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My friend life is too short to play bad cards in magic, anyways im testing out 3-4 imperial recruiters main deck as our 5th-8th matron since he fetches all our guys except for krenko, hes not good on ringleaders but as top deck mid to late games he will give us the boost we need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
I have to disagree. Winning with bad cards is way more fun than winning with good ones. I love it =pQuote:
Originally Posted by Pinoy Goblin
That said, he does seem really hard to cast and to use. God luck anyway...
That typo made that sentence better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScatmanX
hahahahahahahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olaf Forkbeard
Wont even edit it....
Why are we playing Goblins then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoy Goblin
We really are due for a new set with pertinent goblins...
Hei, it's been a while I have played goblins but I got interested about caleb durward playing that food chain goblin. Of course lack of goblin recruiter is huge setback but could it work without recruiter?
I don't think so, since the recruiter is quite unique in that way. There could be a wacky way to recreate that, but it wouldn't be half as efficient, and it would not be a "goblin" deck IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel882
A little research can do wonders.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel882
The deck can kill as early as turn 2. The thread explain how to do it.
It is a little outdated. I really liked the Instigator version.
To bad I sold my Food Chains a long time ago... I`d certainly try something with it again.
That deck looks so sick omg...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScatmanX
Well, color me surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScatmanX
What about the stock warchief build minus ports....the red mana is often relevant.
What exactly do you mean? If you can explain your question a little more people will be able to give you proper answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmythegreek
You got me here bro, time to quit i guess :laugh::laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrw1985
What do you think about blue splash in goblins?
4 spell pierce
4 swan song
4 relic of progenitus
2 krosan grip
1 pyrokinesis
I think it is better then white color in sb because thalia costs 2, spell pierce ans swan song cost 1 mana.
Vs S&T in white sb you would sb-in 4 thalia+2 conf+1 sting+1 needle+2 grip and when you face ANT/TES you have only 4 thalia+1 needle+2 grip. Conf-sting do nothing in this match up.
4 thalia
2 confusin in the ranks
1 stingscourger
1 pithing needle
2 krosan grip
1 pyrokinesis
4 relic of progenitus
And in blue sb you can just sb-in against all combo decks 8 counterspells.
Counterspells are better then discard because discard cant solve the problem right now, right here.
So what do you think about it?
Some players over here are running the U splash and claim to have had some success. As far as I know they play U for Swansong and Izzet Charm. When you want to beat storm combo decks however you should be looking for a combination of countermagic/discard spells and hate in permanent form (like Chalice). If you have only one kind of hate (i.e. ONLY permanents, or ONLY discard, or ONLY countermagic) they can prepare better for that. (e.g. not boarding Chain of Vapor/Abrupt Decay when they notice you dont have any permanents).Quote:
Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper
Also you should consider playing Flusterstorm. Swan Song is definitely a strong card, but I would swap Spell Pierce for something else (Chalice/Thorn, or IzzetCharm/Flusterstorm).
Fluster cant counter sneak attack for example. Charm costs 2 mana is too much I think. And we cant combo chalice with 1 mana counterspell. I think you are right that we have to use counterspells and discards together, but 15 cards are not enought for that:(Quote:
Originally Posted by GoboLord
Thank you for reply
True, but it is slightly better vs, Storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper
True, but it is flexible, as it can also burn a creature randomly. However, I dont like Charm either. I was just sharing what people over here are playing. I would only splash U if I needed Swan SIng for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper
Well, you can play around said. YOu can ccast Chalice for 0 AND you can keep your Swan Song for when they try to get rid of Chalice @ 1 somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper
Well, you are playing 8 counterspells, so you DO have the space for that :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper
And chalices are almost do nothing vs S&T. On turn 2 you would rather playthaloa or use landcontrol. So I just trying to find the way to build 100% relevant sb with no dead cards like ashen rider and so on. If there are any blue highlevelgoblins like ringleader, we will play FoW.
For example even thalia doesnt solve the problems alone, she just delay them and always needs landcontrol and fast clock. Discard delayed for 1 turn, opponent always can draw a combo piece in his turn, so it also need a clock. Swan song need nothing, it solves the problems right here and right now, so I feel like I have to try blue splash in my deck.