[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

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Originally Posted by Havrekjex

God damn it man, that is just straight up sexy. Here, have some jelly. One Trop away from being done? And what's the story on that Bayou, any reference I'm not picking up?

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Looks like Demonic Hordes.

How do you guys feel about signatures especially on foil cards? Do you find that the sig lowers the value of the card, up´s them or doenst matter.

I´m asking because I already have lots of foil cards and want to finish my deck with foil sigs but I´m not 100% sure if I should go this way because if I want to sell them in 5-10 years or whatever I dont want to sit on them forever...I understand that every change on a normal card lowers the amount of potential buyers but I hope you guys know what I mean...

I´m especially talking about sigs from Tedin, Hamm, Myrfors, Alexander, Argyl, Baga etc...

LPT: Rare signatures and ones that don't look like shit. Use a goddamn good paint marker, look at Nedleeds signed cards for an example of what not to do.

Example:

Rob Alexander has done so many shitty signatures that there's probably financial incentive to own cards done by him that are NOT signed.

Then there's just horrible signatures like WAR, Mark Poole at the end of the day, Frazier, and the person who does Monastery Mentor.

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Originally Posted by Manipulato

How do you guys feel about signatures especially on foil cards? Do you find that the sig lowers the value of the card, up´s them or doenst matter.

I´m asking because I already have lots of foil cards and want to finish my deck with foil sigs but I´m not 100% sure if I should go this way because if I want to sell them in 5-10 years or whatever I dont want to sit on them forever...I understand that every change on a normal card lowers the amount of potential buyers but I hope you guys know what I mean...

I´m especially talking about sigs from Tedin, Hamm, Myrfors, Alexander, Argyl, Baga etc...

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A few months ago I decided to sell all my foil and foil signed cards, to be able to upgrade my p9 to beta, so I have some experience on this topic.
Although signatures on foil cards can give more value to the card than signatures on regular cards, the time that will take to sell them will be much higher. You'll have to find people pimping their decks, as dealers and people who don't like signatures won't want them (not even valuing them as if they weren't signed). I already sold most of my foil non signed cards (most of them for +50€, not cheap cards), but I'm still siting on most of the foil signed cards.

My recommendation is to get signed cards only if you can get them signed personally, or through a friend who goes to a tournament where the artist signs, or through the artists agent. It's much slower than buying the cards already signed, but it'll be much cheaper and you won't worry that much for when it's time to sell them.

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Originally Posted by guillemnicolau

A few months ago I decided to sell all my foil and foil signed cards, to be able to upgrade my p9 to beta, so I have some experience on this topic.
Although signatures on foil cards can give more value to the card than signatures on regular cards, the time that will take to sell them will be much higher. You'll have to find people pimping their decks, as dealers and people who don't like signatures won't want them (not even valuing them as if they weren't signed). I already sold most of my foil non signed cards (most of them for +50€, not cheap cards), but I'm still siting on most of the foil signed cards.

My recommendation is to get signed cards only if you can get them signed personally, or through a friend who goes to a tournament where the artist signs, or through the artists agent. It's much slower than buying the cards already signed, but it'll be much cheaper and you won't worry that much for when it's time to sell them.

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Yeah thats exactly the point. Many People dont want foils and the people who like foils dont like sigantures most of the time. So you reduce the number of potential buyers to the half of the half of interests :frown:

I already let sign my cards through brokers and dont buy cards which are already signed on magiccardmarket or whatever just because of what you said, they´re more expensive then though a Broker. I´m just not sure if I should move on with the whole signature thing...

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Originally Posted by Havrekjex

God damn it man, that is just straight up sexy. Here, have some jelly. One Trop away from being done? And what's the story on that Bayou, any reference I'm not picking up?

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Originally Posted by sadface

Looks like Demonic Hordes.

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Thanks for the compliment! My decks are often works in progress as I change decks a lot, which then changes the focus of where I'm spending my money pimping.

I like my alters to be done by the artist who originally did the art on the card.

That one is indeed a Demonic Hordes alter done by Myfors (who also did the Demonic Hordes art).

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Originally Posted by Esper3k

Moar Food Chain!

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Hey, I sold you those Food Chains on ebay, Esper3k. Glad you're enjoying them, you're deck is beautiful!

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Originally Posted by TinkerRobot

Hey, I sold you those Food Chains on ebay, Esper3k. Glad you're enjoying them, you're deck is beautiful!

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Hah small world and thanks! Those were the last 3 I needed to finish the German foil playset.

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Originally Posted by Sandilini

Iunno, that's pretty subjective. Wayne Reynold's is a personal favorite of mine, and many people think that Magali Villeneuve's is one of the most beautiful. I think execution is certainly objective though. Like if the signature gets smeared or if you give the artist a crap pen. I personally wouldn't want to have Alexander's shortened "Alex".. but that's mostly because I know it's the "incomplete" result of a long day.

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Well everything he doesn't like sucks, and he will follow you around the internet like a lost dog telling you about it. That being said, we don't agree on much but we both agree Wayne's signature is wretched.

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Originally Posted by nedleeds

Well everything he doesn't like sucks, and he will follow you around the internet like a lost dog telling you about it. That being said, we don't agree on much but we both agree Wayne's signature is wretched.

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What can I say, I have excellent taste. If you ceased the incessant shit posting, I'd probably stop making fun of you and yes Wayne's signature is pretty much the worst.

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Originally Posted by socialite

What can I say, I have excellent taste. If you ceased the incessant shit posting, I'd probably stop making fun of you and yes Wayne's signature is pretty much the worst.

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You changed your screen name. I guess you got around nedleeds' iggy.

Some small signed goblin goodness (all foil if you can't tell from the pic).
Raoul Vitale's signature is pretty sweet.
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Hello. I'm looking to start pimping out UR storm and ANT/TES/DDFT/some other jank but I can't really decide how to go about it. I would prefer to get everything in Korean but most things aren't printed in Korean. Is there a difference in availability between Chinese and Japanese?

For those of you who like me aren't a huge fan of foils how to do you go about pimping your decks? Foreign? Altered?

Thanks for the help. Also whats the best way to find random foreign commons? I can't find pyretic or desperate rituals on mkm, tcg or ebay.

Japanese is more accessible, however is also more expensive when compared to Chinese.

I'm not a fan of foils (not that I can afford them anyway, but even if I could I wouldn't) so I do non-foil Japanese.

MKM is usually where I go to find my random foreign commons. But if you're looking for Japanese randoms, hareruya.com or tokyomtg.com are great.

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Originally Posted by Manipulato

How do you guys feel about signatures especially on foil cards? Do you find that the sig lowers the value of the card, up´s them or doenst matter.

I´m asking because I already have lots of foil cards and want to finish my deck with foil sigs but I´m not 100% sure if I should go this way because if I want to sell them in 5-10 years or whatever I dont want to sit on them forever...I understand that every change on a normal card lowers the amount of potential buyers but I hope you guys know what I mean...

I´m especially talking about sigs from Tedin, Hamm, Myrfors, Alexander, Argyl, Baga etc...

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It depends a lot on the condition of the foil. Even SP foils are hugely different to NM/Mint and redemption quality foils. If you have very good quality foils you should never touch them. But once a foil has lost that new quality it's fine to get it signed. Uniqueness is prized on eBay so signed cards do tend to be more watched and bid on.

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Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual

Japanese is more accessible, however is also more expensive when compared to Chinese.

I'm not a fan of foils (not that I can afford them anyway, but even if I could I wouldn't) so I do non-foil Japanese.

MKM is usually where I go to find my random foreign commons. But if you're looking for Japanese randoms, hareruya.com or tokyomtg.com are great.

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Glad to see I'm not the only one, I go all non-foil Japanese. Upcoming Japanese FoW make me very happy.

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Originally Posted by skyout

Glad to see I'm not the only one, I go all non-foil Japanese. Upcoming Japanese FoW make me very happy.

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I care about art, too, so while I will own a playset I will not sleeve them up in my deck. Burning man is just too iconic.

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Originally Posted by Noctalor

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Does this go down in price now that a sheet of text less promos has been cut up or were they all NFC to begin with?

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Originally Posted by socialite

Does this go down in price now that a sheet of text less promos has been cut up or were they all NFC to begin with?

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Some were actually found in japanese destiny packs.

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Originally Posted by MoxMonkey

Some were actually found in japanese destiny packs.

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That was my understanding as well after looking it up. I wonder what a cut up sheet does to the market.

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Originally Posted by socialite

Does this go down in price now that a sheet of text less promos has been cut up or were they all NFC to begin with?

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Have a link to where this was talked about?

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Originally Posted by ReAnimator

Have a link to where this was talked about?

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You'll need Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/high...6760098361913/

Prices:

Cradle -$7,000
Bolt -$5,000 (sold!)
Duress -$3,000
Serra Avatar -$3,000
Karn -$3,000
Stroke-$1,200 (Sold!)
Jaguar -$900
Skirge -$800
Quarry -$1,200
Rewind -$1,000
Filler -$250

I would never buy anything from him. He's just ruining the collectability of them.

The Revised market sure was.

I guess this is what happens when you try to recoup losses at the expensive of a community.

TY Socialite

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Format is so freaking addicting. Never thought I'd be on the hunt for Beta Sedge Trolls...

I'm surprised Unlimited Duals haven't spiked as a result of this format.

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Originally Posted by ScottW

I'm surprised Unlimited Duals haven't spiked as a result of this format.

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They already did

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Originally Posted by MoxMonkey

I would never buy anything from him. He's just ruining the collectability of them.

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I would never buy any offcenter NFCs from him. I do fancy myself a set of textless Bolts one day and if the only stock was those opened from packs then they would be really, really tough to find.

But the deliberate miscutting of sheets just to sell them at a premium is absolute trash.

@mini sick deck, Old School black and red cards are the sickest, the colors they used are perfect.

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Originally Posted by sdematt

They already did

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Thank you #MTGFinance

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Originally Posted by mini1337s

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Format is so freaking addicting. Never thought I'd be on the hunt for Beta Sedge Trolls...

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Looks awesome! Love seeing the old school decks!

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Originally Posted by sdematt

They already did

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Isn't an Unlimited Winter Orb around 10x more expensive than Revised? There is no comparison with the duals. You can usually find an Unlimited dual for about 1.5x the price. Maybe this is the wrong thread but wanted to follow up.

Yes, nice cards!

Are Rituals widely played in 93/94? What I'm really asking is if I should get some before they suddenly spike out of nowhere. Or maybe there are too many out there to buy out?

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Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual

I would never buy any offcenter NFCs from him. I do fancy myself a set of textless Bolts one day and if the only stock was those opened from packs then they would be really, really tough to find.

But the deliberate miscutting of sheets just to sell them at a premium is absolute trash.

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I jumped on 2 MM Foil Sword Fire/Ice and Foil Vendilion Clique from him on ebay and was super excited. This was about a year ago and i didnt know about the nfc stuff, disappointing overall :(
Overpaid a lot compare to what i could get for them now..

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Originally Posted by Havrekjex

Are Rituals widely played in 93/94? What I'm really asking is if I should get some before they suddenly spike out of nowhere. Or maybe there are too many out there to buy out?

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Giant spikes? Not so much. But there is alot of people playing mono black. As of right now there are $30 or under. Just depends on how nice they are.

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Originally Posted by ScottW

Isn't an Unlimited Winter Orb around 10x more expensive than Revised? There is no comparison with the duals. You can usually find an Unlimited dual for about 1.5x the price. Maybe this is the wrong thread but wanted to follow up.

Yes, nice cards!

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Dual lands have demand from Legacy/Vintage/Commander, which keeps the prices high and away from that 10x multiplier. You can't expect a $300 Underground Sea to scale the same way a 30 cent Jayemdae Tome does (300x).

I have no problems with NFCs. To be fair, I'm also not a miscut / misprint guy so it's not a big deal to me if it's nfc or "found in the wild" - they're all just essentially like alters to me.

As long sellers are up front about it, it doesn't bother me.

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Originally Posted by jrsthethird

Dual lands have demand from Legacy/Vintage/Commander, which keeps the prices high and away from that 10x multiplier. You can't expect a $300 Underground Sea to scale the same way a 30 cent Jayemdae Tome does (300x).

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I recently traded off a HP UNL sea to a store for $250 trade.

Wow, I almost never come in here and the one time I do... Ok guys, calm it down. I am going to try and clean up this mess. Please do report shit you see. We are not everywhere on the site all the time. Some things will go unseen unless you inform us.

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Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual

I'm referring to the half-of-another-card-is-showing NFCs, not the special ones regular NFCs like textless Bolt and textless Cradle, etc. Those ones are okay. But just because he can acquire a foil sheet of Origins Mythics and cut them so that it's a "Heretical Healer :1::b::b: Jace, Vr" doesn't make it okay for him to charge $200 for it. And the people actually paying that price for them are part of the problem because they are just encouraging him.

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This market has long been completely irrational. A few months ago, I contemplated selling my unlimited power and Time Vault, my playsets of Revised duals, some fbb duals I still have and one each of the ten unlimited duals, when I realized that the combined value of those cards would be enough to buy a newly built garage box. I was stupid and sentimental enough not to turn those 70 plieces of cardboard into brand spanking new real estate which I could then rent out, but this shows you that this game has long lost any rationality. You can't eat or drink those cards, you can't use them as tools to build something, you can't realistically reprocess the cardboard into new paper or cardboard. The moment this game loses its appeal, those thousand euro cards will only be good for kindling a fire. And yet we still pay stupid money for them. Home made miscuts are just the latest stupidity that got added to this phenomenon.

But obviously, somebody who sells those cards should mention the origin of the miscut. Truth in advertizing and all.