I'm curious about the inclusion of Wing Shards. I wonder how well it worked out for him.
BFT as a 1-drop is another idea that I believe is worth considering as a meta-pick in a zoo/goblins heavy meta.
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I'm curious about the inclusion of Wing Shards. I wonder how well it worked out for him.
BFT as a 1-drop is another idea that I believe is worth considering as a meta-pick in a zoo/goblins heavy meta.
wing shards i think is against progenitals and aggrodecks, not sure though
BFT does really seem ike an interesting inclusion for the mainboard, but I myself have never really feared red decks that much.
Its great against Goblins, Agro Loam, Zoo (with apes), Progenitus, Ichorid and more ofcourse.. I guess its ok to play it mainboard if your meta full of the decks mentioned..
Well, I think I am moving my Canonists to the Sideboard, they were just subpar tonight for the last time. I am also consider finally replacing my Figures for Moms, but I gotta ask: how have Kitchen Finks worked for the players that use them? My Meta (s) seem to be becoming increasingly more and more aggro based.
Finn's 5k report is up.
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...ead.php?17050-[REPORT]-5K-Orlando
Seems maindeck Forge-Tender was not such a strange choice after all.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...1&d=1270181048
I think you guys just had a field day. This shit kicks ass. Whats gonna get cut for it? You can find 2 with Rangers of Eos too.
EDIT:
Nvm, its good, but not as great as I thought it was. I had no idea it started at Level 0.
Actually, I think this is really what Death and Taxes needs right now. It's a much better equipment carrier than BFT and Isamaru, and is another late game finisher. If you have nothing else to do, attacking with a 3/3 first strike on turn 2 is still great. You can also Vial him in turn 2 and pump. And lastly, a mana sink if we really get flooded, though I find that with all the equipment, we sometimes don't have too much mana just laying around. Unfortunately, 3/3 still dies to bolt and we can't keep mana open to play Swords and stuff.
Well its better in what context? BFT is certainly better when you are dealing with Burn. Its irrelevant if you are dealing with PTE or STP.
Its easier to get it to a 3/3 First Strike than it is to get Figure to a 4/4. The great thing when comparing him to Figure is that you can always use extra mana to get him to 7 faster unlike Figure which is a much bigger mana sink. In that sense, you can afford to play many non-basics like Wasteland and Port without having to get to 5 plains just to make him huge.
I think its worth noting, though, that saving him with Flickerwisp makes him lose his counters. :/
But it is another creature that NEEDS to be removed, unlike BFT. Greater threat density while maintaining the curve of this deck is important. At level two, it still kills all of Zoo's smaller creatures.
I still like BFT as a sideboard card. There are matchups where it shines and others where its just a 1/1. Finn did take 14th place at SCG Orlando, but he said in his report he was dissatisfied with it. I think we should test this out. Vacrix, get MWS working already!
I'm a bit sceptical about Level-Uppers for just one reason: it's sorcery-speed ability.
You can't leave open mana and Vial 'em at EOT and pump immideately.
DnT has some problems with Zoo and Zoo runs 10+ instant removal spells, so you will most often just sink your mana into nothing. That's why Figure is not that good against Zoo and this new guy will be even worse.
Also, try Goldmeadow Harrier. That little kithkin is so much needed equalizer against bigger creatures. He do that in both defensive and offensive ways (it doesn't matter for him if you tap dangerous attacker or huge blocker) and he do it early. I think versatility is the reason I like the cards so much.
I've had a lot of success with Goldmeadow Harrier. It helps against most decks that run a few dedicated large beasticks. It also taps blockers so our equipment bearer can swing. What are everyone's opinions on True Believer as a SB card? I've found that it helps against combo and paradoxically monoblack.
I've played with True Believer against Burn with great success, its a great addition to Cannonist from the board, especially if you get Mom down. I guess it would be pretty good against mono-black. I haven't really run into that much though. Its a pretty low Tier deck IMO.
I mainly run it as anti-combo, so that I have 3 maindeck hosers and I can bring in another 6 from the SB. But I decided to side in True believers as a test, because I won g1 and could still come back g3. Turns out that a lot of mono-black decks seem to have discarded some targeted removal in favor of sacrifice effects, which made it all the more efficient.
True Believers are good. Stops almost all discard spell, a good portion of combos, etc etc etc. Honestly, since I have been playing the deck 3-4 have always been in my Sideboard even when others question why.
Goldmeadow seems interesting, but I just can't seem to make myself purchase them for some reason.....
Goldmeadow Harriers are cheap, but I wouldn't order them by themselves. If you happen to be ordering other stuff, you could just stick it on top. They're what? A quarter each at most?
Hi guys,
on the subject of "Goldmeadow Harrier":
While I find him descent I feel he isnīt needed as much as other cards that could take his slot. He taps away blockers and big attacking guys. Mother does basically the same. Flickerwisp can take out blockers as well. Swords, O-Ring and Mangara all deal with creatures permanently. I donīt think itīs hard to connect with equipments due to the flying ability several creatures have. I also feel that 8 cc1 drops is enough. Goldmeadow Harrier also lacks being a threat by himself.
Other cards that can go in his spot: Canonist; BFT; Kitchen Finks or some new Level Up dude.......
At the moment I am playing 3 Canonists maindeck and find him:
a) easy to cast
b) just fast enough for dealing ok with combos, sometimes stealing G1
c) a body of 2/2 is an ok beater
d) really shines against a lot of controldecks and stuff like Enchantress, Elves, (Burn); Discard-Decks.....
I feel that D&Tīs power is based on the versatility of the cards included and the curve being well trimmed from cc1 to cc3 making this deck incredible resiliant to aggro and control and not beiing hopeless against combo.
Just my 0.02 $
Harrier does one thing no other card in here does on its own... Hold off Iona till you can karakas her out of play..... That said, I think a few deserve the slots in the maindeck....
That's also true. So far, I believe the common opinion is that Harrier is worth it as a 2-3 of. I wouldn't run more than that though.
Wow. So I was gonna build this deck right before around the time of the M10 rules changes, and I decided not to when combat damage decided to no longer use the stack. I basically thought it was going to kill the archetype.
Now I kinda want to build it again, since it's really the only viable deck that's close to White Weenie, and I just checked the price of Karakas: let's just say this deck no longer seems so budget friendly anymore. Ugh. I own zero Karakas, and a few months ago I probably could have gotten a playset easily for less than the price of one single copy. Lame.