About 24 hours until the deadline, and we're at 4 entries. Don't miss out!
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About 24 hours until the deadline, and we're at 4 entries. Don't miss out!
Deadline has passed, but I'm rather busy at work so I probably won't be able to post decks for a while.
Also, I'm missing a submission from one of the regulars, so that particular regular can still send a deck if he (or she) is quick enough. :wink:
DECKS FOR ROUND 7 OF THE BLOCK TOUR Part 2: Theros Block (Theros, Born of the Gods, Journey into Nyx)
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
1. Asthereal (TO): OTP I TS your Hero, you TS a snake, and the other 2 trade. OTD basically the same thing. DD 2-2
2. square_two: I TS one Soldier and my snakes trade with the other 2. DD 2-2
4. Tylert: You found the meta deck. I can TS one, but your other 2 Pegasi fly over my snakes to win the race. LL 0-6
5. Wrath of Pie: OTP or OTD I TS one Lion and play 2 snakes. I attack with 1 and leave the other on defense, so your Lion never gets through. WW 6-0
6. H: Same as Asthereal. TS one hero, get TS back, and trade a snake with your 2/1. DD 2-2
7. GoblinSmashmaster: OTP I TS your Triton, but your Oppress my 2 snakes. OTD you play Triton first [G=19]. I play a snake. You Oppress it and attack [G=18; F=19]. I TS you, and you attack back [G=18; F=16]. By the time I play snake #2 I'm too far behind to race you. DL 1-4
8. Unlif3: Same as Tylert. LL 0-6
13 points (2 wins, 7 draws)
H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
I am pretty sure we just double draw, since whatever one person does, the other can too and we'll just stalemate with trading threats. 2-2
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
I actually can't win a race, but I can just always force draws. 2-2
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
Same as with Asthereal, I don't think there is a way for either of us to force a win. 2-2
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
Here is where it gets somewhat interesting. Lets see:
H: Swamp, Hero. (I don't TS here because I'd lose tempo and it literally changes nothing.)
Tylert: Plains, Pegasus.
H: Attack with Hero, Pegasus can't block. Play second Hero. [T=18]
Tylert: Cast a Pegasus, other can't attack.
H: Here is where it gets "interesting." If I attack with both Heros, you could trade both and we'd draw, since the last Pegasus would either get Seized or doesn't do anything anyway. But, I'd rather win, if i can. So, I attack with only one Hero. Because they have to both block, or not at all, I'd kill both, so Tylert can't block or else it's a loss. I'd Thoughtseize the last Pegasus though. [T=16, H=18]
Tylert: Now, it's 4 power vs. 4 power, but Tylert loses the race, because if both creatures stay back to block, I can win by single attacking, or if they attack, I swing back with 4 power. 16/4 is 4, while 18/4 is 5 turns.
Now, on the draw:
Tylert: Plains, Pegasus.
H: Swamp, Hero. (Again, TS is bad for tempo.)
Tylert: Pegasus, can't attack yet though.
H: Now, I have to TS, take the last Pegasus. I attack, again, because it would have to be a double block and that would lose Tylert the game if he did. [T=18, H=18]
Tylert: So, here I can't win this race, since my second Hero isn't even down yet.
Looks like 3-3 to me, unless I screwed this up.
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
I think this is another double draw, since I don't see how Wrath can push through and force a win, and I know I can't. 2-2
6. H: Bye, myself.
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
I don't see how this is anything but a double draw, since it breaks down to a 1/1 vs a 2/1, or no threat vs. two that can't attack. 2-2
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
Should be the same as above. 3-3
16?
Asthereal results for round "oh crap, Thoughtseize..."
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
That's me, sporting Seize plus land and two random black cards.
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
I guess we trade resources for the draws. 2-2
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
I guess we trade resources for the draws. 2-2
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
I guess you fly and are faster. 0-6
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
Seize one Lion, the other one lands and if I attack with my deathtouch guy, your Lion swings on the following turn, which isn't helpful for me. So I guess we draw? 2-2
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
More trades. 2-2
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
I think our match plays out the same as yours versus FTW. 1-4
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
I guess you fly and are faster. 0-6
Total: 9 points
GoblinSmashmaster Results for Round "Thoughtseize"
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
Triton races 4-1
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
Triton can't race a 2/1 2-2
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
Triton races 4-1
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
Pegasus can't attack alone 6-0
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
Only 2 threats. 6-0
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
Triton can't race a 2/1 2-2
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
That's me!
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
Pegasus can't attack alone 6-0
Total points: 30
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
Ah, an easy round for calculating :)
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
DD
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
DD
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
OTP
S: 2/1
T: 2/1
S: 2/1, attack T18
T: 2/1
S: 3rd 2/1, attack with 2 of them...you can't afford to block either one or both, T14
and I'm ahead on this race...
Basically OTP I can always attack with 1 less guy and you can't afford blocks since you can't be left with only a single dude.
OTD?
T: 2/1
S: 2/1
T: 2nd 2/1
S: 2nd 2/1, attack with the first..if you block then it's a 2-for-1, so you can't T18
T: 3rd 2/1, attack with 2 of them? S16
S: 3rd 2/1, attack with all 3 T12
and again I'm ahead. If you hold back all 3 flyers for equal blocking in an attempt to draw, then in response I'll just attack with 2 guys instead of all 3 of mine.
EDIT doh
WL
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
WW I can have one of my guys attacking while the other two are blocking.
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
DD
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
DD
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
WL
Points: 20
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero DD
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon LL - Funny how the protection clause was relevant.
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen LL
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus WL
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero DD
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays LL
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus WL
2w4d = 10 points
I need to stop playing Watchwolf variants.
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Tormented Hero
2. square_two: Plains, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon, Soldier of the Pantheon
3. FTW: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Pharika's Chosen, Pharika's Chosen
4. Tylert: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
5. Wrath of Pie: Plains, Forest, Fleecemane Lion, Fleecemane Lion
6. H: Swamp, Thoughtseize, Tormented Hero, Tormented Hero
7. GoblinSmashmaster: Mana Confluence, Triton Shorestalker, Oppressive Rays, Oppressive Rays
8. Unlif3: Plains, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus, Loyal Pegasus
1. Asthereal (TO): I do more damage, faster. 6-0 --> 6
2. square_two: OTP: T1 = Plains, pegasus. Plains, soldier
T2 = Plains pegasus. Plains, attack (M18), soldier
T3 = Plains pegasus attack (Y16). plains soldier attack Y(M14)
T4 = attack (Y10). attack (M8)
T5 = attack (Y4). attack (M2)
T5 = Win.
OTD: I can't win the race, and you just have to attack with 2 soldiers if i decide to def. 3-3 --> 9
3. FTW: I do more damage faster. 6-0 --> 15
4. ME.
5. Wrath of Pie: OTP, i attack first and win. OTD: You are one turn faster. 3-3 --> 18
6. H: your analysis is good. 3-3 --> 21
7. GoblinSmashmaster: You have two removals. it wrecks me. 0-6 --> 21
8. Unlif3: Draw i guess. we have the same constraints, we can def, block and then no one can win. 2-2 --> 23
Total 23.
This was an interresting round.
Congrats to GoblinSmashmaster who found the best deck :)
It was not an obvious one as using mana confluence costs life points. Luckily, thoughtseize does cost life too :)
I had all other decks except the triple soldier of the pantheon, which i dismissed because fleecemane lion was bigger... i forgot about the protection.
I knew i would win vs TS + pharika's choosen. I thought lion would not be played as it looses to pharika's choosen.
@square_two: You assumed that soldier of the pantheon has haste on turn 3... These 2 additional points of damage which are not done in fact makes you loose the race. same result vs unlif therefore.
Your math against Square_two looks right. You both have 3 2/1s, it makes sense you trade games 3-3.
Yeah that was not obvious at all, but it seems smart. It got him an extra win vs me and Asthereal instead of 2 draws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
If he played Plains and a white creature, it wouldn't have evasion and we could block to trade and draw. If he used Temple of Enlightenment, entering tapped lets us TS his creature to draw. Mana Confluence gets it down before TS. He loses life, but then if I don't cast Thoughtseize he can remove both my creatures, so I have to lose life too. Forcing me to cast Thoughtseize before a creature also costs me a turn in the race.
DOH you're right. I've amended my post and scores. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
A bit late for the submission, a bit late for the analysis, real life has been keeping me busy lately. I owe you all an apology, especially to Asthereal who's doing an awesome job at entertaining us at the expense of their own time. Big props to them.
Fortunately, I submitted the same 4 cards as Tylert, so my score should be 23 as well.
Preliminary scores for round 7:
1. GoblinSmashmaster: 30 - 4,3
2. Tylert: 23 - 3,3
2. Unlif3: 23 - 3,3
4. square_two: 20 - 2,9
5. H: 16 - 2,3
6. FTW: 13 - 1,9
7. Wrath of Pie: 10 - 1,4
8. Asthereal (TO): 9 - 1,3
Which means GoblinSmashmaster takes the lead, closely followed by a heap of players. It's a close race this season!
Round 8 of 4CB Season 4, The Block Tour - part 2, has started. For this round we shall play Khans of Tarkir block (Khans of Tarkir, Fate Reforged, Dragons of Tarkir)![/B]
I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 8, so you can start sending me your decks.
DEADLINE: Wednesday the 27th of November, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)
PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Swamp, Plains, Chief of the Edge, Chief of the Scale (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S04R07 in the topic. Many of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me the time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!
After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.
Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition. :smile:
Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:
The sample deck has two Watchwolves.
That looks sort of familiar...
I ran out of brain. Apologies. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
About 24 hours until the deadline, and we're at four submissions. Don't be late! :wink:
EDIT: Aaand we're at seven. I don't know why I keep reminding you guys. Some of you just like to ride the (dead)line. :cool:
Working on it.
I've got a good deck in preparation with two warriors that will be huge and will rock the meta but shhhh... i won't tell anymore.
DECKS FOR ROUND 8 OF THE BLOCK TOUR Part 2: Khans of Tarkir block (Khans of Tarkir, Fate Reforged, Dragons of Tarkir)
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Plains, Ruthless Ripper, Ainok Bond-Kin
2. Wrath of Pie: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin
4. square_two: Jungle Hollow, Forest, Rakshasa Deathdealer, Rakshasa Deathdealer
5. H: Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar
6. Tylert: Plains, Plains, Ainok Bond-Kin, Ainok Bond-Kin
7. Unlif3: Dismal Backwater, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin
I really should have played 2 Despise instead of 2 creatures! Clean sweep...
1. Asthereal (TO): Despise your Ainok. Then I have more 1/1s than you. WW 6-0
2. Wrath of Pie: See below. LL 0-6
4. square_two: Despise one Deathdealer, but from there I can't race you or threaten to kill you. LL 0-6
5. H: You're less threatening than Wrath, but I still can't race you. LL 0-6
6. Tylert: See below. I can Despise one but then the other can grow and race me. LL 0-6
7. Unlif3: See below. I Despise you but you can get it back and race me. LL 0-6
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Same as Wrath. LL 0-6
6 points (2 wins)
Vs Wrath OTP
Me - Ripper
You - Backwater (W=21)
Me - Goblin. Attack (W=20)
You - Crucible. 1 counter
Me - Despise Dragonlord. Attack (W=18)
You - 2 counters
Me - Attack (W=16)
You - 3 counters
Me - Attack (W=14)
You - 4 counters
Me - Attack (W=12)
You - Remove 4 counters: Icefall Regent, tapping Ruthless Ripper
Me - Do nothing
You - Attack with Regent (F=16).
I need 12 more attacks and you need 4 more attacks.
OTD is worse. I lose both.
Vs Tyler OTP
Me - Ripper
You - Plains
Me - Goblin. Attack (T=19)
You - Plains. Ainok
Me - Despise other Ainok. Attack. If you block, you lose. (T=17)
You - Outlast +1. 3/2 First strike.
Me - Attack (T=15)
You - Outlast. 4/3 First strike.
Me - Attack (T=13)
You - Attack me (F=16).
You can win in 5 attacks while I need 7, so you win the race.
Vs Unlif3 OTP
Me - Ripper
You - Backwater (U=21)
Me - Goblin. Attack (U=20)
You - Crucible. 1 counter
Me - Despise Dragon. Attack (U=18)
You - Haven. Sacrifice to return Dragon.
Me - Attack (U=16)
You - 2 counters
Me - Attack (U=14)
You - 3 counters
Me - Attack (U=12)
You - 4 counters
Me - Attack (U=10)
You - Remove 4 counters: Necromaster Dragon.
Me - Attack with 1 deathtouch. (U=9)
You - Attack with Dragon (F=16). Pay 2: create 2/2 zombie. I lose.
2. Wrath of Pie: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Plains, Ruthless Ripper, Ainok Bond-Kin WW
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin WW
4. square_two: Jungle Hollow, Forest, Rakshasa Deathdealer, Rakshasa Deathdealer WL - Turns out the gainland saves the day on the play. On the draw I am a turn too slow to cast Silumgar, and Icefall Regent fails to win by itself.
5. H: Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar DD - First to play a creature loses.
6. Tylert: Plains, Plains, Ainok Bond-Kin, Ainok Bond-Kin WW
7. Unlif3: Dismal Backwater, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon WW
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar DD - First to play a creature loses.
9w4d = 31 points
Was worried about double Despise and double Chief of the Edge, but the latter loses to deathtouch creatures and Ainok Bond-Kin and double Despise carries some risk.
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
Total points: 34
Man. I missed so much good cards...
Rashaska deathdealer... how come i did not see that... it seems good.
And i really thought that crucible of the spirit dragon could only do colorless mana... and thought so that dragons could not win anything :)
H: Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Plains, Ruthless Ripper, Ainok Bond-Kin
So, I think I can win this. If you only cast Ripper, so Silumgar can't steal the Ainok, I'd just steal Ripper, then Bond-Kin could just get blocked by Ripper. I don't see a way to have both race either, before I can cast Silumgar. 6-0
2. Wrath of Pie: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
You know, one, I completely missed how Icefall is better than Necromaster. Second, I did not think about the mirror at all. I'm pretty sure whoever casts a Dragon first just loses though, so I don't see how this ends up as anything but a set of draws. 2-2
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin
As FTW covered, even my suboptimal build can win these. 6-0
4. square_two: Jungle Hollow, Forest, Rakshasa Deathdealer, Rakshasa Deathdealer
This one is trickier, since Deathdealer can both trade with Necromaster or regenerate if I block one. Which would seem to mean it's better if I just cast Silumgar, I think. Lets see:
H: Haven, pass.
S2: Hollow, gain 1, pass. [S2=21]
H: Crucible, add one counter, pass.
S2: Deathdealer, go.
H: Add counter to Crucible, 2 now, pass.
S2: Not sure, but lets see about playing the second here, attack [H=18], pass.
H: Add counter to Crucible, 3 now, pass.
S2: Attack, pump, [H=12] pass.
H: Add counter to Crucible, 4 now, pass.
S2: Attack, pump, [H=6], pass.
H: I actually can't wait on Silumgar since I die on the next attack. Cast Necromaster.
S2: Actually, either line is fine, either pump to kill the Necromaster on block, or just regen the one blocked. because in either case, I'd be at 4, which means even making a Zombie token on my next turn isn't enough, since the other can be pumped.
So here is where Icefall would have been much better. 0-6
5. H: Bye, myself.
6. Tylert: Plains, Plains, Ainok Bond-Kin, Ainok Bond-Kin
I don't know that my intuition would be right here, but this seems slow. Lets see.
H: Crucible, pass.
TT: Plaing, pass.
H: Haven, counter on Crucible, pass.
TT: Plains, Ainok, pass.
H: Counter on Crucible, 2 now, pass.
TT: Now sure what line is better though. Lets suppose playing a second, because only one likely runs more risk of getting Silumgared. Attack for 1, [H=19], pass.
H: Counter on Crucible, 3 now, pass.
TT: Pump one Ainok, attack with the other, [H=18], a 2/2 and a 1/1.
H: Counter on Crucible, 4 now, pass.
TT: Pump the other Ainok (again, putting all the eggs in one basket will likely be bad in the face of Silumgar), attack for 2 with the other. [H=16], two 2/2's now.
H: Lets see what happens if I hold out for Silumgar. Counter on Crucible, 5 now, pass.
TT: Since Silumgar is inevitable now, probably best to get in with both, so [H=14], pass.
H: Cast Silumgar, take a 2/2.
TT: Can't attack, pump to a 3/3.
H: I can actually race from here, since I have 5 power, and TT can't pump and block, or attack and pump.
I don't think TT being on the play will help that much, so I think I win both. 6-0
7. Unlif3: Dismal Backwater, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon
I think I can win this, since I can Silumgar the Necromaster, or play my own and chump. 6-0
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
I think this is a set of draws. 2-2
28, unless I made some errors?
4. square_two: Jungle Hollow, Forest, Rakshasa Deathdealer, Rakshasa Deathdealer
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Plains, Ruthless Ripper, Ainok Bond-Kin
DD
OTP you get to a 4/3 first strike and me with a Deathdealer, and you at low life so we draw out.
OTD it's similar, you have 1/1 deathtouch and 4/3 first strike blocker, and we draw. You can't attack with 1/1 and win against me attacking both and regenerating the blocked one.
2. Wrath of Pie: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
WL
OTD your extra point of life allows you to get Silumgar out, stall, and then Icefall after that.
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin
WW single Deathdealer trumps both
5. H: Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar
WW
OTP I get you to 18 then 12, 6 and dead before you can cast either.
OTD you manage to get out Necro to defend once before my 2nd deathdealer closes in
6. Tylert: Plains, Plains, Ainok Bond-Kin, Ainok Bond-Kin
DD
OTP you play an Ainok and then pump it to 4/3 before playing your other. This gets you down to 6 life before you have 4/3 and a 2/1 and can stall out.
OTD similar.
7. Unlif3: Dismal Backwater, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon
WW
OTP you get necro out but have to block, 1 zombie a turn isn't enough
OTD I win the race of 2 damage a turn, regen the deathdealer blocked by zombie.
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
WL
OTD your extra point of life allows you to get Silumgar out, stall, and then Icefall after that.
28 points
I wrote off Crucible thinking I could beat ramp decks with Despise. Not if they just play 2 Dragons...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
Yes. I played double bon-kin exactly to beat any despise deck (except the ones playing another removal) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Asthereal's results for round "oh crap, I overlooked a storage land":
1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Plains, Ruthless Ripper, Ainok Bond-Kin
That's me.
2. Wrath of Pie: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
Flyboys evade the 1/1 deathtouch, tick up dude gets stolen by the Dragonlord. It's a massacre. 0-6
3. FTW: Swamp, Despise, Ruthless Ripper, Shambling Goblin
Despise takes my tick up dude. Two 1/1s beat my one. 0-6
4. square_two: Jungle Hollow, Forest, Rakshasa Deathdealer, Rakshasa Deathdealer
Yay, I don't lose this! Don't win it either, but okay. 2-2
5. H: Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon, Dragonlord Silumgar
Flyboys evade the 1/1 deathtouch, tick up dude gets stolen by the Dragonlord. It's a massacre. 0-6
6. Tylert: Plains, Plains, Ainok Bond-Kin, Ainok Bond-Kin
One pair of Ainoks trade, but the first strike of the second beats my deathtouch dude. 0-6
7. Unlif3: Dismal Backwater, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Necromaster Dragon
This necro dragon guy also looks quite dangerous. I don't feel like calculating this, but it's probably faster than my team. 0-6
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Dismal Backwater, Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, Icefall Regent, Dragonlord Silumgar
Flyboys evade the 1/1 deathtouch, tick up dude gets stolen by the Dragonlord. It's a massacre. 0-6
So that's what? 2 points? Ouch.
Fixed one of my results, I was apparently calcuating as though Dragon Silumgar cost 5 mana instead of 6.
Hmm odd because Square_two got the same result as you. I just did the math and confirmed. OTD you're at 1 life with 4 charge counters so you have to play Icefall Regent to avoid dying, then block and trade with the remaining one, then the other is unfrozen and kills you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
TylerT vs Unlif3
T - Plains
U - Backwater (U=21)
T - Plains. Ainok #1
U - Crucible. 1 counter
T - Ainok #2. Attack (U=19)
U - Haven. 2 counters
T - Outlast one, attack with other (U=17)
U - 3 counters
T - Outlast the same one (4/3), attack with other (U=15)
U - Remove 3 counters: Cast Dragon.
T - Outlast the small one and attack with 4/3 first strike. U can't block. (U=11)
U - Staying on defense leads to a loss, so U attacks with Dragon and makes a 2/2 zombie. (T=16)
T - Attack with 4/3 and 3/2 first strike.
If U chumps the 4/3 each turn, he loses the race
(U=8, T=12, U=5, T=8, U=2, T=4, U=dead)
If U doesn't block (U=4)
U - At 4 life he must block the 4/3 next turn, he can't double block to kill the 3/2 or force it to Outlast. Attack with Dragon + 1 zombie and create zombie. (T=10)
T - Attack with 4/3 and 3/2. Zombie chumps the 4/3. (U=1)
U - Attack with Dragon and create a zombie (T=6).
T - Attack with 4/3 and 3/2. Both zombies chump.
U - Attack with Dragon and create a zombie (T=2)
T - Attack with 4/3 and 3/2. 4/3 gets chumped (U=dead)
Under both lines Unlif3 is just 1 turn too slow, so Unlif3 should be able to win going first. I'd guess WL 3-3, but neither of them have posted.
Good catch! I updated my results. Must have thought that it was silumgar and 3 lands which would make him castable when the storage land charged to 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
1. Asthereal: Ok with your analysis. 6-0 --> 6
2. Wrath of pie: This is close. But Casting silumgar first is enough to buy the one turn i need to kill you OTP. 0-6 --> 6
3. FTW: This is exactly the kind of match up i built my deck for. You despise one bond-kin, the other one outlasts once and races your team. 6-0 --> 6
4. square_two:
T1 = Plains. Jungle Hollow (Y21).
T2 = plains, Bond-Kin. Forest. Rakshasa.
T3 = Outlast (3/2). Rakshasa (M19).
T4 = Outlast (4/3). (M15).
T5 = Bond-Kin. (M13).
T6 = Outlast (3/2). (M11).
T7 = Outlast (4/3). (M9).
T8 = From here. i can defend with one, take 2 per turn and attack with the other, but you're ahead. so i defend and it's a draw. Same scenario OTD.
2-2 --> 14
5. H: If you cast silumgar first, i can't kill you before necromaster comes into play. 0-6 --> 14
6. Me.
7. Unlif3: OTP: T1 = Plains. Dismal (Y21).
T2 = Plains, bond-kin. Crucible (C1).
T3 = Bond-Kin (Y19). Haven (C2).
T4 = (Y15). (C3).
T5 = (Y11). (C4).
T6 = (Y7). necromaster.
T7 = Outlast (3/2). Attack --> Zombie 2/2 (M16).
T8 = Outlast (3/2), attack, You chump. attack --> Zombie 2/2 (M12).
T9 = (Y4). Attack --> Zombie 2/2 (M8).
T10 = (Y1). Attack --> Zombie 2/2 (M4).
T11 = Attack you dead.
If you don't attack at any point. i Can outlast so you can't block and it's the same result.
OTP = You'll be one turn faster so you win. 3-3 --> 17
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Same result as vs Wrath of Pie. 0-6 --> 17
Total = 17.
I need to learn to read cards as usual. I thought crucible was colorless mana and restrained myself to monocolored dragons. Of course, these are crappy compared to Silumgar. Overall, i'm happy with the results but I should have found rakshasa deathdealer!!
Scores for round 8
Rank. Player: Score - SP
1. Wrath of Pie: 31 - 4,4
1. GoblinSmashmaster: 31 - 4,4
3. square_two: 28 - 4
3. H: 28 - 4
5. Tylert: 17 - 2,4
6. Unlif3: 15 - 2,1
7. FTW: 6 - 0,9
8. Asthereal (TO): 2 - 0,3
For the season ranking, not much changes at the top. GoblinSmashmaster holds the top spot still, with Wrath of Pie close behind.
Noteworthy is the fact that square_two managed to overtake me, despite missing the first three rounds. So I'll be holding the red lantern for a while.
We're getting into the new block structure now, with just two sets per block, so we're combining blocks in order to have a large enough card pool to keep things interesting.
Round 9 of 4CB Season 4, The Block Tour - part 2, has started. For this round we shall play Battle for Zendikar & Shadows over Innistrad block (Battle for Zendikar, Oath of the Gatewatch, Shadows over Innistrad, Eldritch Moon)!
I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 8, so you can start sending me your decks.
DEADLINE: Wednesday the 4th of December, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)
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Please send your deck as follows: Plains, Nephalia Academy, Selfless Spirit, Not Forgotten (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S04R09 in the topic. Many of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me the time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!
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Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:
I assume Expediitons aren't legal?
Indeed they are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
If you use the Gatherer and enable the blocks we're playing, you'll get all legal cards. There are no Expeditions cards in the list.
Interestingly, they do show up when you search in Scryfall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
But they are a different situation than Time Spiral: Timeshifted. They are special foil promos and not printed in the majority of packs. Although they were Limited legal, they were not Block Constructed legal or Standard legal.
Thanks for pointing this out. Could have caused confusion. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
No reminder? i'll send you something tonight. or in 10 minutes... will see.