Neat. A 4 color fit deck with Atraxa and Leovold got 11th at the classic today.
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109768
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Neat. A 4 color fit deck with Atraxa and Leovold got 11th at the classic today.
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109768
Hey that's me :D. I might post a report tomorrow but I am exhausted tonight. Although I will say Atraxa, leovold, Nissa Vital Force and kaya were all gas every time I saw them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbone2016
Also got to resolve Big daddy sorin against miracles and plus him up reveal elspeth sun's champ and then the next turn plus up reveal kaya. That game was very over.
@mstephenson: Congrats on the result! Looking forward to that report!
http://i.imgur.com/xZpzPdd.png
http://imgur.com/a/nBXWD
not to take away from Homeboy doing work.
updated bug fit
@Ricardio: 2 5-drops, 2 6-drops, a 7-drop and only 1 DRS?
Seems incredibly risky.
That 4c list is sweet, I play a very similar (of course) list without blue but it's hard to justify spending 100$ to acquire Leo and Atraxa online [emoji26]
E. Ricardio we should play some games sometimes! How do you like the biomancer?
The cost is ridiculous on each ATM. Hopefully that dies down.Quote:
Originally Posted by rubblekill
That's sounds good, bud. I have liked it this far. Makes everything an amazing clock. I was also thinking about alter ego.
Master bio and then master of the hunt is a combo lol
I didn't see Kaya in the posted list. Is it a 61st that SCG left off?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephenson
Edit: While I'm here, I'll post a brief report about a 4-round event I played locally today. I am playing Brael's list from page 387 (The list he's locked into for league) but with E. Wit over 2nd Tracker (forgot to bring one) and added a 2nd MB Deed for 61. Overall went 2-2. I'll try to get better at remembering afterwards what happened for reports in the future.
Rd 1: Burn 2-1; Sorin, LoI was key in G3. Shriekmaw + Stronghold is gas against Eidolon in G2. I think I got lucky, I had a soul read multiple times with Therapy and the guy was new to Legacy/deck.
Rd 2: Elves 2-1; G1: I whiffed on Therapy for NO T1, flashed back for both Hoofs in his opener. Grindy game untl he concedes to Mentor and 2x Top. G2: Grindy until he NO's for hoof, lots of maneuvering for DS activations on both sides. G3: his mana development was poor, Mentor + 2x Top closes door in turns.
Rd 3: My buddy on Vial Goblins (he plays it in an aggro-control manner) Quick 0-2; Both games, he is able to establish quick clocks and Gempalm stunts DS, while Port keeps me from getting Deeds down in time.
Rd 4: Merfolk 0-2; G1, he lays the lord beats pretty fast and i try to stabilize with a Courser + Meren + Arbor, but I misplayed by not Therapying his force before Meren and he forces Meren. G2 Lord beats plust a Spreading Seas on a land. Can't find deed in time to stabilize.
Yay, someone was willing to try my list. It sounds like you have a very aggro oriented meta. I find myself losing to burn from time to time, but I would say it's about 50/50, Eidolon is definitely their best card against this build. But, their other creatures get shut down fast so I like naming Eidolon with Therapy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDHackbert
Vial goblins is interesting, I've actually lost a couple times to the goblins decks. Basically they get to cheat mana, and short our mana development which is tough to fight. I think the same issue applies to Merfolk, the decks are just able to establish themselves faster. Our CA doesn't really start digging into more removal until turn 3 or 4, so until then we're operating at a deficit.
Something else I noticed is that all 4 rounds involved decks that have enough basics to get value off of Veteran Explorer. That can be a tough environment, because we need Vet to be 1 sided. If that's a typical tournament for you, I would definitely change the SB so that you can remove all 4 Vets.
How was Mentor for you? I've found that half the time it just automatically ends games, but the other half of the time it doesn't do much.
Thinking about running a Sneak Attack build:
- Drop Meren and Sidisi (they're good against matchups we already win)
- Move Primeval Titan to sideboard for Miracles
+1 Nissa, Vital Force
+1 Ob Nixilis, Reignited
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
All help stabilize the board, provide card advantage, wreck Miracles.
Nissa and Liliana can rebuy Sneak targets, Nissa also rebuys Sneak Attacks
Lower mana curve
Meren's primary synergy in the sideboard (Shriekmaw, for Eldrazi) can be swapped for Blood Moon, as discussed last page.
Thoughts?
Mentor was good at closing the door on the elves player when i had double tops, and i had already stripped them with therapies. It was so-so in other situations where i had to scramble to make enough tokens not to die, but usually did.
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Sounds like a plan! I've been curious to see how Liliana, the Last Hope is in Nic Fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
I have made the switch to put Meren in the side and have Nissa VF main. So far enjoying it although I've only had a few games in my most recent league. But I have seen her -3 come up often since Deed is so juicy to grab back.
Typically if I want to hard cast a 6-drop then I usually prefer Inferno Titan, and I will very often go ahead and use a Fierce Empath the turn before to grab it if I don't have Sneak Attack available. So personally I'm fine with removing Primeval Titan from the main. Not too sure about having him in the side specifically for Miracles though. I've a feeling that there is better single card tech for that matchup.
Blood Moon does sound nice against the stuff that Meren is good against - let me know how it pans out.
Once I get home I will try to post my meager record since Eternal Weekend. It's something along the lines of 11-12 in matches. Sad that I'm under 50% win rate but I'm still finding myself making mistakes. And I feel the online meta is harsher for nic fit. I had a solid win against Elves last night that made me happy though.
Prime Time did feel like the weakest of the Titans in the Sneak n Fit shell. When you're behind Inferno or Grave are amazing at bringing you back, and both do more than adequate jobs of closing a game as well. I guess Prime Time is something like Meren number 2; it fetches up a land and Stronghold which means you can recur a Titan every turn and destroy your opponent while actually killing your opponent (which Meren doesn't actually do admittedly).Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
I already cut Sidisi as well from my list (the list that Sean Brown posted on MTGGoldfish had 61 cards), it didn't feel that essential besides acting as a sac outlet and a catch-all tutor. I think Ob is non-essential for this deck though, Nissa and Lili have fantastic synergy, while Ob fills a similar role as Meren I feel. Great in grindy matchups (Shardless...) but not that great outside of that. I like Meren on the board then, but the deck is already vulnerable to grave hate.
But holy hell this Sneak n Fit list is fun. Being able to pull wins out of nowhere with a surprise Emrakul is always enjoyable. Take my comments with a grain of salt, only had like 3 games so far with this. The weekly legacy tournie for me is on Thursday though, I'll try it out then for sure.
Definitely! Heck I've clinched games by sneaking in Deathrite Shaman to drain at instant speed :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
Ob went in because I feel like the deck is a little lacking in both hard removal and card advantage engines, and he brings both. Most of the other removal in the deck is unable to hit large creatures, since we are not able to play Swords or Path. He could definitely be dropped, though. I do think he's better than Meren into a lot of match ups, since he's a lot harder for Miracles to deal with and has more immediate impact on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
That was my list he posted, Prime Time felt great all day, as the recursion engine of Tower/Stronghold was really strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
I'm also moving Meren out to the sideboard and cutting Nissa to the main. I would like to try Blood Moons in the sideboard though.
But yeah the deck is gas and is a lot of fun to play.
Those are valid points, but then I still have to find something else to cut (I'd rather not go to 61 cards). Maybe the Sakura Tribe Elder? I get the ramp factor is essential though, but it feels like the weakest card at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
It's a pretty swish list, I was very impressed by it. I was actually already considering putting some number of Blood Moons in the board for Drazi (I want to have some fun with Glissa, but Blood Moon is better admittedly). I'm gonna throw some Leylines of the Void in the board though, but there's like 2 reanimator decks minimum in my meta and some number of dredge I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by volrathxp
I like the recursion effect of Prime Time/Land combo, but I'd prefer Meren tbh. Less of a threat but much more value without sacrificing your draw step.
... That's actually pretty neat, I didn't even realise that was something I could do. I really hope to kill someone with that for maximum salt of being killed by a sneak attacked DRS.Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
Steve also has value in being able to turn off Jitte triggers with an active Meren (block sacrifice for the win).Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
Really in all actuality, 61 cards isn't going to hurt you with a deck that ramps like we do. It's felt fine in all of my testing (which was pretty extensive heading up to the Classic).
I am going to have to remember this.Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
Besides planeswalkers, what other cards can we use to maximize atraxa's proliferate? I can think of:
Scavenging ooze
Tireless Tracker
umezawa's jitte
Anything else that works well?