[Deck] Dryad Sligh

honestly i'm not a big fan of slith firewalker in this deck. If i were going to replace it i would probably play two more seal of fires and two genju of the spires. Genju of the spires is pretty good imo in dryad sligh as obviously you can replay genju and get more counters for your dryad. Also if genju connects it's pretty much game over for your opponent as you can usually just burn him out from there. Your playing philosophy of fire in this deck so one hit from genju just got you three cards.

Turning your mountains into creatures which can be killed is such a liability in a mana-light deck.

Why is everyone picking on Slith?

Because Scab-Clan Mauler and Blood Knight are superior creatures? Slith is nice in the mono red builds, but he just doesn't cut it when you begin to splash.

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Originally Posted by noobslayer

Because Scab-Clan Mauler and Blood Knight are superior creatures? Slith is nice in the mono red builds, but he just doesn't cut it when you begin to splash.

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I outlined what decks they're good against at the end of page 3 of the thread. How are they superior? They're good, but I've found Slith better in more situations than those two, who are great but only in certain (limited) situations.

I'd like cards that are good against a lot of decks than cards that are great against certain specific decks.

I went through more games... I had Slith in, and thought if it would have been better as a Blood Knight or a Scab-Clan Mauler. I kept on drawing 7 until I kept a hand with a Slith in it.

Against a Survival variant (RG), a Slith took it all the way as I kept on burning all his creatures. At the end of the game, he showed me a Shivan Wurm, which he would have casted if he was given a few more turns, which Knight would have. SCM would have been just OK.

Against Red Death, the Slith was burned early, but it delayed disruption for a turn which allowed me to plop down two Lavamancers. A topdecked Slith grew to 4/4 to take it. Blood Knight would have been slower, and I wouldn't have been able to cast SCM because I was cut out from green sources pretty well.

Against R/g Goblins, the Slith was able to get huge enough to get out of Gempalm Range. Blood Knight would have easily been killed and SCM would have been an OK replacement.

We can throw all our opinions and situational examples that we want at each other, but I think for the sake of inciting any flames, you and I should just agree to disagree on this point. In mono red, I'd likely play slith, but I'm just not an advocate of it in multi colored builds. I'd at least like to think I know what I'm talking about as I played the deck for an extensive time competitively against a rather varied metagame.

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Originally Posted by noobslayer

We can throw all our opinions and situational examples that we want at each other, but I think for the sake of inciting any flames, you and I should just agree to disagree on this point. In mono red, I'd likely play slith, but I'm just not an advocate of it in multi colored builds. I'd at least like to think I know what I'm talking about as I played the deck for an extensive time competitively against a rather varied metagame.

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That would be a good move for the both of us, I think, as I can claim the same statement for myself.

Good News: This decktyp got a second place at "Bazaar-Liga Legacy März 2007" (76 players/Germany)

http://www.germagic.de/dc/deck.php?id=7667

I'll copy the decklist...

4 Wasteland
4 Taiga
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Stomping Ground
8 Mountain

4 Kird Ape
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Jackal Pup
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Quirion Dryad

4 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lava Dart
4 Magma Jet
3 Fireblast

Sideboard:
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Red Elemental Blast
3 Anarchy
4 Krosan Grip

First thing that jumped into my mind was that a Chalice for 1 would hose the deck. Also, Wasteland on its own w/o a complimentary strategy seems rather weak, especially in the current meta. Jackal Pup also seems pretty subpar.

That said, it's nice to see someone prove my claim that an aggro deck consisting of nothing but creatures and burn still has what it takes to T8 in an open metagame. Hopefully this draws more people to play Dryad Sligh.

Hah, that's my exact build aside from I use 3 Reckless Charges in place of the Chain lightnings. I can't help enjoying Reckless Charging a Dryad.

With the inclusion of stomping grounds in some builds (offering more green sources), what do we think about Jungle Lion? It most likely wouldn't be included for the sole fact that it can't chump block a lackey, but still. With more green sources, SCM also gets better.

Jungle Lion over another beater, or in addition the creatures already in the deck?

If we keep adding more green cards to the deck, it would follow that we would add at least a basic Forest in there somewhere to compensate for it. I guess I can see that happening in the near future, especially if Fireblast will go down to 3.

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Originally Posted by kicks_422

Jungle Lion over another beater, or in addition the creatures already in the deck?

If we keep adding more green cards to the deck, it would follow that we would add at least a basic Forest in there somewhere to compensate for it. I guess I can see that happening in the near future, especially if Fireblast will go down to 3.

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Basic forest is bad in this deck. To understand just how bad it is, put one in the deck, and then goldfish the deck 20 or 30 times, trying to win on turn 4 every time. It's amazing how often having a basic forest in play slows you down by a turn or 2. Nothing sucks more than being a fireblast away from victory, but only having a mountain and a basic forest in play.

If you're going to start playing more than 8 green spells in the deck, then you're really playing rgbeatz and you don't belong in this thread anymore. Honestly, I don't like playing more than 4 green spells. Those 4 should be either Rancor or Quirion Dryad.

I currently favor 'Rancor Sligh'
// Lands
4 Taiga
1 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
6 Mountain

// Creatures
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Kird Ape
4 Blood Knight
4 Slith Firewalker
4 Grim Lavamancer

// Spells
4 Rancor
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
2 Seal of Fire
3 Fireblast

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I like that build, Volt. Why not make a thread for it? :tongue: Do you run the same SB as I do?

Tarmogoyf seems like a good include for this deck. Only problem is we might have to drop the Grim Lavamancers, or perhaps move them to the sideboard.


4 Taiga
2 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
5 Mountain

// Creatures
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Kird Ape
4 Slith Firewalker
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Quirion Dryad

// Spells
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
4 Seal of Fire (enchantments for the goyf)
3 Fireblast
2 Incinerate

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Originally Posted by Volt

Basic forest is bad in this deck. To understand just how bad it is, put one in the deck, and then goldfish the deck 20 or 30 times, trying to win on turn 4 every time. It's amazing how often having a basic forest in play slows you down by a turn or 2. Nothing sucks more than being a fireblast away from victory, but only having a mountain and a basic forest in play.

If you're going to start playing more than 8 green spells in the deck, then you're really playing rgbeatz and you don't belong in this thread anymore. Honestly, I don't like playing more than 4 green spells. Those 4 should be either Rancor or Quirion Dryad.

I currently favor 'Rancor Sligh'
// Lands
4 Taiga
1 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
6 Mountain

// Creatures
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Kird Ape
4 Blood Knight
4 Slith Firewalker
4 Grim Lavamancer

// Spells
4 Rancor
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
2 Seal of Fire
3 Fireblast

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I'd personally remove the firewalkers in favor of Scab-Clan Maulers. I find that they work better in the deck, and you will almost always wind up with a 3/3 for 2.

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Originally Posted by Ihsan

I'd personally remove the firewalkers in favor of Scab-Clan Maulers. I find that they work better in the deck, and you will almost always wind up with a 3/3 for 2.

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Yeah, but with the amount of burn you can use to clear away blockers, coupled with the fact that it has haste, Slith Firewalker will most often get a lot larger than a 3/3.

Mauler still has trample, though, I suppose.

Slith's size >>> Mauler's trample, since trample's only good when there are blockers... And more often than not, there would be no blockers... :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Volt

4 Taiga
2 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
5 Mountain

// Creatures
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Kird Ape
4 Slith Firewalker
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Quirion Dryad

// Spells
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
4 Seal of Fire (enchantments for the goyf)
3 Fireblast
2 Incinerate

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Hey, what happened to the Street Wraiths? 56 card sligh + synergy with Goyf seems good.

The below is a suggestion and has not been tested.

// Lands
4 Taiga
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Mountain
4 Simian Spirit Guide

// Creatures
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Kird Ape
4 Slith Firewalker
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Sparkspitter

// Spells
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
4 Incinerate
3 Fireblast

// Artifacts
2 Cursed Scroll