[Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by joemauer

Turn three could have also went like this:land drop, Brainstorm(put ad Nauseum, then b wish on top)>Probe paying two life and drawing b wish>Dark Ritual>Infernal Tutor(find LED)>Chrome Mox(imprint duress)>LED>LED>Burning Wish(using black floating and Gemstone Mine) while cracking LEDs for six black>Iggy>LED>LED>Infernal Tutor,crack LEDs for black and red>Burning Wish>Tendrils for 28 life.

What if your opponent is doing 3-6 damage a turn with any old aggro deck? A third turn Ad Nauseum won't get there then.

Ad Nauseum is random, but Ill-Gotten Gains is not. Ad Nauseum will not be an option every game you play in either. Ill-Gotten Gains, Past in Flames, and Diminishing Returns are in the sideboard for a reason guys. You guys should practice more with the other engines of the deck.

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Thanks for the reply, and this is why I asked for a bit more specific puzzles since this way it's just maybe a bit too easy to Ad Nauseam in each scenario. Or at least I always imagine Ad Nauseam as my primary win condition, and because of that I always think of going for it when possible. I actually use IGG pretty often, Diminishing Returns from time to time - Past in Flames is used pretty much never ever. I just feel like PiF needs 4-6 rituals in graveyard in order to be good, and with that amount of rituals I can usually win with other cards.

Thanks for saying the version which would have been more safe and 100% sure, since AdN can crap out from time to time.

Meh the chances of fizzling after Ad Nauseum are so slim, that I would do it again. It never happens to me other than that one time. Like I said. I was at 19 life, not 13. The fact that 4 cantrips later I still didnt find anything is just icing that God didnt want it to happen... I use IGG probably the most, then Diminishing Returns (even though I hate it), then PiF like the guy before me, I almost never use. Almost always I cannot sustain a good steady engine without an LED and PiF does not help me out there.

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

Meh the chances of fizzling after Ad Nauseum are so slim, that I would do it again. It never happens to me other than that one time. Like I said. I was at 19 life, not 13. The fact that 4 cantrips later I still didnt find anything is just icing that God didnt want it to happen... I use IGG probably the most, then Diminishing Returns (even though I hate it), then PiF like the guy before me, I almost never use. Almost always I cannot sustain a good steady engine without an LED and PiF does not help me out there.

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Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

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Right. Returns just ugh... I wish that Reforge the Soul were 4 mana...

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

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Ditto. I saw endure2004 complain the other day in a tournament report that Time Spiral, while good on paper, was consistently one mana too much. Has anyone tried Time Reversal in that slot? I don't love it, but sometimes I want that Hail Mary--I'm going to try it pretty soon, unless it's proven completely awful for someone.

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Originally Posted by coraz86

Ditto. I saw endure2004 complain the other day in a tournament report that Time Spiral, while good on paper, was consistently one mana too much. Has anyone tried Time Reversal in that slot? I don't love it, but sometimes I want that Hail Mary--I'm going to try it pretty soon, unless it's proven completely awful for someone.

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The problem with Returns isn't that it exiles the top 10 cards of your library. If you read the opening post, you would know that Time Reversal has been tried. I haven't been able to post as much recently, there's a new boss at work, he's very much against using the internet for personal use. That said, it's a bit disappointing to check the thread and see all this crap.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

The problem with Returns isn't that it exiles the top 10 cards of your library. If you read the opening post, you would know that Time Reversal has been tried. I haven't been able to post as much recently, there's a new boss at work, he's very much against using the internet for personal use. That said, it's a bit disappointing to check the thread and see all this crap.

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Right. D Returns is used to refill the hand and then go off a turn or two later with a new grip. That is what I use it for anyway. I just hate that it gets rid of your GY. Ive never had issues with the card that I exiled before though.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

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Use lube* next time.

* tears of burn players who lost holding on to Pyrostatic Pillar in hand as they take 20 on Turn 1.

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Originally Posted by Koby

Use lube* next time.

* tears of burn players who lost holding on to Pyrostatic Pillar in hand as they take 20 on Turn 1.

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I'm glad Koby joined the dark side, now I get to read posts like this.

DR is good when you shuffle 2 bobs and a Liliana your opponent has away, then draw into 3 lands, 4 cantrips, proceeding to rip into the sick with those cantrips next turn and killing your opponent to lock top 8 (true story).

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

I'm glad Koby joined the dark side, now I get to read posts like this.

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He's playing DDFT.

The MTGO Legacy metagame is weird. Half Countertop decks and half Show and Tell. I'm thinking about adjusting the sideboard a bit to compensate.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

He's playing DDFT.

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I have no allegiance to any deck. I play whatever gets easy wins at any given metagame. DDFT is more of a mental exercise to keep the brain sharp. TES is for crushing face when you expect to not play vs blue decks.

Blue decks of the control variants arent even that bad... its tempo that rapes us. I guess CB sucks for us, bit esper stoneblade isnt horrid...

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Originally Posted by Koby

I have no allegiance to any deck. I play whatever gets easy wins at any given metagame. DDFT is more of a mental exercise to keep the brain sharp. TES is for crushing face when you expect to not play vs blue decks.

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Losing to Thoughtscour sucks.

Went 6-0 at a local. Twice D-Returns won me two game three's in consecutive rounds.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

Twice D-Returns won me two game three's in consecutive rounds.

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1000% skill. Also, nice. Opening post list?

Have you guys considered a Trop or Bayou in the SB? I've been practicing the Miracles matchup quite a bit, and I've had a lot of trouble getting GB up in a reasonable amount of time. Putting a dual in puts us from 6 to 10 Green sources after SB (since Petal isn't really a green source if they've landed CB).

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Originally Posted by aaronm678

Have you guys considered a Trop or Bayou in the SB? I've been practicing the Miracles matchup quite a bit, and I've had a lot of trouble getting GB up in a reasonable amount of time. Putting a dual in puts us from 6 to 10 Green sources after SB (since Petal isn't really a green source if they've landed CB).

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Totally saw Jund scoop to your turn one on Magic Online.

I'd play the third City of Brass before Tropical Island or Bayou.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

Totally saw Jund scoop to your turn one on Magic Online.

I'd play the third City of Brass before Tropical Island or Bayou.

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Why would you play City of Brass over Trop? At least in the Miracles matchup, I've been boarding down to 1-2 Silence, since you don't really want to draw more than one of them, since that deck isn't really setup to cast more than 1 Counterspell in a turn.

I have been playtesting quite a bit on Modo, I've played ANT for a little while, trying to get used to the playstyle of TES.

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Originally Posted by aaronm678

Why would you play City of Brass over Trop? At least in the Miracles matchup, I've been boarding down to 1-2 Silence, since you don't really want to draw more than one of them, since that deck isn't really setup to cast more than 1 Counterspell in a turn.

I have been playtesting quite a bit on Modo, I've played ANT for a little while, trying to get used to the playstyle of TES.

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I've always found the deck light on off colored mana sources personally, it may be variance, but with anything less than 7 gold lands I've had to sac a Lotus Petal to cast a Silence far too many times.

DR with the 3 main colours floating almost certainly wins you the game if not on the turn, then the turn after. I'm starting to like DR again.

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Originally Posted by aaronm678

Have you guys considered a Trop or Bayou in the SB? I've been practicing the Miracles matchup quite a bit, and I've had a lot of trouble getting GB up in a reasonable amount of time. Putting a dual in puts us from 6 to 10 Green sources after SB (since Petal isn't really a green source if they've landed CB).

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Play out lotus petals when you draw them?

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Originally Posted by emidln

1000% skill. Also, nice. Opening post list?

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I wasn't going to say it... Also, yes. Hopefully you guys will see me on camera Sunday.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

I wasn't going to say it... Also, yes. Hopefully you guys will see me on camera Sunday.

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In a field of Jund and Punishing Fire Lands.dec, you have no reason to not win this tournament. Will be rooting for you.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

In a field of Jund and Punishing Fire Lands.dec, you have no reason to not win this tournament. Will be rooting for you.

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I hear people are expecting combo... I still haven't seen grapeshot at an SCG Open feature match...

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Originally Posted by jin

I hear people are expecting combo... I still haven't seen grapeshot at an SCG Open feature match...

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Folks have been expecting combo for awhile - that didn't stop Punishing Jund from doing really well.

Looks like our boys picked up 9th and 10th. Good showing.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

Looks like our boys picked up 9th and 10th. Good showing.

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That round 9 game was rough. It hurt to watch...

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

That round 9 game was rough. It hurt to watch...

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I really want to know his hand and reasoning for keeping a no-lander with nothing (it seemed) but a chrome mox for mana.

I also got 13th with the front page list but somehow scg messed up the standings on the website, don't even know how it happened

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Originally Posted by Gaka

I really want to know his hand and reasoning for keeping a no-lander with nothing (it seemed) but a chrome mox for mana.

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It looked like a very solid hand. All he needed was a mana source. He had disruption. It looked like mox, ritual LED and durress plus whatever else. Seems solid if you get there.

Expect a report for Friday's article.

Man... Achievement almost unlocked.

Ill post more about the tournament when I get home but I'm still on my way back.

Who else didn't touch their abrupt decays all weekend?

I didn't get to actually use my abrupt decay's too much at SCG ATL, but it is always nice to have it under a chrome mox turning it into a Bayou!

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

I didn't get to actually use my abrupt decay's too much at SCG ATL, but it is always nice to have it under a chrome mox turning it into a Bayou!

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What do you think this is, SI? ;)

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Originally Posted by phazonmuant

What do you think this is, SI? ;)

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Theres something that just seems fun about imprinting a gold card under a chrome mox... Though not as fun as imprinting a Moat under a Chrome Mox.

I drew into top32 at SCG NJ this weekend, unlike someone else....

Although they named my deck ANT.

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Originally Posted by Royce Walter

I drew into top32 at SCG NJ this weekend, unlike someone else....

Although they named my deck ANT.

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You had the option of being a man and playing it out. If you did we could've had 4 TES in the top 16.