Magic Origins

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Originally Posted by MGB

Remember that Magmatic Insight is uncastable if you don't have lands in your hand.

So it's basically an epically bad topdeck in a land-light deck.

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That's why u always keep a land in hand, for this and Cursed Scroll.

EDIT: and obv to fake a removal spell.

I'm not sure what the MTG set equivalent of Blood on the Tracks is, but this set is looking like it deserves "best Dylan album since Blood on the Tracks" kind of praise.

Magmatic Insight is a terrible card.

And remember that I told you so when you discover that Abbot of Keral Keep is expensive and you did not pick any up early.

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Originally Posted by Lemnear

Why would you blow things up anymore if you can drop Siege Rhinos in the face of Delver and shit? Sweeping was good to gain time till you topdeck a fatty or GSZ or SDT, but with Leap that's no longer an issue

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Deed still hits more than just creatures, but with Decay around you may be right. It was a lot better when Maverick was a DTB, since you could deal with the equipment, the Knight, and all the little support guys at the same time. Still pretty good against D&T for those reasons, but Explorer invalidates practically half of that deck.

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Originally Posted by Scott

I'm not sure what the MTG set equivalent of Blood on the Tracks is, but this set is looking like it deserves "best Dylan album since Blood on the Tracks" kind of praise.

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This set looks like the best standalone set since Ravnica: City of Guilds. Plenty of fringe playable cards with no obvious preexisting analogues.

Edit: Wait, Time Spiral was the best set since Ravnica. God that was such a clutch standard. Anyhow set is good. I approve.

I agree the set is looking pretty good, especially after the underwhelming start. Lots of interesting cards.

My personal favorite is probably Evolutionary Leap. So much potential. Speaking of Leap, how about token producers and Gaea's Cradle?

Tragic Arrogance
3WW
Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents he or she controls.

Anyway to actually cast this in Legacy?

It's a more expensive cataclysm that doesn't kill planeswalkers.

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Originally Posted by Finn

You guys should all look again at Abbot of Kher Keep. That card looks to me like a winner in Burn or similar pure aggro. There is nothing whatsoever in red that has card advantage as good and as cheap.

Here, look:

Abbot of Keral Keep
1 R
Creature - Human Monk
Prowess
When Abbot of Keral Keep enters the battlefield, exile the top card of your library. Until end of turn, you may play that card.
2/1

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I mean, essentially it's a 2/1 that can grow bigger that cantrips, all for only two mana.

Definitely going to be a Type 2 powerhouse and maybe more.

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Originally Posted by Infinitium

This set looks like the best standalone set since Ravnica: City of Guilds. Plenty of fringe playable cards with no obvious preexisting analogues.

Edit: Wait, Time Spiral was the best set since Ravnica. God that was such a clutch standard. Anyhow set is good. I approve.

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Super agree. I like the mechanics, love the reprints, dig the flavor and it looks a ton of fun to draft! They reprinted Goblin Piledriver, awesome! A ton of cool looking elves and a Sylvan Messenger reprint too. And there are really pushed cards like Day's Undoing and Dark Petition. Even something like Goblin Glory Chaser is freaking awesome, best one-drop this side of Goblin Guide. So good.

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Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE

Eh, pod builds often trim them already and if there is another great reason to not run them it's definitely a justifiable cut. There has to be some configuration of toxic deluge, maelstrom pulse, and decay that is playable without deed.

The new red draw spell is awesome too. I'm going to be playing it in modern loam pox for sure.

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Replacing Faithless looting possibly? Its a way to depend slightly less on graveyard synergy I guess. If it were an instant to save loam it would be infinitely better.

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Originally Posted by firebadmattgood

It's a more expensive cataclysm that doesn't kill planeswalkers.

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True, but unlike Cataclysm, they do not choose which card they keep from each type, so they get the worst option for each category, while you get your best...

So you get plays like Keep the 1/1 elemental, sac you pyromancer and delver, I will keep my gofy and sac the rest...

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

Tragic Arrogance
3WW
Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents he or she controls.

Anyway to actually cast this in Legacy?

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Doesn't hit lands though which was such a huge plus for Cataclysm.

Red draw spell:

http://www.cardkingdom.com/media/ima...d/201770_1.jpg

It's very conditional in a format that has a habit of running on the leanest mana margins it can. I am happy it exists but I feel it's unlikely to do much.

How is this card different to the one we're already talking about?

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It's not. If there's anything to be learned during spoiler season, it's that people do not actually read the thread they are posting in and throw the same damn card in it without realizing it's already been a discussion topic for the last two pages.

I know it's spoiler season and everyone is excited but so far I see one legacy playable: Dark Petition.

Anyone that is thinking Nic Fit is "coming back" or Tezzerator will be good, due to some of these cards, is fooling themselves.

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Originally Posted by kirkusjones

http://cdn.magicspoiler.com/wp-conte...ic-Insight.png
This seems cool with life from the loam.

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In LED Dredge this is better than Faithless perhaps?

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Originally Posted by aluisiocsantos

In LED Dredge this is better than Faithless perhaps?

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B/c this one works so much better with LED..? Yeah, LED Dredge would probably be thrilled to get rid of "crack LED, discard hand, flashback Looting, dredge twice".

You can't even use it to discard dredgers stuck in your hand, another thing Looting does do.