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Onslaught was also never considered a goddamn land theme set.

If you make a mechanic part of your theme, you should have a disproportionate representation of that. Ravnica had a shitton of gold cards, Lorwyn had a shitton of gold cards, Mirrodin had a shitton of artifacts.

Zendikar, so far, has a slightly larger sprinkling of lands than normal. Lame.


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So as to preemptively soothe Adam's raging vagina, I think the rest of the set looks awesome. I was just looking forward to the largely untapped area of nonbasic lands that do shit besides fix mana to be explored in more depth.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Zendikar, so far, has a slightly larger sprinkling of lands than normal.

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yes, but it has a "shitton" of land-based cards, like tyler said.

From what i understand, Zendikar and Worldwake are land-themed, but the third set is not. MaRo said its going to have its own theme, as well as be a large set to flex the new ideas.

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Originally Posted by Nihil Credo

Sensei-Style Obsidian Fireheart
1rrr
Creature - Elemental Mythic Rare
1{R}{R}: Put a blaze counter on target land without a blaze counter on it. That land gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, this land deals 1 damage to you".
4/4

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Worded like this, you could not prevent the land from "burning" by removing/moving the counters.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Onslaught was also never considered a goddamn land theme set.

If you make a mechanic part of your theme, you should have a disproportionate representation of that. Ravnica had a shitton of gold cards, Lorwyn had a shitton of gold cards, Mirrodin had a shitton of artifacts.

Zendikar, so far, has a slightly larger sprinkling of lands than normal. Lame.


eta:

So as to preemptively soothe Adam's raging vagina, I think the rest of the set looks awesome. I was just looking forward to the largely untapped area of nonbasic lands that do shit besides fix mana to be explored in more depth.

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Don't look at me, duder. I agree.

Also, there's a bunch of tigers on the preview card today. That pretty much seals it for me as best set of Magic ever.

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Originally Posted by Maveric78f

Worded like this, you could not prevent the land from "burning" by removing/moving the counters.

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I acknowledged that this "hoses" Hexmaster. But for every way of removing nonspecific counters from permanents, there are sixteen ways of just bouncing/trading that permanent. Unless there's a whole "blaze counters" sub-mechanic that we weren't told about, it just seems a cleaner solution.

I don't think you need a bunch of new lands. The theme isn't "the land set," it's the "land matters" set. Think of it this way: every time you draw what would otherwise have been a "dead land," that land now does something interesting.

That said, I expect to see more lands of the type IBA is looking for in the rest of the block, and will be similarly disappointed if they're not there.

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Originally Posted by MattH

I don't think you need a bunch of new lands. The theme isn't "the land set," it's the "land matters" set. Think of it this way: every time you draw what would otherwise have been a "dead land," that land now does something interesting.

That said, I expect to see more lands of the type IBA is looking for in the rest of the block, and will be similarly disappointed if they're not there.

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I like the cycle of rare lands, they remind me of the Shizo cycle from COK. I like lands that have basically no downside. I am curious that these rare lands name specific locations, but are not legendary. I thought the Uncle Istvan phenomenon was over...

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Originally Posted by hi-val

I am curious that these rare lands name specific locations, but are not legendary.

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The best explanation I can concoct would be that these lands are vast, and need more than one card to represent them. Like Emeria, we see a guy repelling off of some floating cliff-side, and in the background, we see more of these floating crags. That crypt card too, the door looks enormous, so I imagine the crypt itself might rival Khazad Dum. I don't know, that's just how I explain those cards to myself...when I'm alone...and drinking...and yelling at the tv...

Luminarch Ascension looks somewhat exploitable in a psudo stax shell. White stax has the tools to stall an opponent for four turns, after that the angles can either defend further, feed smokestack, or attack.

Looks like a real flush of new cards has made it's impact.

And my B/G deck takes shape more and more... hehe.

Any thoughts on Ob Nixilis? I think he could be abusable with Korlash. The whole Landfall-shit could be exploited with Korlash.

They couldn't make a set laoded upwith lands unless they jsut made a bunch of manalands, otherwise the set would probably really suck for drafting.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Onslaught was also never considered a goddamn land theme set.

If you make a mechanic part of your theme, you should have a disproportionate representation of that. Ravnica had a shitton of gold cards, Lorwyn had a shitton of gold cards, Mirrodin had a shitton of artifacts.

Zendikar, so far, has a slightly larger sprinkling of lands than normal. Lame.


eta:

So as to preemptively soothe Adam's raging vagina, I think the rest of the set looks awesome. I was just looking forward to the largely untapped area of nonbasic lands that do shit besides fix mana to be explored in more depth.

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Hybrid isn't gold?

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

They couldn't make a set laoded upwith lands unless they jsut made a bunch of manalands, otherwise the set would probably really suck for drafting.

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Meh. Manlands, anyone?

I think a block with only lands could be fun. Every land has a CIP-ability which costs mana and then either does a something (some have flash, so they represent instants) and some become creatures.

You know what could have been a cool idea, a land with flash, something like:

Flash Land
Land
Flash
This comes into play tapped.
T:Add 1 to your mana pool.

It would probably need another drawback. But I do like how it can reward you for going second.

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

You know what could have been a cool idea, a land with flash, something like:

Flash Land
Land
Flash
This comes into play tapped.
T:Add 1 to your mana pool.

It would probably need another drawback. But I do like how it can reward you for going second.

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Legendary?

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Originally Posted by Fons

Legendary?

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They did something like that with Gemstone Caverns or whatever it was in Time Spiral. Granted, that one could potentially tap for colored mana, but...

The set name "Worldwake" and hints by Rosewater in his article on Monday lead me to believe that our manlands will be in the second set. But really, there's only so much they can do to make a manland interesting.

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Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies

The set name "Worldwake" and hints by Rosewater in his article on Monday lead me to believe that our manlands will be in the second set. But really, there's only so much they can do to make a manland interesting.

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Like:

Supermanland

Tap: Add :1: to your mana pool.

3: Supermanland become a colorless golem creature until end of turn with power and toughness equal to the number of lands you have in play.

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Originally Posted by Sanguine Voyeur

Luminarch Ascension looks somewhat exploitable in a psudo stax shell. White stax has the tools to stall an opponent for four turns, after that the angles can either defend further, feed smokestack, or attack.

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It's also worth considering that Time Vault Island lets you do some crazy stuff with Tangle Wire and Smokestack. Slamming a Ghostly Prison and then Vaulting your opponent a turn would put two counters on Luminarch Ascension. Perhaps there could be a UW Stax deck...

I had that same idea. The combination of the new blue land and that enchant player may allow for a properly equipped deck to function.

EDIT: Shit, I'm interested in Magic again.