List of Compact Combos

Pattern/Rector: 1+1+1/4+X+Y/4
Pattern/Rector with Greater Gargadon: 2+1/5+X/4

You need: Either Pattern of Rebirth or Academy Rector, a reusable sacrifice outlet (Gargadon works great), and one other creature.

If you have Rector, sac it to get Pattern. Put it on the other creature, sac it. At this point you can kill in two ways:

1. Fetch Iridescent Drake returning Pattern, sac it, fetch Reveillark, sac it returning Drake returning Pattern, sac it, fetch Body Double copying Reveillark, sac it returning itself and Drake returning Pattern, sac the latter, fetch Mogg Fanatic (or whatever else), kill thy opponent. (If you can't figure out how, go read some Standard articles on Lark.)

2. Fetch Protean Hulk, sac it, fetch Body Double copying Hulk, sac it, fetch Reveillark and Mogg Fanatic, kill thy opponent.

Advantages: With Gargadon (or Carrion Feeder) the combo costs only 5 mana. You get to run up to 8 copies of Pattern/Rector (also Natural Order if using Hulk) and however many sac outlets you want (though only four Gargadons). Gargadon can't be countered or dealt with in basically any other common way besides discard. Both Gargadon and Rector are creatures, for tutoring purposes. Pattern/Rector/Order are versatile.

Disadvantages: Needs a creature to put Pattern on. Loses to instant speed removal. Loses to graveyard hate.

If you Natural Order for Hulk, a single use sacrifice outlet is sufficient if you also fetch Carrion Feeder. I'm too tired to figure out if this loses to removal. You can Order and sac Hulk without passing priority, so it doesn't do so immediately.

I don't think the creator of this thread is updating it, atleast I couldn't find Painter/Grindstone combo in the first post - maybe a mod could edit the new combos into the opening post?

I thought I had Painter's Servant in there... oops, neglect on my part.

The numbers for Trix I thought I had fixed... apparently I aborted the edit. Originally, I confused total cost with minimum to be paid in one chunk.

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About some of the other combos... an Infinity/Infinity creature without Trample doesn't win the game by itself - something like River Boa or Bitterblossom or in some cases Mother of Runes could hold it off until the cows come home. Admittedly those cards aren't widely played, but even against decks that can only chump block this might simply become a stall instead of a win.

I know I'm drawing an arbitrary line allowing an infinite amount of creatures but not a creature with infinite stats - after all, the first one can be thwarted as well.

I'm also limiting this to 2.5-card-combos (e.g. 2 specific cards and some easy requirements like a card of a certain type or colour in hand). Otherwise, it's unlikely to really be a compact combo.

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Disclaimer: This combo is NOT compact.

However, it is actually a deck I have built for casual play which boasts a winning percentage greater than 0. And if there were ever a time to brag about it..

I call it Tick-Tock. Or the GhettoTimeVault.

Coretapper, Magistrate Scepter, Clock of Omens and Five Other Artifacts plus three mana = Infinite Turns.

3/12/5

Fits a nice curve of 2, 3, 4.

Alternatively, Coretapper can be Power Conduit and a full Sun Droplet. (This deck always has a full Sun Droplet because it's just a goldfish-punching bag til it goes off)

Basalt Monolith and Vedalken Artificiers provide the mana.
Aphetto Alchemist, Icy Manipulator, Quicksilver Fountain provide utility/defense.

The kill is to fill up a lone Darksteel Reactor.
But if my opponent boards Altar's Light, my alternate kill is Granite Shard.

Come to think of it, the chaff might be 57.

(Sidenote- I have won a game on MWS with this deck. Whether that is a testament to the deck or the quality of MWS scrubs, I dunno)

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It could be more compact with coretapper, magistrate's scepter and corpse dance

what ever happened to Forbidden Oath??

that was the shit.

Oath of Druids + Forbidden Orchard = Darksteel colossus

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what ever happened to Forbidden Oath??

that was the shit.

Oath of Druids + Forbidden Orchard = Darksteel colossus

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Oath of Druids:

Legal in Vintage, Tempest Block
Banned in Legacy

ahh..

why is it banned?? its not THAT good. it still loses to countermagic no?

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ahh..

why is it banned?? its not THAT good. it still loses to countermagic no?

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Tarmogoyf can also be countered. Now, for the same cost, look at the difference in powerlevel.

meh if that can get banned then so should counterbalance. same powerlevel i think. and that way SI is easier for me to go off with. :D

Counterbalance isn't remotely near of oath in power level terms...
You are comparing a card that need another artifact in play to be remotely efective and then it does nothing to the board state with an enchtantment that searches your library to your bigest and scariest creature and puts it directly into play without paying anything... I think its not the same...
A metagame with oath is a metagame without creatures, is that simply.

Then there's that land that shits creatures for the opponent as well as pheldagriff from invasion. Oath was easy to beat if they didn't play any mass removal with a rogue deck that could mass hard to counter creatures and/or recurr them easily. I saw that exploited severely in an oath dominated format, since they all went "anti-oath" mirror matches. Was amusing when people ditched the deck in 6 months.

The issue is, the format becomes really lame at the local level since everyone wants to play oath for dragons or angels.

Fons posted this as a potential new deck I thought it warranted extra discussion. The combo:

Skill Borrower & Kiki-Jiki Mirror Breaker (On top of Library) 2/3/(# of Kiki)

Set-up: Skill Borrower is in play without summoning sickness and is revealing a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker as the top card of the library.

Description of Combo: At the end of an opponent's turn, Skill Borrower taps to put a copy of a non-legendary creature (itself) in to play. Kiki-Jiki gives the new copy haste. Tap the copy of the token to generate another copy and repeat the process. Use this to generate infinite 1/3 Skill Borrower copies. Since these copies are sacrificed at the end of turn, one can swing for the win during your following turn.

Benefits: It require very little mana investment on the part of the Skill Borrower and setting up the top card of the library is rather easy (Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, Lim-Dul's Vault). There are very few dead cards, only the number of Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breakers.

Cons: Creature based combo in which Skill Borrower has to live through it's borrowed activated ability.

The combo requires more than three mana since you need to pay for the effect of putting Kiki on top as well. And since Brainstorm/Top can't RELIABLY find you a Kiki, I'd put it as either

2/4/# of Kiki

with a Worldly Tutor, or

1/6/# of Kiki

with a Congregation of Dawn (finding both Kiki and Borrower).


The nice thing is that the tutors can find you both pieces of the combo. The big problem of course is that it's based on a creature that has to live two turns, so you'd definitely need stuff like Mother of Runes, Sylvan Safekeeper or whatever in addition to your usual disruption. It's maybe comparable to Painter, which costs two mana more but needs to stay in play for only one turn.

Cards needed to find combo don't count as part of the combo because they're not part of the combo.

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Cards needed to find combo don't count as part of the combo because they're not part of the combo.

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Wouldn't they fall under chaff? Or am I completely misunderstanding the chaff concept? (a very viable option) :smile:

The Tutor/Congregation doesn't FIND you the combo piece, it enables the combo by putting Kiki on top. The difference is that with another combo, if you have both pieces in hand you don't need to pay any extra mana to search for one. But with this combo, you will ALWAYS have to pay for the tutors even if your hand is three Kiki and three Borrowers. In short, the combo is not Borrower + Kiki, it's Borrower + Tutor, just as Full English Breakfast is not a combo of Shapeshifter + Akroma + Phage, it's a "combo" of one card alone, Survival.

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The Tutor/Congregation doesn't FIND you the combo piece, it enables the combo by putting Kiki on top. The difference is that with another combo, if you have both pieces in hand you don't need to pay any extra mana to search for one. But with this combo, you will ALWAYS have to pay for the tutors even if your hand is three Kiki and three Borrowers.

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With Congragation, you need to add a Mogg or something to the stack. Borrower has no haste and you will draw Kiki-Jiki in the turn you were supposed to make a bunch of tokens. Unless you have a way to keep KJ on top or a way to untap your infinite tapped Borrowers, you wont be able to win. If you add a Mogg, you can make all copies during upkeep, then draw Kiki-Jiki and sacrifice your Borrowers with the Mogg now on top of your library.

Regarding Kiki in hand, use your Brainstorms wisely.

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Cards needed to find combo don't count as part of the combo because they're not part of the combo.

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Skill Borrower combos with Worldly Tutor (not Kiki-Jiki), similar to how Flash combos with Protean Hulk.

Sure you need some number of other cards in your deck in order for it to actually do something, but that doesn't change the fact that the cards it actually combos with are the card disadvantage tutors (Worldly, Enlightened, Lim-Dul's Vualt, Congregation at Dawn, etc).

Playing any more than 1 Kiki-Jiki in this combo downright awful. The combo is literally Skill Borrower + Worldly Tutor (as these are the two cards you're trying to resolve), not Skill Borrower + Kiki-Jiki (Kiki-Jiki having to be in your deck is really just a formality and has minimal effect on the rest of the game). Just like the combo is Buried Alive + Reanimate/Exhume (and you need Karmic Guide + Kiki-Jiki + Pestermite in your deck) and isn't actually Pestermite + Kiki-Jiki (you're never actually trying to resolve Kiki-Jiki here or with Skill Borrower, he isn't a 4-of in your deck).

If I have Kiki-Jiki and Skill Borrower in my hand, have I drawn the combo? Definitely not. If I have Skill Borrower and Worldly Tutor in my hand I have drawn the combo. It's irrelevant what creature/artifact Skill Borrower combos with, simply that there exists at least 1 card that when it's on top of your library and Skill Borrower is in play kills the opponent. Now you might argue "If you have Kiki-Jiki + Borrower + Brainstorm you have combo'd! What the hell?" Here Borrower isn't combo'ing with Kiki-Jiki but with Brainstorm. Skill Borrower is combos with cards that allow you to control what the top card of your library is. It's that simple. For the purposes of defining the combo succinctly, Kiki-Jiki only comes into the equation in that he must be in your deck.

Yeah, I guess you [pl.] are right. Is this the first combo in this thread that involves cards on the top of a library without Divining Top?

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Yeah, I guess you [pl.] are right. Is this the first combo in this thread that involves cards on the top of a library without Divining Top?

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There was draco-explosion discussed before that included other ways to have a draco on top (LDV,Ponder, Brainstorm, Portent).
Don't know if this is helpful, but here's the link.

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Yeah, I guess you [pl.] are right. Is this the first combo in this thread that involves cards on the top of a library without Divining Top?

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Yeah probably. I mean I'd look at it exactly as I would if there were a non-planeswalker spell with converted manacost 20, Erratic Explosion wouldn't combo with that card, it would with the Enlightened/Mystical/Worldly Tutor that put that card on top of your deck (dear Wizards, please print a 20 mana sorcery, I don't care what it does so long as there aren't any triggers for revealing it from your library).

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(dear Wizards, please print a 20 mana sorcery, I don't care what it does so long as there aren't any triggers for revealing it from your library).

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Seconded. I T8'd one of the few Extended PTQs I ever played in with Draco Explosion, I want that deck in Legacy, and viable !

"compact" combos

Intuition + Mesmeric Orb

2/6/8+

The other 8 cards are 4 Fatestichers + Dread Return and a way to win (Karmic, Kiki, Pester).

someone should figure out a more compact kill, because the ability to have mesmeric orb on the table, then intuition for 3 Fatestichers, seems awesome.

Also cool in that you might just randomly mill the fatestichers with the orb.

Oh, and just because it's funny:
Grave dependency: Yes
Needleability: Yes
Stiflabitiliy: Yes
Forceability: Yes
Wastelandability: No
Swordsability: Yes
Disenchantability: Yes
Chaliceability: X=2

Take that wasteland!



Recurring Nightmare + Mana Producer 1+ Su-Chi

3ish /10ish /Probably a couple

This is more of a shameless plug for a deck that never got any attention:
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=8054

Still, the infinite recurring capabilities of netting mana off of recurring nightmare seems good. Probably requires another chaff card to "win": say Trinket Mage into Magma mine, or a black fireball effect. I just liked drawing the deck then using rishadan pirate over and over.


Hehehe:
Grave dependency: Yes
Needleability: Yes
Stiflabitiliy: Yes
Forceability: Yes
Wastelandability: Not exactly
Swordsability: Yes
Disenchantability: Yes
Chaliceability: X=3

Well I've been having plenty of fun with Kiki-Jiki + Lightning Crafter for infinite damage. Something like:

2-3/3-10/goblins?
It's pretty simple to do, you just need a Kiki-Jiki in play before playing lightning crafter as well as a sacrifice outlet of some sort (Food Chain, Skirk Prospector, etc). If you've anything to remove to it then you might as well, but otherwise with the Champion trigger on the stack you can copy crafter removing kiki jiki, deal 3 to the head, sacrifice the copy and repeat the process. Sharphshooter also works as an alternative to a sacrifice outlet with lightning crafter copies killing themselves.

Hmm...could you update with the combos posted in the last pages (Skill Borrower combos, Pattern + Gargadon) ? I think they fit the definition of compact.

Also, Planar Void doesn't work with Helm of Obedience. And Time Vault has been banned in the meantime :wink: .

I also found a bit of a solution to the vulnerability of Skill Borrower, which is to stack the Congregation of Dawn with Borrower, Cephalid Inkshrouder/Sylvan Safekeeper, then Kiki-Jiki. While Borrower has summoning sickness, he can't be targeted, and when he can be targeted, you can already combo out, although if you combo they CAN remove it in response...but at least you'll have mana open to protect it. And if you have Top and a bit of mana, you can make it effectively immune to removal by switching Inkshrouder/Safekeeper and Kiki-Jiki around.

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Well I've been having plenty of fun with Kiki-Jiki + Lightning Crafter for infinite damage. Something like:

2-3/3-10/goblins?
It's pretty simple to do, you just need a Kiki-Jiki in play before playing lightning crafter as well as a sacrifice outlet of some sort (Food Chain, Skirk Prospector, etc). If you've anything to remove to it then you might as well, but otherwise with the Champion trigger on the stack you can copy crafter removing kiki jiki, deal 3 to the head, sacrifice the copy and repeat the process. Sharphshooter also works as an alternative to a sacrifice outlet with lightning crafter copies killing themselves.

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There's also the other combo based on Food Chain Goblins for Legacy used in Goblin Champions.

Matron+Food Chain+ at least 1 mana (or 1 goblin in hand)
2/8/6-12

- Grave dependency: No
- Needleability: Yes
- Stiflabilitiy: Yes
- Forceability: Yes
- Wastelandability: No
- Swordsability:Yes
- Disenchantability:Yes
- Chaliceability: No

The good thing about this combo (like Eseph's) is that it just needs Food chain as non-goblin card.

The "chaff" is, in fact, composed by
- Goblin Matrons (if you have already 4 mana in pool you need only 1 matron to combo though)
- 1 Goblin Pyromancer
- 1 Kiki-Jiki
- 4 to 7 between Lightning Crafters and Kiki-jiki, depending on how much damage you want to deal with the combo. 4 is the minimum to deal 20 dmg.


The combo can be played in multiples turns, and every creature you have in hand can be used to pay for the mana of the combo.
The combo works like this:
- Drop Food Chain
- Drop Matron finding Matron, Play matron.
- Repeat until you reach 4 mana in pool with a Matron in play
- Find Lightning Crafter with the last matron and play it, championing matron
- Sac Crafter (RRRRR in pool), matron triggers finding Kiki-Jiki
- Play Kiki-Jiki
- Copy Matron for Lightning Crafter
- Sacrifice the original Matron for RRRR
___REPEAT___
- Play Crafter, championing Kiki
- Sacrifice Crafter with Food Chain
- Kiki comes into play untapped
- Copy matron for Crafter
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- When you have no more Crafters in the deck, Kiki copies matron for Kiki-Jiki
___REPEAT___
- Sacrifice Kiki Jiki with Food Chain
- Play Kiki-Jiki
- Copy Matron for Kiki
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When you have no more Kiki in the deck, Kiki copies matron for Pyromancer. (If you need to avoid manaburn you can just Matron->Matron->Matron->Pyromancer)
- At this point you have 5-8 hasty copies of matron.
- Play Pyromancer (sac kiki if you don't have enough mana)
- Attack with 5-8 hasty 4/1 Matrons for >20 damage.

It's also worth noting that you can make Aluren + Recruiter immune to removal (if they have only one) just by adding one "junk" card. Instead of getting Man-O-War, search for a second Recruiter, then Dream Stalker. Stalker doesn't target, so you can get either of the recruiters if he removes the other. Get the second Stalker, then get Harpy, which also doesn't target so it too can get either of the Stalkers if the other is removed.

The "junk" is still four though, because you don't need the Ghitu Slinger you mentioned. Infinite life + your whole graveyard (you WILL have a Witness in there somewhere) should be enough for the win.

Hmm...this combo is seriously underplayed, I think. It is two mana cheaper than Painter (and immune to creature removal), and only one mana more expensive than Breakfast (but immune to graveyard or creature removal, and with less junk). It can also somewhat combat CBalance, Trinisphere etc since you can get a Harmonic Sliver with a Recruiter.

Oh, and of course there's Swan combo, only 2/6/0 if you're content with drawing your whole deck, and 2/8/1 if you kill with Conflagrate.

- Grave dependency: No
- Needleability: No
- Stiflabilitiy: Yes
- Forceability: Yes
- Wastelandability: No
- Swordsability:Yes
- Disenchantability:No
- Chaliceability: Maybe (at two)

Skill Borrower+Time Vault+Sensei's Divining Top: 3/3/4

Infinite turns. My apologies if this has already been posted. I looked but didn't see it.

Grave dependency: No
Needleability: Yes
Stiflabilitiy: Yes, but only delays it for a turn.
Forceability: Yes, but not once it's been started.
Wastelandability: No
Swordsability: Yes
Disenchantability: Yes
Chaliceability: No

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"compact" combos

Intuition + Mesmeric Orb

2/6/8+

The other 8 cards are 4 Fatestichers + Dread Return and a way to win (Karmic, Kiki, Pester).

someone should figure out a more compact kill, because the ability to have mesmeric orb on the table, then intuition for 3 Fatestichers, seems awesome.

Also cool in that you might just randomly mill the fatestichers with the orb.

Oh, and just because it's funny:
Grave dependency: Yes
Needleability: Yes
Stiflabitiliy: Yes
Forceability: Yes
Wastelandability: No
Swordsability: Yes
Disenchantability: Yes
Chaliceability: X=2

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Other infinite tapping/untapping options are:
Puresight Merrow + Paradise Mantle
Fatestitcher + Second Wind
Bassalt Monolith

Wake Thrasher has potential as a backup wincon.

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Oh, and of course there's Swan combo, only 2/6/0 if you're content with drawing your whole deck, and 2/8/1 if you kill with Conflagrate.

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I don't get it. You draw a good piece of your deck, then discard to 7 discarding conflagrate, then on the next turn play another Chain of Plasma, draw 13 cards and play conflagrate?

In short, how do you put conflagrate in your graveyard before discarding to 7 (so you have to combo another time to deal 20 dmg)

Chain of Plasma deals 3 damage to target creature or player. Then that player or that creature's controller may discard a card. If the player does, he or she may copy this spell and may choose a new target for that copy.

Discard it to Chain?

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Discard it to Chain?

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My Bad.

Does anyone know of a two-card combo that can kill multiple players in one turn? Bonus points for the cards being creatures.

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Does anyone know of a two-card combo that can kill multiple players in one turn? Bonus points for the cards being creatures.

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Does Kiki Jiki + Pestermite/Sky Hussar count? Are you allowed to attack multiple players in multiplayer?

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Does anyone know of a two-card combo that can kill multiple players in one turn? Bonus points for the cards being creatures.

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WARNING: Your friends will punch you in the face for running those.

What comes into mind is:
Aluren + Imperial Recruiter and then go for a Ghitu Slinger kill
Lots of creatures involved, and lot of chaff in the deck. Cost:2GG

Doomsday + Sensei's Divining Top
Cost: 2BBB+draw 4 mana (BBB for Infernal Contract or 2U for Meditate)
Doomsday stack:
[Top]
Draw4
Lion's Eye Diamond
Helm of Awakening
Sensei's Divining Top
Brain Freeze / Grapeshot
[Bottom]

How it Works:

Tap SDT to draw Draw4. Play Draw4 drawing SDT, LED, Helm of Awakening, SDT. Play LED. Play Helm of Awakening. Play both SDTs. Break LED for UUU or RRR (depending on whether you are using Brain Freeze or Grapeshot). Tap SDT to draw Brain Freeze / Grapeshot. Tap SDT to draw SDT. Play SDT. Repeat until you have the desired storm count. Play your win condition.

There's also:

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Well I've been having plenty of fun with Kiki-Jiki + Lightning Crafter for infinite damage. Something like:

2-3/3-10/goblins?
It's pretty simple to do, you just need a Kiki-Jiki in play before playing lightning crafter as well as a sacrifice outlet of some sort (Food Chain, Skirk Prospector, etc). If you've anything to remove to it then you might as well, but otherwise with the Champion trigger on the stack you can copy crafter removing kiki jiki, deal 3 to the head, sacrifice the copy and repeat the process. Sharphshooter also works as an alternative to a sacrifice outlet with lightning crafter copies killing themselves.

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If you're interested at his one, you can look at the Goblin Champions thread.

Enduring Renewal + Goblin Bombardment (2/6/1) can be found here.
Bomberman:3/4/0 here.
Stuffy Doll/Guilty Conscience: (2/6/0)

Rofellos+Staff of Domination+5 forests
Gain infinite life, draw your deck, make infinite mana, than play a red mana source (can be petal) and something like Meteor Shower.
Works with priest of titania+4 elves too.


There are some number of infinite combos for many colors. It depends on which colors you want to run.

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Does anyone know of a two-card combo that can kill multiple players in one turn? Bonus points for the cards being creatures.

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Are you looking for a Tooth & Nail finish?

Magus of the Future/Skill Borrower + Phyrexian Devourer.

Magus of the Future is probably preferable in the sense that it can finish in the same turn. From there, the deck can finish with stuff like 1GW for LED, Auriok Salvages and Helix Pinnacle. Alternatively, 1WB for Disciple instead of Pinnacle.... There may be leaner options.

So it works out to:
10 mana, 1 card in hand, 5 cards in deck

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Are you looking for a Tooth & Nail finish?

Magus of the Future/Skill Borrower + Phyrexian Devourer.

Magus of the Future is probably preferable in the sense that it can finish in the same turn. From there, the deck can finish with stuff like 1GW for LED, Auriok Salvages and Helix Pinnacle. Alternatively, 1WB for Disciple instead of Pinnacle.... There may be leaner options.

So it works out to:
10 mana, 1 card in hand, 5 cards in deck

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Traditionally, Pyrite Spellbomb is used in unison with LED+Auriok Salvagers

Also, I'm throwing a combo into the mix:
Magus of the Future/Future Sight+Helm of Awakening/Etherium Sculptor+Sensei's Divining Top is an infinite draw engine. The Future allows you to play the topdeck. Helm/Sculptor allows freeplay of the SDT and the SDT is the draw.

It's expensive as shit though. 7-8 mana to do it, 3 cards required, and the rest of the combo could be practically anything.

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Are you looking for a Tooth & Nail finish?

Magus of the Future/Skill Borrower + Phyrexian Devourer.

Magus of the Future is probably preferable in the sense that it can finish in the same turn. From there, the deck can finish with stuff like 1GW for LED, Auriok Salvages and Helix Pinnacle. Alternatively, 1WB for Disciple instead of Pinnacle.... There may be leaner options.

So it works out to:
10 mana, 1 card in hand, 5 cards in deck

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I don't get how it works.
You play Tooth and Nail, putting Magus of the future and Phyrexian Devourer into play.
Now you can play your first card of your library. Let's suppose it's not a combo piece, for example, another Tooth.
You then remove it from the game putting devourer ability on the stack.
Repeat the process until you find, say, the auriok.
You can't remove it. The stack empties and devourer dies (power greater than 7).
Now you have to pay 3W to play the auriok (not 1WG or whatever).
Future sight reveals some chaff you can't pay for (Tooth, but even another card, like force, discard, brainstorm, whatever) and your combo finishes.

Can you explain how the combo works? I don't get it.

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I don't get how it works.
You play Tooth and Nail, putting Magus of the future and Phyrexian Devourer into play.
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You can't remove it. The stack empties and devourer dies (power greater than 7).
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Can you explain how the combo works? I don't get it.

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You're right. I was substituting Devourer for for Mindlash without thinking it through adequately, and misread Salvagers.

Skill Borrower + Devourer with Multiple Kiki-Jiki and Fanatic in the deck still works, but isn't fizzle proof, since it's possible to page through all of the KJs without hitting a Fanatic.

It's better to just use the Reveillark Loop:
Pull - Protean Hulk + Carrion Feeder
Sack Hulk use trigger to pull Body Double (5) && Goblin Fanatic (1) -> Sack Shapeshifter/Body Double (Protean Hulk) for Reveillark (5)
Then the loop is:
Sack Fanatic for Damage
Sack Reveillark copy to feeder
Use Reveillark's leaves play trigger to put Body Double & Fanatic back into play.

So really, that's
7/1/5 for Tooth & Nail or
7/2/3 for Hardcasting Protean Hulk & Carrion Feeder