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DimRet is fine vs prison (D&T) on the turns where Goblins are no longer an assured win or the games where the opponent has boarded in sweepers. Sometimes it's your only possible route to victory, low mana, low storm count, no hand or no graveyard etc. It's the Hail Mary of Storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemnear
Older versions of the deck aren't without their merrits, despite the rise of Islands
There are still natural Tendrils or PIF or flashbacked Therapies left as options to evade the need for DimRet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Fortune
I've played against D&T a lot post-board, naturally Storming vs their clock isn't really an option; honestly I just don't think you like the card?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemnear
You named three scenarios: D&T, Goblins no longer an option and boarded in sweepers. As i rarely see sweepers from D&T and the limited number of cases with Goblins not an option in mind, i see no appeal in a hail mary play against a limited number of decks and even a lesser amount of situations. Same goes with a lot of other old and cut cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Fortune
I dunno if natural storming is completely off the list with Dread of Night + CoV.
It kind of is with Revoker, Port & Wasteland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemnear
That said, I don't consider Diminishing Returns to be an option with today's lists. They're just not built for it anymore.
New article is up:
http://www.theepicstorm.com/tes-vs-ant/
Great article. I was testing Island this weekend in a turney and I was expecting more wasteland, but it never came up a single time in 7 rounds. Maybe I was lucky with the decks I faced, but I agree with the analysis.
Thanks, it just isn't needed with how little we actually need it in post-board games.Quote:
Originally Posted by arj
I see you changed the sideboard, I like the change. Is there a place where you go through what to sideboard in each match?
The homepage of the website: http://www.theepicstorm.com/#matchupanalysis
I don't know if this is the ideal forum for this suggestion, but a version of the TES site that looked more like this would make me very happy. I may just have atypical web design tastes, though.
Step 1, use Firefox.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefringthing
Step 2, click View->Page Style->No Style
Step 3, boring ass text and images.
Thanks Byrant for keeping it 2015!
My thoughts on the B&R Announcement and their effects on storm: http://www.theepicstorm.com/septembe...-announcement/
@Byrant
I think you are overstating the impact of DRS in the Shardless/ANT Match-up. With two extra mana you just tutor chain so that you have another tutor. DRS doesn't stop cantrip chain wins, natural storm or double ToA lines. Sure discard + DRS is a house against 1 ToA 1 PiF lists but there aren't many of those floating around. TES is hurt more by no DRS Hymm openings than ANT is. So before anyone gets defensive about it I will clarify in saying that DRS+Discard hurts ANT more, but in general Hymm hurts TES more since TES can't effectively use the GY as a resource which results in ANT and TES having pretty similar G1's against shardless.
My name is Bryant.
Also, I mentioned that resolved Hymn to Tourachs are painful, same with Liliana. Try reading the article please. Not to mention, every time I read "Just Tutor for another Tutor" I laugh a little as players always have so much god damn mana at their expense against a deck with Thoughtseize, Hymn to Tourach and Liliana with possible Abrupt Decays killing Lion's Eye Diamonds – which is why I said it's better to be fast in this match-up and win before their cards come online.
My name is Zach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Amen! Not to mention how hard it is sometimes just to get enough spare mana for the first tutor. Especially when you get paired against some jackass Infect player who topdecks spell pierces the turn after getting his only Flusterstorm duressed (or whatever actually happened when I lucksacked my way to a win in DC) :tongue:
Tutor chaining beats discard like finishing my dinner helps the starving kids in Africa.
@ Bryant
I'll keep it simple.
1. I made a typo.
2. I did read your whole article.
3. Having 9 mana isn't that crazy. And even conceding that it is, it still accounts for one of the many ways to win around a DRS. So why don't you address another one? That is if you aren't laughing so hard.
4. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to realize that it's easier to win before your opponent plays magic, but you can't just discount ANT's ability to play around DRS.
5. ANT can spit out goblins too.
The sad thing is that you are so insecure that you instantly get defensive. All I said was you are overstating the impact DRS has against ANT, a deck you don't even play, and you are reacting like I am calling you a mindless idiot.