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My meta
Dominant: GoyfSligh, Merfolk
Others: CounterTop, Dread/Land/Walkerstill, BantSurvival, Goblins, some Stompys
Play False Cure/Kavu Predator.
Sounds like a nice place to run ichorid :)
If they don't run graveyard hate, yes. :D
Then Ichorid would be good anywhere =).Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJones
Im actually running it since quite some time and wanted something else xD.
What about a meta like this:
1. Landstill
2. Countertop
3. Aggro Loam (mostly RGb)
4. ANT (the ant version), Zoo, Merfolk, Ichorid
eta: ANT as in no burning wish--> warrens. And no weird complicated doomsday stuff. Minimum MD 2 an.
ant version, you mean, with ant queen and fire ants? :confused:
No, Ad Nauseum Tendrils, as opposed to pre-Shards storm decks that just ran a million one-cost cantrips and a couple other big draw spells (like Infernal Contract). The threads for ANT and TES (The Epic Storm) were split after Ad Nauseum was implemented if you want to check them out; as someone who almost never plays combo, I don't feel comfortable explaining the differences. I think it's like the difference between Dredge lists with or without LED (LED lists are more explosive, but non-LED lists are more consistent), but don't quote me on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJones
So my meta is rather small:
Wu White Weenie
Bw Vaka Pox
G ChaliceStompy
2x R Burn
Rgw Zoo
U Muc
Ichorid
2x Rb Goblins
Uwb CB/Top Zur
My choices are between Enchantress and GW Budget Survival (where a black splash for Pernicious Deeds would be possible)...
As much as I wanna say survival, I have to say that enchantress sounds much better here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipp2293
Thanks, but I'm rather new to Enchantress, any particular problematic matchups among those listed?Quote:
Originally Posted by beastman
Ichorid, maybe burn, Chalice Stompy depending on whether or not they have Trinisphere and how many Chalices they have access to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipp2293
Ichorid isn't actually that bad for Enchantress, thanks to Elephant Grass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies
Assuming you open one and can pay the upkeep. They can always just beat you down with a huge Grave-Troll if necessary, and bring in hate games two and three.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roman Candle
Speaking of being gullible :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by coraz86
I'm getting bored of the Rock decks I have been playing though they have been good. My meta consists of like 4 CB decks from dreadstil to Nassif and Painter in there too. Other than that there are a couple of goblin decks, dredge, hightide and zoo. What would be good? I was thinking merfolk with a w splash. Any thing better than that?
My meta:
Aggroloam
Goblins
MBC
Ichorid
Affinity
ie: no FOW whatsoever
I'm thinking combo, but which one?
No fow?Quote:
Originally Posted by workingdude
SI or Belcher :D
The meta where I'm playing quite often consist to 70% of Aggro decks like Goblins and Zoo, with about 20% being Thresh with CB and SDT. The rest of the 10% are decks like Dreadstill, Burn, ANT and even some Solidarity.
Please also note that I'm kinda on a budget, 300 bucks is the maximum I want to spend. If the deck contains a lot of the must-haves like goyf or FoW, it's a different story.
Landstill tuned to beat aggro could be good. I don't know if it would fit into your budget though. ANT is another possibility. You will beat every aggro deck, but lose quite a lot to the CB Thresh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidd
Ichorid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidd
You could pick up some flavour of mono-white control (Quinn or another variant). It's really cheap to build, Moats aside (but Humility works too), and easily tuned to smash red decks. Maindeck plenty of Pulse of the Fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nidd
Hey guys,
I've been thinking about buying a new deck since I'm only in possession of the Dredge and Stormcombo Pool at the moment.
The only conditions are that the deck should be able to beat the following consistently:
- Zoo/Sligh
- Merfolk
- Countertop
Preferably it would be a rather controllish deck, but it doesn't really matter.
I'm counting on your help!
Fred
//Edit: It should obviously be competitive and therefore Tier 1 or 2.
Enchantress, landstill, Canadian Thresh and goblins comes to mind. Do you have any budget constraints?
Also, something like Truffle Shuffle, MBC, the Rock, and other heavyremoval.dec should get the job done.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenOne
If played Landstill for quite a while and I'm not feeling comfortable against Zoo or Merfolk. The burnspells should also frighten MBC.
Sooo, I'll make it short.
What should be my next deck?
Goblins or TES?
I have no budget restraints, also I own for
Goblins: Lackeys, other lil' gobs, Vials
TES: Rainbow lands, Chants, Silence and all the other smaller stuff
Also I have already a Canadian Threshold and a Merfolk-Deck.
I need a deck that's good against zoo, merfolk and isn't too bad against randomness.
I have never played goblins before but have quite a more or less succesfull combo history.
So what to build?
Goblins , TES or something totally different like Countertop.dec?
Hope to hear so voices.
Cheerio.
What should I play in my meta?
zero combo
some counter top/thresh/nlu
some landstill and aggro loam
a few appearances by each of goblins, zoo, deadguy, merfolk, and janky aggro decks.
Survival sounds like the deck.
That's actually the kind of meta where you play the decks you're most comfortable with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchar
I have no clue what to play in my meta. It consists of:
Combo every so often
Some CB-Top decks
Dredge
Aggro decks like zoo and gobs
UW control
And a player who plays different decks every time.
Ok, big tournament comeing up at the beginning of next year and i wann aplay the right deck =) I need to have good MUs against GoyfSligh and Merfolk and a fighting chance angainst: CounterTop, Dread/Land/Walkerstill, BantSurvival, Goblins, Dragon/Faerie/Green Stompy
I would love to play something controllish, with FoW in it (but no MUC XD)
A few options. Tempo thresh is fairly good against all of those aside from stompy decks. Ichorid is HOT depending on how much people board for it, Landstill (with cunning wish -> pulse of the feilds) is probably great too as humility> Listed decks aside from maby goyf sligh.Quote:
paK0 Ok, big tournament comeing up at the beginning of next year and i wann aplay the right deck =) I need to have good MUs against GoyfSligh and Merfolk and a fighting chance angainst: CounterTop, Dread/Land/Walkerstill, BantSurvival, Goblins, Dragon/Faerie/Green Stompy
I would love to play something controllish, with FoW in it (but no MUC XD)
Bottom line I would play UW/b cunning landstill and beat thier faces with more humility :D
Landstill beats stompy decks hard core, you just play 4 EE 4 Path 4 Spell snare 1 Path 1 Wog 1 Nevs disk 2 humility 1 E tutor and bingo thats the end of fish.deck
Goyf sligh is just a good MU. I guess my point for landstill comes down to humility> non combo decks.
In the end go with what you know I would pick ichorid if people dont pack hate but dont repeat the offence and bring it again or you will do poorly :P
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Originally Posted by Ch33bs
Zoo would probably do fairly well in that metagame, just as long as you board 3+ crypts you should be fine.
My meta is becoming increasingly more aggro lately. I am facing down many many zoo
few aggro elves
few burn/sligh
one b/w aggro.
rarely combo (belcher or ichroid shows... never teps)
few rock / pox
Now, it's becoming harder and harder for me to win these tourneys with counterbalance (u/g/w) so I figure the best option is me to switch to a Rock Deck. Am I correct in that analysis?
No, most Rock variants are much worse than UGW CounterTop against both Sligh/Burn and Elves.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHealex
Just tune your decklist appropriately. If between MD and SB you have access to Rhox War Monks, a couple of Jittes, 2-3 Condemn/PtE and some BEBs or Diverts you should be just fine against the decks you listed. EE could be good too (mostly vs. Elves if it's the Druid/Sentinel combo kind). Against all but Elves you can also try the old Worship+Mongoose trick, saving a FoW for their non-Grip removal.
A few decklists for inspiration:
http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=27969
http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=24189
http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=27809
I have made those tweeks (From maindeck RWMs to maindeck firespouts) and am still coming out on top, But the wins just require alot of work suggesting that it may be time I finally switch my deck :-P
Curiously, I have been wondering if the natural order + prog route would be benefical enough in this meta to be worth implementing....
worship+mon wouldn't work very well since I have been playing countertop variants for quite some time and people are very heavily SBed for me (some even 15 cards)... you know how small tourneys of like 10 with the same people can be...
Hey guys. Next weekend I am playing in a tournament and I can't decide whether to play Mono Black Aggro or UBg/UBw/UBgw Vial Affinity. The problem is that I have no idea what the meta is going to be. There could be completely rogue decks, edited standard decks, extended decks, and probably a few top tier decks as well. So basically, which of these decks would do best in a possibly very random meta?
I would play Affinty. There's a high chance to you'll face a lot of aggro, against which Mono Black isn't that good. Also, you probably won't see a lot of artifact hate besides Krosan Grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmaster
I have the following metagame to break:
- blue aggro-control (Canadian Thresh, Merfolk, Dreadstill, Counterbalance)
- aggro (Goblins, Elves, Goyfsligh, Affinity, Suicide)
- non-blue control (Rock, Stax, Enchantress, Lands)
What would you recommend?
Landstill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bongo