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I wanted to see whether it was necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
Also, I didn't want to shout too much while the community is trying to get Source Secret Santa going again this year.
The Source isn't as buzzy as it used to be, so the cool things that keep it going deserve as much attention as possible.
Anyway, I have decks from all regulars, so I'll be posting them soon. :smile:
DECKS FOR ROUND 9, Battle for Zendikar & Shadows over Innistrad block (Battle for Zendikar, Oath of the Gatewatch, Shadows over Innistrad, Eldritch Moon)
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Asthereal results for round 9 (Battle for Zendikar & Shadows over Innistrad block):
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
That's me, sporting something slightly more creative but probably still crap.
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
I'm guessing my Prototype trades with one of your Gnarlwoods, my Gnarlwood will trade with your second and I have to keep Loam Dryad back to defend against the vampire for two draws? 2-2
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
This is an excellent deck. Ayli found some arrows indeed, and proceeded to shoot down my entire army. Well spotted! 0-6
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
Even OTD you're in time to use your removal spell to kill one of my small dudes in order to stop me from casting Prototype. You will kill Gnarlwood so Loam Dryad loses against your 4/4. 0-6
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
You can't attack. If I attack, you trade Prototypes and let the Gnarlwood come through in order to attack yourself the turn after. Can't let that happen so my Gnarlwood has to stay back and we draw. 2-2
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
We trade all our guys. 2-2
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
We trade all our guys again. 2-2
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
I can make your guy flip before you can equip it with Heirloom by simply not casting anything the turn after you play your messenger. This means you'll be stuck with a 2/2 and a 1/1 against my 5/5, 1/1 deathtouch and 1/2 guys. I should win that. 6-0
Total: 14 points
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
1. Asthereal: We have three threats each, which all trade. 2-2 --> 2
2. FTW: We have three threats each, which all trade. 2-2 --> 4
3. square_two: I guess you found the meta deck :) Saw arrows that wrecks my deck but dismissed it as it would loose to any 1 removal deck. I knew removal was bad this round... but did not list the deathtouch guy + arrows. By the way, isn't gnarlwood dryad + arrows better? you do your stuff one turn earlier. Haven't done the exact math, but you kill my three guys before i can kill you. 0-6 --> 4
4. Wrath Of Pie: I play 2 dryads, you declare them in stone, i play another one and we trade. 2-2 --> 6
5. Unlif3: at least something i can beat :) I have 3 threats that do trade with your 2 threats. 6-0 --> 12
6. ME.
7: H: Same deck. 2-2 --> 14
8: GoblinSmashmaster: My plan is to not play anything the turn you play messenger, that way it will transform and you won't be able to transform neglected heirloom. Anyway, attached to the wanderer, you will win. 0-6 --> 14.
Total = 14
I tought this round would be rock paper sissors one. But That was not the case. it's more about Ayli (or gnarlwood dryad) + arrow winning vs everything except removal decks and removal decks doing draws at best against everything else.
An interresting round that required to see the small interactions to win :)
So reminder for the next round: Reconsider if people will or will not play removal to know if decks with 1 threat that can handle a board are viable :)
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
Ayli doing a Hunger Games impression :cool:
Think I can shoot down everything unless Ayli gets turned into stone!
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
WW
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
WW
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
Welp, it takes me two turns to play out Ayli and then equip. And I can't do anything until she's out.
LL
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
WW
I know that I would Draw out against double Lupine on the draw, but Pacifist turning into 4/4 grants me the turn I need to shoot both down.
U: forest
S: arrows
U: academy, lupine
S: ayli
U: attack S15, pacifist
S: equip
U: attack with both (w flipped pacifist) S6
S: ping lupine
U: attack S2
S: ping pacifist
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
WW
@Tylert: Since the equip cost was 2, and arrows themselves cost 1 to put out, I figured that it was same speed either way. And Ayli was protected from Dual Shot and some other removal.
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
WW
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
WW
36 points
Oh no!! My deck doesn't work. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
Should have used my other deck: 2 Kessig Forgemaster.
GoblinSmashmaster results for Round "I submitted 4 lands"
I can has 16 points???
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
No deathtouch army 0-6
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
Lifelink deathtouch army 4-1
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
Combo 0-6
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
No deathtouch army 0-6
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
No deathtouch army 0-6
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
Deathtouch army! 6-0
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
Deathtouch army! 6-0
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
That's me!
Somehow i though that arrows costed 2. in that case, ayli is obviously better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
GJ.
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype WW
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat LL
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows WW - Pretty clever with the deathtouch pinger.
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype DD
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad DD
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad DD
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer WW
6w6d = 24 points
GoblinSmashmaster should score more than 0, 3/3 menace is quite potent as a clock (especially against the 1/1 deathtouch army) and if that fails 2/2 flying is good as well.
Heeeere we go for another "Deathtouch vs fatties" round. Yet again, I'm on the fat side: any resemblance with me is purely coincidental.
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Loam Dryad, Lupine Prototype
I think that I can force you to stay at bay because you most definitely won't win the race with one or even two 1/X vs a 4/4. DD
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
You keep deathtouchers back while I'm slowly drained by the Vampire. LL
3. square_two: Plains, Swamp, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Pathway Arrows
This is what I call a nice deck. LL
4. Wrath of Pie: Fortified Village, Nephalia Academy, Declaration in Stone, Lambholt Pacifist
If I cast Prototype it gets Declared then Lambholts trade. If I cast Lambholt you cast Lambholt, force the trade, then Declare the Prototype and that's a draw anyhow. DD
5. Unlif3: Forest, Nephalia Academy, Lambholt Pacifist, Lupine Prototype
That's me, niftily dodging Declaration in Stone but losing to 1/1 deathtouchers as usual. Some people never learn.
6. Tylert: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
Have I ever mentioned how much I like despise the Deathtouch ability? LL
7. H: Forest, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad
Have I ever mentioned how much I like despise the Deathtouch ability? LL
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Wandering Fumarole, Village Messenger, Neglected Heirloom, Mausoleum Wanderer
I should be able to win against a 2/2 and a 1/1 flier once I've forced the Messenger flip. WW
10 points ?
2. FTW: Foul Orchard, Gnarlwood Dryad, Gnarlwood Dryad, Vampire Cutthroat
Vampire Cutthroat is tech to beat fatties and Declaration in Stone while stopping a 1/1 flyer from racing me.
1. Asthereal (TO): You can't attack because Lupine + dork would trade with 2 Dryads. Cutthroat can't attack into 1/2. We stare at each other. DD 2-2
3. square_two: GG. You broke the meta. This format has a lack of discard and good removal. Thanks to Lupine Prototype, the 1cc removals are useless and Declaration is really the only playable one (and Declaration decks have a hard time winning). You assemble your glass cannon in peace. LL 0-6
4. Wrath of Pie: What I built to beat. Cutthroat picks away at your life while 1 Dryad stays on defense (other in hand). If you Declaration something, I play the 2nd Dryad. Then I still have 1 deathtouch blocker and 1 attacker, so you lose. WW 6-0
5. Unlif3: The other thing I built to beat. 2 Dryads hold off your fatties while Cutthroat chips away at your life. WW 6-0
6. Tylert: We crash into each other. DD 2-2
7. H: We crash into each other. DD 2-2
8. GoblinSmashmaster: This is closer than you think. I can force the flip, but you still have 2/2 Menace and 2/2 flyer or 3/3 Menace and 1/1 flyer vs my 3 1/1s. The only reason I have a fighting chance is Skulk Lifelink, which balances it out to 3 damage each. But I lose tempo skipping a turn to do nothing, which gives you a lead in the race. See below. DL 1-4
19 points (4 wins, 7 draws, 3 losses)
FTW vs Gobbo OTD
You - Tapped land
Me - Tapped land
You - Messenger. Attack [F=19]
Me - Dryad
You - Heirloom. If you attack, I block and trade and then Cutthroat+Dryad outraces the 2/2 flyer, so you hold.
Me - Cast nothing to stop your combo. Attack [G=19]
You - Messenger flips into 2/2 Menace. Equip to 3/3 and attack. [F=17]
Me - Dryad #2 and hold
You - Wanderer. Attack into 2 Dryads. I double block to trade, otherwise I fall further behind in the race. (3 dmg vs 2)
Me - Cutthroat. I need to play this last and double block with Dryads, otherwise I miss out on Lifelink.
You - Equip Wanderer. Attack for 2 flying. [F=15]
Me - Attack for lifelink. [F=16, G=18]
You - Attack for 2 flying. [F=14]
Me - Attack for lifelink. [F=15, G=17]
...
This continues to [F=2, G=4]. Then your next hit for 2 flying kills me.
If I don't double block your 3/3 menace and attack back for 2, the life totals go
[F=14, G=17]
Then Wanderer and Cutthroat join in [F=11, G=14], [F=8, G=11]... and I still lose.
FTW vs Gobbo OTP
You can't beat me, but you can stop me from winning.
Me - Tapped land
You - Tapped land
Me - Dryad
You - Messenger. Don't attack into Dryad.
Me - Cutthroat. Attack with Dryad. [G=19]
You - Heirloom. No point in attacking to trade with Cutthroat (then I go to 21 and my 2 power outraces your 2 power).
Me - Play nothing, forcing the flip. Attack to race [G=17, F=21]
You - Messenger flips. Equip and swing for 3 menace [F=18]
Me - Dryad #2. Attack for 2. [G=15, F=19]
You - Wanderer. Attack for 3 menace. [F=16]
I'm ahead in life and tempo, so if you let my guys through to race 3 dmg vs 3 dmg, I'll win the race. If you trade Wanderer with a Dryad, it's 2 dmg vs 2 dmg and I still win the race. Your best line is to trade Wanderer with Cutthroat, which makes it 3 dmg vs 2 dmg and forces me to double block you to draw. I want to avoid that. If I just never attack with Cutthroat and you never attack with Wanderer, you have 3 dmg vs my 2 dmg and you outrace, so that's still bad for me. If I do nothing, you can equip Wanderer and attack for 2 flying and 2 menace, stealing a lead in the race no matter what I do. My only line is to use the tempo and life advantage to force you into a draw now.
Me - Attack with Cutthroat only. You trade with Wanderer. [F=17]
You - Attack with 3 menace. I can't race so I double block to draw.
DL 1-4 for me
TylerT and H don't have lifelink, so you should win both easily. 6-0 vs them
He races you because if you stop his combo he can make the flyer is 2/2....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
I only had a chance because of lifelink.
TylerT vs Gobbo
T - Dryad 1
G - Tapped land
T - Dryad 2. Attack [G=19]
G - Wanderer (no point in Messenger first since you have a blocker and can stop his combo anyway).
T - Dryad 3. Attack [G=17]
G - Messenger. Attack for 1 flying. [T=19]
T - Attack for 3 [G=14]
G - Messenger flips to 2/2 Menace. Heirloom. Attack for 1/1 flying and 2/2 menace [T=16]
T - Attack for 3 [G=11]
G - Equip Messenger. Attack for 3/3 Menace and 1/1 flying [T=12]
If you race, it goes
G=8, T=8
G=5, T=4
G=2, T=0 and you lose
T - Keep 2 Dryads on defense. Attack for 1 [G=10]
G - Attack for 3/3 Menace and 1/1 flying. You double block the 3/3 to trade. [T=11].
T - Can't block so you attack [G=9]
G - Equip Wanderer to 2/2 and attack [T=9]
You lose that race too.
Should be LL 0-6 for you.
I count at least 16 points for you! 4 wins vs the deathtouch army, WD vs me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoblinSmashmaster
Forgemaster is interesting! The 3/2 + trigger trades with the 5/5 and 4/4 fatties but also wrecks deathtouch guys, so it's just a better 2-drop.Quote:
Needle Spires, Nephalia Academy, Kessig Forgemaster, Declaration in Stone
would have gone WW against everyone except Wrath and Unlif3 (draws)!
Yeah, Forgot about the blade. But as i loose two guys, this is lost / lost for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
LOL, GoblinSmashmaster submits a deck that doesn't do what he wants it to do, but he still scores better than half the players. :cool:
Preliminary ranking for round 9
Rank. Player: Score - SP:
1. square_two: 36 - 5,1
2. Wrath of Pie: 24 - 3,4
3. FTW: 19 - 2,7
4. GoblinSmashmaster: 16 - 2,3
5. Asthereal (TO): 14 - 2
5. Tylert: 14 - 2
5. H: 14 - 2
8. Unlif3: 10 - 1,4
This doesn't change much at the top. GoblinSmashmaster maintains his lead, though Wrath of Pie comes closer. There's just 0,2 points between the leaders now.
The near perfect round by square_two means he jumps to fourth place, despite missing the first three rounds! The Source will come to fear square_two's 4CB powers.
Oh and I still carry the red lantern. Looks like I'll be holding on to that one for the remainder of the season. :tongue:
Last few rounds guys! Who will take the crown this time?
Round 10 of 4CB Season 4, The Block Tour - part 2, has started. For this round we shall play Kaladesh & Amonkhet block (Kaladesh, Aether Revolt, Amonkhet, Hour of Devastation)!
NOTE: Kaladesh Inventions and Amonkhet Invocations ("Masterpiece Series") cards are NOT legal!
They are not officially part of their respective sets and therefor not part of the blocks.
At least, that's what I have decided when I was trying to figure out what the heck was going on.
The cards do show up in Gatherer when you select their respective blocks, but adding overpowered old cards to a new block just seems stupid.
If you don't know what I'm talking about here, don't worry. You'll recognize the cards when you see them.
They look weird and are called Black Vise and Dark Ritual and so on...
Anyway, I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 10, so you can start sending me your decks.
DEADLINE: Wednesday the 11th of December, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)
PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Cinder Barrens, Sunscorched Desert, Wretched Camel, Abrade (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S04R10 in the topic.
Many of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me a lot of time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!
After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.
Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition. :smile:
Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:
Trying to get Scryfall to display only the legal cards was an actual task, because it turns out it is picky about the order, but I got it to work.
block:akh -set:mp2 OR block:kld -set:mps
MP2 and MPS are the set codes for Masterpiece sets.
There is an Advanced search feature on MKM (that I use because scryfall is blocked at work). the sets are separated from the start but you have to name all sets you want to see (no block feature).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
Thanks, I just wish there was a way to exclude tokens...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
Try this:Quote:
Originally Posted by H
(block:akh -set:mp2 OR block:kld -set:mps) -type:token -type:emblem
Still a few noncards in there, but those should be fairly obvious.
The deadline has passed, and I'm at 7 entries, so I miss one regular.
As I'm at work and I need to do a couple things, I can give our slow regular a few more hours. :wink:
And we're complete, so here we go:
DECKS FOR ROUND 10, Kaladesh & Amonkhet block (Kaladesh, Aether Revolt, Amonkhet, Hour of Devastation)
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
5. FTL: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade
1. Asthereal (TO): I Push both your creatures and you Push mine. DD 2-2
2. Wrath of Pie: I Push both your creatures before you can resolve Cartouche, then Renegade kills you. WW 6-0
3. square_two: I Push your token (CMC 0), then Renegade kills you. WW 6-0
4. H: I Push both your creatures and you Push mine. DD 2-2
6. Tylert: OTP I play Renegade first and dodge Harsh Scrutiny, but your Fatal Push still gets me. I Push your Rampager. DD 2-2
7. Unlif3: This one I can't beat. I can Push your first 2 zombies but Renegade is too slow to kill Liliana. LL 0-6
8. GoblinSmashmaster: This again. I Push both your creatures and you Push mine. DD 2-2
20 points (4 wins, 8 draws, 2 losses)
I thought about doing Pyramid ramp, but when I looked at the 5 cmc Planeswalkers, nothing seemed good enough. Liliana can't answer threats or use the minus ability. I thought 2/2 zombies wouldn't get there vs stuff like 1-mana 3/4 and 2-mana 5/4, but Cradle of the Accursed is a big help.
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
OTD T1 Land, E=1 / Cradle + Pyramid (brick=0)
T2 E=2 / Cradle#2, brick=1
T3 Greenbelt / brick=2
T4 swing, E=1 (Un.life=17) / brick=3
T5 swing, E=2 (Un.life=14) / Liliana, +1 (loyalty =6), get a 2/2
T6 second Greenbelt, first attacks Lili I guess, I don't block to get the triple block next turn, loyalty=3 / sac Cradle, +1 (loyalty=4), so 3 2/2s.
From there attacking Lili is not an option anymore even with a Push to back it up, for I triple block one, let the other one pass, loyalty is at one and I even have a second Cradle to sac.
I'm even "faster", so to say, OTP. 6-0
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
OTD T1 tapped land, / Cradle + Pyramid (brick=0)
T2 Narnam / Cradle#2, brick=1
T3 Enchantment, Un.life=18 / brick=2
T4 Hope, Un.life=15 / brick=3
T5 Un.life=11 / Lili ? (you can delay me for a turn by saccing Hope) +1, (loyalty =6), get a 2/2
"Race" plan is a dead end for T6 Token is kept at bay by the 2/2, Un.life=8 / sac Cradle, lili +1 (loyalty 7) and from there I have too much bodies on the ground and Lili is threatening the ult
"Shoot Lili" plan seems unlikely to go anywhere for only the hope can fly above the slowly growing zonbie horde ; 6-0 ?
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge
Well, I didn't think this would see play for Fatal Push is a card, but a card I'm not playing so... this at least works against me. 0-6 I guess.
OTD T1 Land, E=1 / Cradle + Pyramid (brick=0)
T2 E=2 / Cradle#2, brick=1
T3 Greenbelt / brick=2
T4 swing, E=1 (Un.life=17) / brick=3
T5 swing, E=2 (Un.life=14) / Liliana, +1 (loyalty =6), get a 2/2
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
See Asthereal. 6-0
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade
I don't really care about Push and this isn't a clock. 6-0
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager
Harsh Scrutiny is a blank, from there it can only get worse than Asthereal. 6-0
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty
That's me, with a good deck?
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
See Asthereal 6-0
Total = 36 points, shy from the sweep due to a flying Snake (Coatl is that you?)
Asthereal results for round 10:
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
That's me, sporting the easiest deck. I'm not alone, I see. :tongue:
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
Renegade gets Pushed, and a 1/1 and a 2/2 don't beat or race my two 3/4s, I think. 6-0
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge
Push your RLS token, my guys win it. 6-0
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
Mirror draws. 2-2
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade
We Push eachothers dudes. 2-2
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager
We Push eachothers dude, and you Scrutinize my other dude. 2-2
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty
You race me. I completely overlooked Pyramid. Cool deck! 0-6
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
Mirror draws. 2-2
Total: 20 points
I think Wrath has a better chance than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlif3
If he puts Cartouche on Hope (2/2 flying), he can eventually kill Liliana and you can never ult, or he can try to race for 2 in the air.
If he puts Cartouche on Narnam, it's a 2/3 deathtouch first strike, meaning you would need 4 2/2 zombie tokens to block and kill it. Until you have 4 zombies, he gets to attack Liliana with both Narnam and Hope, either taking off 3 counters per turn or forcing you to chump with a zombie.
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge
Maybe I haven't been in a block set with as good as removal as Push. I created something that would beat creature discard (Harsh Scrutiny) but left myself completely open to Push.
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
LL
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
WW
Think my giant flyer gets there.
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
LL
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade
LL
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager
LL
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty
WW
Cradle is great add for that deck! I missed that when considering Lily.
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push
LL
12 points
Aaha. I don't know why i only considered Tezzeret or Confiscation coup as playables with pyramid ramp :)
There were many good creatures in this round including 4/3 First strike for two that were unplayable because of 1 mana discard and removal spells :)
High power format :)
Seing that so few people are playing harsh scrutiny, i should have played Glorybringer or angel of sanction ramp :)
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge LL
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade LL
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager LL
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty LL
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
That's a sweep!
People do play removal. It's just that Land, Land, Removal, Bear is usually not a good deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
Ayli Arrows worked because that format had bad removal and most people built to beat 2 Lupine Prototype.
1 mana removal is just great. Allows you to play 3 cards, instead of two. For next blocks if you see a good one mana removal, just suppose that it will be played :)Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
1. Asthereal (TO): Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
2. Wrath of Pie: Scattered Groves, Narnam Renegade, Cartouche of Solidarity, Hope of Ghirapur
3. square_two: Botanical Sanctum, Forest, Rhonas's Last Stand, Cartouche of Knowledge LL
4. H: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
5. FTW: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Fatal Push, Narnam Renegade LL
6. Tylert: Blooming Marsh, Fatal Push, Harsh Scrutiny, Greenbelt Rampager LL
7. Unlif3: Cradle of the Accursed, Cradle of the Accursed, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Liliana, Death's Majesty LL
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Blooming Marsh, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenbelt Rampager, Fatal Push LL
1. Asthereal: 2-2 --> 2
2 Wrath of Pie: T1 = Marsh, discard hope. Groves, Renegade.
T2 = Fatal push renegade and win.
OTD: T1 = Groves, renegade (or hope). Marsh, i discard whatever is left in your hand.
T2 = cartouche. I push whatever has cartouche on. and win with my 3/4.
6-0 --> 8
3. square_two: I push the 5/4 whenever you cast it and win. 6-0 --> 14
4. H: 2-2 --> 16
5. FTW: 2-2 --> 18
6. ME.
7. Unlif3: 0-6. cant pressure liliana enough. --> 18.
8. GoblinSmashmaster: 2-2 --> 20
Total 20. I should definitely have played cradle, cradle, pyramid, glorybringer, but i feared harsh scrutiny :(
Indeed you should have. The card's called Glorybringer for a reason. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
EDIT: never mind. This remark was stupid.
With that out of the way, it's time to present the standings for round 10.
Oh wait, someone already did all of the work in the Google spreadsheet.
Thank you. :smile:
Unlif3 takes the round with a close to perfect score. This great score also allows him to jump to second place in the season ranking. Well done!
Five players scored the same and ended up sharing second place for the round. Season ranking remains close, so with two rounds to go, anything's possible:
1. GoblinSmashmaster: 31,4
2. Unlif3: 28,4
3. Wrath of Pie: 28,3
4. H: 25,5
5. FTW: 25,4
6. square_two: 24,4
7. Tylert: 23,2
8. Asthereal (TO): 20,5
Okay, I'm out, but theororetically, even Tylert can still win the season.
Harsh ScrutinyQuote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
Only TylerT played it, but it was the #1 card stopping creature ramp and why planeswalker ramp was safer.
LOL I'm too busy. Anything not precisely literal goes over my head. :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Penultimate round. Let's go!
PS. Apologies for being late. I was gone a few days and this block is weird.
Round 11 of 4CB Season 4, The Block Tour - part 2, has started. For this round we shall play Guilds of Ravnica block (Guilds of Ravnica, Ravnica Allegiance, War of the Spark)!
NOTE: Again "Masterpiece" cards are NOT legal!
In this case, this means entering the normal version of the sets in the Gatherer, instead of the Mythic Edition.
Anyway, I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 11, so you can start sending me your decks.
DEADLINE: Wednesday the 18th of December, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)
PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Plains, Hunted Witness, Righteous Blow, Demotion (so with card tags around each card, and not above eachother), with your Username and 4CB S04R11 in the topic.
Many of you already do this. Thanks a lot, this really saves me a lot of time and hassle of copying and pasting text and tags!
After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.
Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition. :smile:
Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:
A little under 24 hours until the deadline, and I'm at four entries. Don't forget to send your deck! :wink:
I'm on vacation, but I will send something in shortly.
The deadline has passed but I'm missing one of the regulars.
I'll be doing some work stuff the next couple of hours, so I can give you a bit more time.
Don't wait too long though. :wink:
And the last deck arrived, so here we go:
DECKS FOR ROUND 11, Guilds of Ravnica block (Guilds of Ravnica, Ravnica Allegiance, War of the Spark)
1. Asthereal (TO): Godless Shrine, Forest, Emmara, Soul of the Accord, Assassin's Trophy
2. Wrath of Pie: Sacred Foundry, Healer's Hawk, Grim Initiate, Gird for Battle
3. Tylert: Swamp, Swamp, Vicious rumors, Dreadhorde invasion
4. square_two: Plains, Healer's Hawk, Healer's Hawk, Sky Tether
5. H: Blood Crypt, Grim Initiate, Grim Initiate, Vicious Rumors
6. FTW: Plains, Sky Tether, Sky Tether, Healer's Hawk
7. Unlif3: Plains, Charmed Stray, Charmed Stray, Charmed Stray
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Overgrown Tomb, Swamp, Dreadhorde Invasion, Assassin's Trophy
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
PS1. For next round our deadline would be at Christmas, which might be tough on some of us. I'll move it to the weekend between Christmas and New Year's Eve.
PS2. Since the season's about to come to a close, we need to start thinking about next season. What would you guys like to play?
My vote goes to Modern with a couple of obnixious cards banned at the start (probably just the baned list from season 1), and then after each round banning the winning deck for future rounds.
What do you guys think? Should be fun? Or would you like to play something else? Let me know!
Asthereal's results for round 11:
1. Asthereal (TO): Godless Shrine, Forest, Emmara, Soul of the Accord, Assassin's Trophy
That's me.
2. Wrath of Pie: Sacred Foundry, Healer's Hawk, Grim Initiate, Gird for Battle
OTP I blow up your land, and Emma wins. OTD I can still blow up your land, but I can also blow up the first striker and Emma still wins it, as she makes a 1/1 dude before you can block. 6-0
3. Tylert: Swamp, Swamp, Vicious rumors, Dreadhorde invasion
This is tough. I think all I have is dicarding Emma and killing your threat with Trophy. 2-2
4. square_two: Plains, Healer's Hawk, Healer's Hawk, Sky Tether
Emma beats two 1/1 creatures, so I can use Trophy to stop you from Tethering Emma. 6-0
5. H: Blood Crypt, Grim Initiate, Grim Initiate, Vicious Rumors
Emma would die to the double block, but you can't attack either, or I get to add 1/1s to my team. So if I discard Trophy to Rumors, I guess we draw both? 2-2
6. FTW: Plains, Sky Tether, Sky Tether, Healer's Hawk
If you make Hawk, I can Trophy your land, so you just wait for me, and when I cast Emma, you Tether her. I can Trophy something, but your second Tether plus Hawk should be able to secure the draws. 2-2
7. Unlif3: Plains, Charmed Stray, Charmed Stray, Charmed Stray
I thought about playing the Strays. They're fun! :) But my deck is a tad better, I think. OTP I Trophy your land before you make the second Stray. Emma wins it. OTD you get to a 2/2 and a 1/1 Stray, which is just enough to stop Emma and the 1/1 she makes when she attacks into the 2/2 Stray. 4-1
8. GoblinSmashmaster: Overgrown Tomb, Swamp, Dreadhorde Invasion, Assassin's Trophy
The first to play a second land Trophies the land of the other player and then rides his threat to victory. 3-3
Total: 25 points
6. FTW: Plains, Sky Tether, Sky Tether, Healer's Hawk
Oops, I didn't think through Assassin's Trophy before submitting my deck.
1. Asthereal (TO): If I play Hawk, you Trophy my land (so I can't Tether) and win with Emmara. Instead I do nothing. If you play Emmara, I Tether her. If you Trophy the Tether, I Tether her again and win with flying Hawk, so you must Trophy my land and draw. DD 2-2
2. Wrath of Pie: I Tether both your creatures. Then my Hawk gets there. WW 6-0
3. Tylert: OTD I discard a Tether to Vicious Rumors. Then I play Hawk. You play Dreadhorde. I Tether your Army, so it keeps amassing but can never attack. Hawk and Dreadhorde slowly kill you. OTP I'm even faster. WW 6-0
4. square_two: LOL nice deck. A bunch of Tethered Hawks stare at each other. DD 2-2
5. H: I discard one Tether to Vicious Rumors and Tether 1 Initiate. Healer's Hawk outraces the other Initiate thanks to Lifelink. WW 6-0
7. Unlif3: OTP I play Hawk. You play Stray. I Tether it and attack. You play another Stray. I Tether it and attack. You play the 3rd Stray. Even though I'm ahead in the race and have evasion, 1/1 lifelinks cannot race... They net 0 damage. We end up both stuck at the same life total forever. DD 2-2
8. GoblinSmashmaster: If I play Hawk, you trophy my land (so I can't Tether) and the amassing Army kills me. Instead I do nothing. If you play Dreadhorde, I wait until you have an Army token, then I play Plains and Tether it. If you Trophy the Tether, I Tether it again and play Hawk and win. If you Trophy my land, the Army can't attack and Dreadhorde kills you. Both of us lose by doing something, so instead we do nothing. DD 2-2.
26 points (6 wins, 8 draws, 0 losses)