Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Bed Decks Palyer
I'd still love if people stop calling the "unwillingness to adapt" and "tiredness of shitty design" the same.
Mate I have been playing this format since its creation. I have adapted over the years as the game rose and fell away again. Then to watch it rise with SCG and see my decks triple in value. I have changed, I have built new decks as my goblins faded, I have had fun over the years. But this guy, he is not fun. I do not have fun with him on the table. If more cards like him are in the pipeline, then I shall go where the fun is. I am willing to adapt, I am not willing to play with shitty design.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Dice_Box
Mate I have been playing this format since its creation. I have adapted over the years as the game rose and fell away again. Then to watch it rise with SCG and see my decks triple in value. I have changed, I have built new decks as my goblins faded, I have had fun over the years. But this guy, he is not fun. I do not have fun with him on the table. If more cards like him are in the pipeline, then I shall go where the fun is. I am willing to adapt, I am not willing to play with shitty design.
I'm not sure if you understood me well. My post that you quoted was not targeted at you or people like you. It was targeted at those like deadpool9 who have reading troubles.
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I'd still love if people stop calling the "unwillingness to adapt" and "tiredness of shitty design" the same."
I'd love if people like braindead9 noticed that I testified that I'm tired of shitty design, not unwilling to adapt, and then I'd love if they'd ceased to call my tiredness of shitty design with words "unwillingness to adapt". Is it better now?
Also, this thread if beyond stupid.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Bed Decks Palyer
Also, this thread if beyond stupid.
It reminds me of mtg salvation.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
I love the fact that I got a lot of hate when I said people are lazy and not willing to adapt. I seemed to strike a lot of nerves, to the point that people started calling each other oh so mean names. For what it's worth, I do agree this thread is becoming stupider. If it gets banned, I wouldn't care, I play decks that have tnn, I play decks that don't either.
I like the fact how they justify their stance on tnn. "Im not lazy, I'm open to adapt, I just think its a terrible design"
Yeah so is emrakul, progen, and griselbrand. Which when it resolves, your interactions with are minimal, and chances of winning against it is slim. Though i know you have to invest alot onactually cheating them into play, buts a trade of you have to accept if ou wanna play a deck that wins on turn 5 or less. But decks that play tnn,you can interact with it on bunch of other ways if you really can't beat a 3/1 progen. It's not a 2 or 3 turn clock. Btw, I love it when people quote just a part of what someone wrote, so they can make them look bad. Ignoring the majority of the post so that they can nit pick a certain line they want to emphasize , just like " brain dead" bill o reilly and fox news. Anyone else wanna hate?
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I use the word haters when i want to convince myself that i am not that stupid:wink:.
TNN has caught up on the top 20 most played cards. TNNblade is atm the most placing deck. Sneak Attack is second but SnT does not break the top 20 MPCs.
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Thing is mate, while we are here we are adapting. Guess which one of my decks I have picked up of late, Fish. The deck I think has the best chance of being hyper competitive in these changing times. So yea, we can adapt, we do. I have rebuilt my Fish deck 3 times since Progenifish was printed adding in things like Sygg over Standstill and more maindeck Dismember for Stoneforge. I am adapting. We all do.
Oh and the hate you are getting mate, it's not because of what you have to say, but how you have decided to say it.
Sent from mobile, forgive spelling and grammatical errors.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Deadpool09
I love the fact that I got a lot of hate when I said people are lazy and not willing to adapt. I seemed to strike a lot of nerves, to the point that people started calling each other oh so mean names.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
- Being a prick on the internet because you can.. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.
- The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue.
- Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery
Edit: On another note, adapting could be applicable if you are on the opposite side of TNN and having problems beating the card. The argument is completely NULL when you play stoneblade decks yourself. So in my stoneblade deck I have to not be lazy and adapt... by shoving in 3 TNNs and calling it a day? Easy peasy! This adapt argument is basically an act of trolling at this point because the discussion had gone past that about 20 pages ago.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
Can't they just errata this guy so he only works as intended in Commander? This way they wouldn't have to ban him in any format, but his obnoxious invincibility would be neutered.
Something like changing the card text to:
As True-Name Nemesis enters the battlefield, name a commander. True-Name Nemesis has protection from that commander's controller.
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Anyone have data for ISD-RTR-M13 Standard? Because I remember that Thragtusk was a widely played card back then, yet it promoted several distinct archetypes that weren't viable due to Zombies as a deck dominating before.
My point? Well, TNN as a card is seeing a lot of usage, yet it isn't promoting just one archetype, but rather several.
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You're really comparing Standard to an Eternal format?
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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menace13
I use the word haters when i want to convince myself that i am not that stupid:wink:.
TNN has caught up on the top 20 most played cards. TNNblade is atm the most placing deck. Sneak Attack is second but SnT does not break the top 20 MPCs.
Just curious where you're getting your data on them being the most placing decks?
Per TheCouncil, currently we have Sneaky Show, BUG Control, and RUG as the top 3 decks.
Also, the data for this month will be off since they included the T8 of the Invitationals into the results, so all of those decks should really have -16 points or -8 points depending on how TheCouncil gave them points (I didn't see anywhere on there how many we're given for each deck). Jund should lose double the points due to two of the T8 playing it.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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MGB
Can't they just errata this guy so he only works as intended in Commander? This way they wouldn't have to ban him in any format, but his obnoxious invincibility would be neutered.
Something like changing the card text to:
As True-Name Nemesis enters the battlefield, name a commander. True-Name Nemesis has protection from that commander's controller.
This is equivalent to banning him. You just use a different word so the scrub cooties stay away.
Not that it's an option on the table anyway, they don't use errata like that anymore.
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Higgs
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
- Being a prick on the internet because you can.. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.
- The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue.
- Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery
Edit: On another note, adapting could be applicable if you are on the opposite side of TNN and having problems beating the card. The argument is completely NULL when you play stoneblade decks yourself. So in my stoneblade deck I have to not be lazy and adapt... by shoving in 3 TNNs and calling it a day? Easy peasy! This adapt argument is basically an act of trolling at this point because the discussion had gone past that about 20 pages ago.
I clearly stated, I play decks with tnn, and withouth tnn. So I have both perspective.
I tried to be careful with my words here. Ever since I said the words adapting, and being flexible, people went to go on calling people names. So uhmmmm, yeah. Try again, prove it how much of a hater/ignorant you guys are but not reading my statements
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Arsenal
You're really comparing Standard to an Eternal format?
I'm done here. Your ignorant crusade to get TNN banned in Legacy has stopped being funny and has become quite sad.
And for the record, I was comparing one widely-used, hard-to-remove creature card in Standard to one widely-used, hard-to-remove creature card in Legacy.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Deadpool09
I clearly stated, I play decks with tnn, and withouth tnn. So I have both perspective.
I tried to be careful with my words here. Ever since I said the words adapting, and being flexible, people went to go on calling people names. So uhmmmm, yeah. Try again, prove it how much of a hater/ignorant you guys are but not reading my statements
Mate we are reading what your saying. The issue with you is not what you are saying but your harsh and aggressive delivery. If you would tone back on the aggression and on the bravado you would find people here quite willing to engage with you. Maybe not agree with you but still engage in meaningful discourse on the issues you would like to rase.
In short, don't act like a dick and see where that gets you.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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MGB
Can't they just errata this deadpool09 guy?
I'd rather ban him.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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EpicLevelCommoner
I'm done here. Your ignorant crusade to get TNN banned in Legacy has stopped being funny and has become quite sad.
And for the record, I was comparing one widely-used, hard-to-remove creature card in Standard to one widely-used, hard-to-remove creature card in Legacy.
I just wanted to be clear that you were comparing a card that rotates into obscurity after a few months to a card that is forever. Good job.
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Nice sig bro. Too bad it only reinforces how ignorant you really are regarding the matter.
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Um, you're comparing a once-Standard creature that could be, you know, interacted with in combat and targeted, to an Eternal creature that can't be interacted with in combat and can't be targeted. And you're calling me "ignorant"? I don't even have words, but you apparently have enough for the both of us. And you're right, you are done here.
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Esper, I thought HSCK mentioned something about using a different data source than thecouncil? I've always used it, as many others have, but apparently it isn't valid? I think that if we're going to be citing data, all of us should agree on using the same reference. If there's a more comprehensive and expansive database than thecouncil, let's use that instead.
Re: Would you like to see True-Name Nemesis gone?
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Arsenal
Um, you're comparing a once-Standard creature that could be, you know, interacted with in combat and targeted, to an Eternal creature that can't be interacted with in combat and can't be targeted. And you're calling me "ignorant"? I don't even have words, but you apparently have enough for the both of us. And you're right, you are done here.
Still sad, still ignorant, still you.
Like I said, Thragtusk was a widely played card during its time in standard that, shockingly enough, promoted several distinct archetypes as a result of its use. True-Name Nemesis is no different in Legacy, even if you refuse to acknowledge so.
