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The new Phyrexian Crusader looks like and awesome card for Infect Stompy to me. Alright, he comes down at CCC 3, but he has protection from the two colors with most removal in legacy, so we could say he's the first "troll-shroud" infector we might add :)
By the way, the white one might be good if it didn't have protection from GREEN, duhh!!! Hehe
They should definitely add some troll-shroud big guys in this set!!!
Be sure to try running it with Lotus Petal and Seal of StrengthQuote:
Originally Posted by Gui
Hello, this is gonna be my first post here and it's gonna be about this deck. Thanks for a amazing thread, been reading it all.
This is the list I play.
Lands: 16
7 Forest
3 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
2 Misty Rainforest
Creatures: 19
3 Street Wraith
4 Slippery Bogle
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Kavu Predator
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
Pumps: 23
4 Rancor
3 Assault Strobe
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Invigorate
4 Berserk
1 Vines of Vastwood
3 Seal of Strength
Enchantments: 2
2 Sylvan Library
The way I have build this deck is to use Fetch lands to thin the deck (to get Taiga to ofc), same as Street Wraith.
My own life count doesn't matter as much as the opponents life.
First I played 3x Skarrgan Pit-Skulk but I didn't like them, I wanna drop something else turn 2. Like Silhana, Navu, Seal of Strenght to go for the third round kill faster.
Funny deck and I hope for new and better pump and creature spells in the future.
happy new yr to every one btw!
does anyone here played this deck over
the recent xmas break tourneys in your area?
last 12 dec 2010, i played this in a 70 plus man tourney
wherein i landed 3-3-1 mark.
here in the phillipines we have an upcoming tourney
this sunday (9th of January). now that sur got axed,
im planning to use this deck again. any new suggestions
guys? thanks
oh btw off topic, i heard that the last GP for 2011 will
be at Amsterdamn and it will be in legacy format.
anyone planning to go? :)
Oh I wish... Toooo far xDQuote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
Let us know how it was, and list? Any playtests/results are apreciated
I would much rather use Manamorphose than Street Wraith. It doesn't cost you life, and fixes your red requirment even if you don't have a land that makes red mana. It opens up Talara's Battalion for an additional beater, should you feel the need for more beef in the deck. TBH, I'd rather just use Skarrgan Pit-Skulk instead of the Street Wraiths. I think even Elvish Spirit Guide would be a better option. Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Loffe
It's not like im really in big need of red mana with 3 red cards and with 6 fetch I normaly have one when ever I need one.
I do not like Talara's Battalion. The thing about Manamorphose is that it cost mana and Street Wraith doesn't. They do the same the thing is only the cost as I think Street Wraith is better because it's "free".
Elvish Spirit Guide give me card loss, I have to ditch another card that I need.
Thanks for you input!
Manamorphose is free, too. It essentially lets you play a 56 card deck, meaning you'll draw the cards you really want to more often. It's just a thought.
The problem with Manamorphose is that if I had to mulligan and only can get a hand with 1 land it's a useless card, with Street Wraith I could start digging faster for a land or scoop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
It's an interesting concept, and they both do essentially the same thing.
I would challenge the whole idea though...for myself, I'd rather have 4 more threats. You only have 16 creatures right now...and that doesn't seem like enough.
At the moment I'm running a 57 card deck which increase the chance of get a threat/pump/land rather then put in 3 bad creatures. Almost every deck running alot of removals as the creatures just get better and better. If they only could make more troll shroud creatures. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
Both Manamorphose and Street Wraith does the same thing. 2 life to draw a card or 2 mana and get 2 mana and draw a card.
You could compare Thoughtseize and Duress the same way. Thoughtseize let's you discards a opponent's creature by paying 2 life.
Same way I hate Talara's Battalion because you have to waste a pump spell or put out a creature round 3. Sure you could use Invigorate but that's a waste of pump if you gonna waste your pumps on a attack which isn't killing your opponent. Manamorphose is 4 cards out of 56 others to get Talara's Battalion out on round 2. That's a bad card for me in this deck.
Share your idea's about this please.
off topicQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
*looking at your avatar*
is that really you mr.safety?
back to the topic
manamorphose requires you to pay its casting cost
unlike that black witch, which only requires you to
pay with two lives.
Street Wraith is plainly better in our deck.
It requires 0 mana and it can, and will, give you our second so needed land faster.
Uncounterable, except for Stiffle.
I don't find it good enough for the slots he eats though. I tested it some time, and I hated topdecking it, cycling it, and drawing a forest. When if Wraith had been a pump or creature, it could have won me the game.
On another Topic:
I am seeing very little Stiffle in my metagame, so I'm considering to go back to play 12x Fetchlands, 5x Forest.
By the way, I'm lately playing 17 lands instead of 16 and 15. God it helps reducing the mulligan + unplayable Kavu - Silhana count :)
I am also taking Stompy to a meta with ANTs always making top8. What could I run in the sideboard other than Mindbreak trap, and maybe also Thorn of Amethyst?
Just curious what people's current lists are?
Land: 17
16 Forest
1 Tranquil Thicket
Creatures: 20
4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
4 Slippery Bogle
4 Kavu Predator
4 Scryb Sprites
Spells: 23
4 Berserk
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Rancor
4 Invigorate
3 Seal of Strength
2 Giant Growth
2 Sylvan Library
Sideboard: 15
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Gleeful Sabotage
4 Mindbreak Trap
3 Vexing Shusher
I'm playing 18, no regreats so far. It backups Sylvans and Goyfs when I use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NihilObstat
ANT redundancy would be Chalice of the Void @0. Thorn is bad unless, and even if you play 4 ESG.
@boneclub24
How is that list going for you? I had a similar one with Vines of Vastwood instead of Growth. I've been considering more the fact that VoV is often dead when Silhana/Bogle is online. Been considering that maybe we should go for one method of protection or the other, instead of both.
Yeah, 18 is what has been working best for me. I need to make room for another land.
@Gui: I'm not happy with Vines. It's hard enough to get 2 land, let alone the 3 needed to do kicked Vines + Berserk. How has the Goyf list gone?
@nihilo
lethal storm count - then tendrills for X / or X storm count for ETW, inresponse - M.TRAP?
remove all storm count including the original ETW or tendrills so that you wont lose life
or he wont have X number of gobs token?
im i correct? is that the way how you play it?
@_@
on topic, im using 16 (8 fetches, 8forest)
and here, only a few uses stifle. here spot removals
are rampant, so do with combo and control-aggro decks.
Yeah, just play Mind Trap after the storm trigger has gone off.Quote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
You should try to play MBT before their lethal tendrils, tho. They know it is one of your best options and will try to avoid it. MBT is more easily played around than Chalice, because they can delay their combo a bit and Orim's Chant you, while they will need another hate to fight chalice @0.Quote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
Mindbreak is better against Belcher and Solidarity/Spring Tide.
IMO, if you are already running 8 fetches, there's no much reason not to splash red out of 2-3 Taigas and get 3 extra berserks out of Assault Strobe. You will only need Taiga for strobe, so that you only fetch it for the final blow.
Hey everyone... I found this list in deckcheck...did anyone saw it recently?
http://www.deckcheck.org/?x=8QRflGWV...lGRfiaiac7bEbE
This guy take 1st just running 2x Boggles and also some ESG...comments? :]