comfortable at casting it, I couldn't anymore because Taxes issues. They're good against Counterbalance, great, but that's about it.
Round 1 vs Maverick:
G1
Turn 2 Ad Nauseam win
G2
He plays Ethersworn out of Dryad Arbor and Scrubland on his turn 2. On my turn 2, I cast BW for Massacre. He attacks on his turn. On mine, I play Massacre, clearing the board, holding Chain of Vapor for his EoT. Turn 4, he plays SFM, I combo out with Ad Nauseam. Was much easier to do than against D&T were so many land hate is played.
What I need help with was the sideboard. I went this way:
-2 Ponder, -2 Duress, -4 Cabal Therapy, +3 Decay, +1 Pyroclasm, +1 Chain of Vapor, +1 Void Snare, + Dread of Night, +1 Shattering Spree
That's a lot of sideboard changes and I went uncomfortable with that. I removed all discard because, while I know EtW + CT synergy is awesome, I was afraid I couldn't go anyway if I didn't. I didn't know how many Chalice did he play, nor how many Teeg, so I brought the Decay in thinking they would be of use. Pyroclasm as a general sweeper, would keep that all day every day, Chain of Vapor felt awesome to keep after I swept the borad. Dread of Night felt like -1/-1 isn't enough for most hatebears. Shattering Spree was brought vs Chalice, but could have been used vs Batterskull too if I went Goblins. Void Snare would have been better as an other Chain of Vapor the way I wanted to use it. If I would have seen more Chalice than expected, I would have boarded more Shattering Spree for Ponders, just like I did against D&T. Speaking of which...
Round 2 vs D&T:
G1
We both mull. I kept a 6 of... Gitaxian Probe, Gitaxian Probe, Cabal Therapy, Brainstorm, Fetch, Fetch. I felt like I had almost more chances at winning with this, as I could GP/GP/BS what I didn't like. I saw nothing after the GPs, so I didn't bother BS. Was aweful.
I discard his Thalia on my turn 1, his turn 2 was Canonist, turn 3 Revoker, I couldn't recover.
G2
Sideboard: -4 Ponder, -2 Duress, -4 Cabal Therapy, +3 Decay, +1 Pyroclasm, +1 Chain of Vapor, +1 Void Snare, + Dread of Night, +3 Shattering Spree
Cabal Therapy was left out because I've never been able to combo out, so combo with protection just felt too much of an impossible task. I'll try to explain my issue the shortest and clearest possible:
I keep Lotus Petal, Burning Wish, Ad Nauseam, Infernal Tutor, Fetch, Fetch, Chrome Mox. I try to be more patient as I was told to avoid Wasteland and Ports. Allright. Mana being 40% of our deck is I remember well, I expect to draw acceleration fast. I don't want to crack anything before I go to avoid Wasteland and Ports.
So on his turn 2, he plays a Canonist. I don't want to Burning Wish on my turn 3 to avoid Wasteland, but I finally end up getting Wasteland anyway because I have to search for hate already. Like, it wasn't so easy to play Burning Wish after Wrynn, so I had to crack more lands for cantrips to get more mana to play the initial line I had in mind anyway... needless to say it didn't work out, and I got obliterated. I had an Abrupt Decay in hand I didn't even play.
Examples of play that could have been played: turn 2 BW for hate. Turn 2 IT on Petal, for a turn 3 land/land/petal/petal/CM with BW > Ad Nauseam.
But they all expose to Wastelands.
Other matches weren't relevant to problems, or were at least understood. I won a game by a pure missplay of my opponent but else than that they were good.
Will most likely change 3 Decays for 3 Xantid to face this new Stoneblade match.
Any quick reviews/tips? If not we'll talk later this week, after the next amazing (and last) article for this summer.
See you!
A few quick opening hand scenarios:
http://www.theepicstorm.com/storm-hands-1/
TES Mailbox is back:
http://www.theepicstorm.com/tes-mailbox-2/
I see you cut cabal ritual, probably because you wanted the higher land count, however did you like the 7th discard spell? I'm sure a single cabal ritual may not be as good by itself. I've noticed a higher density of failed ad nauseams with it in my deck, even though I love it so much lol. Kill your darlings, I suppose.
I cut it over a month ago, I'm even pretty sure you "liked" the post in the Facebook group about it. The seventh discard spell was fine, the third Duress is worth it in a metagame where you want a guaranteed hit early against a decks like Miracles/Omnitell.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManCharm
Oh I'm sure I did, my memory is shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook