Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Masamune
He is the guy that won the big monthly tournament that I organize, that I talked about but nobody commented ^^
He's top 8 was:
Legacy Vampires - full of removal, but he was fine with only 2 boggle
Enchantress - he played against my girlfriend and got lucky, lost 1st game but drew the 2x Reverent silence, that I had borrowed him, the next two games, my girlfriend almost kills me...
Merfolk - Decent/Easy pairing, good hands.
I think he also faced Goblins, Elves aggro, Vampires (the same ones, but before top8), and a semi-Rock.
ESG worked very well for him, though.
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Ok! So...how about this list? What's is your opinion NihilObstat? I aways like to run my four bogles and stomp everybody without ESG's... :x
Editing: By the way...is it hard to organize these tounaments?
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
What that list shows to me is that the deck can actually run with 16 creatures and that Bogle is, indeed, not that necessary.
Also, it shows that the magical 18-forest number works. xD
How many players were there Nihil?
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Originally Posted by
Gui
What that list shows to me is that the deck can actually run with 16 creatures and that Bogle is, indeed, not that necessary.
Also, it shows that the magical 18-forest number works. xD
How many players were there Nihil?
We were only 19 players this time and it was a very aggressive meta (5 goblins!) also with around 5 combo decks.
This is the 4th time that Stompy shows up to the tournie but the first it makes top8, although the other times it was close (2 of them Infect Stompy which died because of spot removal to kill the infecting creatures).
My comments on his list are as Gui's. 18 lands seems a great number, anyway most Legacy decks play around 23-26, and low mana decks similar to ours like Canadian, run 18 backed up by 4 Brainstorm, 4 Ponder that basically are there to fix mana, and their curve looks just like ours. Zoo runs 22 lands, Goblins also spend 23 spots in lands, Death&Taxes also 22, Maverick 22 lands also, so 18 lands is already a low enough number it seems, less than that means mulligan or not getting the 2nd land soon enough.
Also Boggle is great, but he's a 1/1, and that has made me lose many, many games that I can recall, because Berserked it means 2 damage less, and that is quite a lot. Maybe running a lower number, 2 or 3, and adding Tarmogoyf or Ascetic Troll could work. Although, knowing your meta is always important, if you know there's not much Zoo or Canadian or Swords, then you can maybe even take all 4 out, but also if you know there are always many Zoo and Swords, then you definitely need the Bogglis :)
On the ESG topic, how many of you do actually run them. Is it more than 50% or not, I believe that the only reason why I don't run them is because I don't have them, hehe.
I will finally play Berserk Stompy next time (29th) and I'm going for the Win ^^
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Have you guys ever tested a white splash in this deck? Although it seems that it will leave you more vulnerable to stifle and wasteland, the addition of white gives us options like:
Swords to Plowshares, which gives a nice boost to Kavu Predator and exiles any opponent's threats.
Jotun Grunt, I don't know about that one since we do not fill our graves that quickly (although a bit quicker when you run Fetch)
and Gaddock Teeg for side against Chalice and Storm combo :).
Just putting the thought out there :)
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Hireax
Have you guys ever tested a white splash in this deck?
Swords to Plowshares, Jotun Grunt, and Gaddock Teg
And don't forget about Qasali Pridemage which is just perfect for our deck.
The white splash has been widely discussed throughout the thread, but with the new Assault strobe, we have decided that if we splash only 1 color, the one to go for is Red.
Do you run a white splash list? If so, decklists are always welcome and any tournament reports :)
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I don't have a list, but am planning on testing it on MWS :)
I can see why red would be a better option, due to the extra speed that is obtained. I still feel that white would make match-ups more favorable :).
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Originally Posted by
Hireax
I don't have a list, but am planning on testing it on MWS :)
I can see why red would be a better option, due to the extra speed that is obtained. I still feel that white would make match-ups more favorable :).
Speaking of MWS, if any of you guys have Yahoo or MSN, I can help you test any time
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Originally Posted by
Hireax
I don't have a list, but am planning on testing it on MWS :)
I can see why red would be a better option, due to the extra speed that is obtained. I still feel that white would make match-ups more favorable :)
That's why if you have the money I would suggest you to run a 3 color version of the deck such as the ones that Etienne plays, but Jotün is not worth playing when you already have Tarmogoyf (sure they don't cost the same $), and Gaddock sounds kinda sub-par to me for our decks main goal, super fast aggro beat. He is not good against ANT because they will "bounce" him and it's only good against Chalice if you start the game with him, a land and Lotus or ESG.
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...7&iddeck=36586
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...7&iddeck=33220
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...4&iddeck=30455
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...7&iddeck=10409
Still a GW version can also be very good indeed, white opens up many new possibilities, so try it out ;)
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Thanks for your kind reply :).
Tarmo is above my budget I'm affraid. I'll definitely look into the possibilities :D
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Speaking of MWS, if any of you guys have Yahoo or MSN, I can help you test any time
That would be great, yet I have like 0 experience when it comes to things like this as I have been playing casual magic throughout the past years.
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I appreciate testing help, PM'd for msn ^^
GW lists got Qasali, which is a strong 2cc drop. Also, got Double Cleave as Berserk 5 and 6, and of course, StP. I preffer Chalice over Gaddock against combo, Gaddock actually is better as anti-wrath and anti-E.E.
I think adding 2 or 3 Tarmo is still better budget than splashing, but that would be my oppinion. I like the monogreen version, so I'm using Tarmogoyfs right now. I don't know any creature for 2cc other than Silhana and Kavu that could be better for us than Goyf, even without Petals and Grants and anything, he's just 3/4 every game (and well, if there was a plain 3/4 creature for :1::g:, I'd run 4). Only thing I'm running to boost him is Seal, so far so good, since everyone and their mothers runs fetchlands and instants, and our creatures reach the grave quite often anyways =/
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Oh, btw, green might be able to build its own monogreen infect stompy now: Rot Wolf and Viridian Corrupter, for cmc 3, with nice abilities.
http://mtgsalvation.com/mirrodin-besieged-spoiler.html
And the 4cc troll-shrouded troll that cannot be countered is kinda nuts against control, even though 4cc...
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Originally Posted by
Gui
Oh, btw, green might be able to build its own monogreen infect stompy now: Rot Wolf and Viridian Corrupter, for cmc 3, with nice abilities.
http://mtgsalvation.com/mirrodin-besieged-spoiler.html
And the 4cc troll-shrouded troll that cannot be countered is kinda nuts against control, even though 4cc...
He fits in the kind of build I was talking about yesterday, with Sword.
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Hireax
That would be great, yet I have like 0 experience when it comes to things like this as I have been playing casual magic throughout the past years.
Alright, add me: boneclub24@gmail.com
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Thrun, the Last Troll...I wish we could use him...he's too expensive, but such a cool card. If only he had something like one more toughness. Then, I could convince myself that he could go up against goyf in control decks. lol
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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Gui
2 or 3 Tarmo
Hehehe, it's so funny ^^
I think we are the only deck who wouldn't run 4 of him, because he costs TOO MUCH mana, when we are already running Kavu and Silhana ^^
On the MWS thing. Does anybody know how to run MWS or similar on Machinstosh, I've looked online but don't get lucky :(
Re: [Deck] Berserk Stompy
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NihilObstat
Hehehe, it's so funny ^^
I think we are the only deck who wouldn't run 4 of him, because he costs TOO MUCH mana, when we are already running Kavu and Silhana ^^
On the MWS thing. Does anybody know how to run MWS or similar on Machinstosh, I've looked online but don't get lucky :(
I only know to do it with a windows emulator.
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Hi There
This is my first message, i have been reading all the pages of this thread, and first of all, i want to thank you all, for the ideas and concepts that i have read here.
I want to run BS monoGreen, but i'm not sure about my deck, i pray for your help with it:
// Lands (18) -> Magic number as you say 2 pages before, but even with the pendel and cradle?
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Pendelhaven
1 Gaea's Cradle
10 Forest
// Creatures (19) -> Really 16 w/o the ESG.
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
4 Kavu Predator
4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
4 Scryb Sprites
3 Elvish Spirit Guide
// Spells (21 + 2 Sylvan)
4 Berserk
4 Invigorate
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Rancor
3 Seal of Strength
2 Vines of Vastwood
2 Sylvan Library
// Sideboard
SB: 4 Slippery Bogle
SB: 2 Vines of Vastwood
SB: 4 Gleeful Sabotage
SB: 4 Vexing Shusher
SB: 1 Forest
My SB is not complete, but of course i'm going to include the 4x Gleeful Sabotage and the 4x 4 Vexing Shusher minimum. Now, i dont know the metagame, and perhaps i am looking an standard SB.
What do you think about the deck ?
What will you do with it ?
Thx !!
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here's mine:
Yahoo messenger rafael_lagasca
Gmail rafaellagasca@gmail.com
:)
i dont have an MSN acct
by the way,i love these new cards:
- Thrun, the Last Troll
- Green Sun's Zenith
- Rot Wolf (and maybe this)
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@Nexus
SB seems a little fragile, perhaps you could do this if you like it
- 4 Vines of Vastwood
- 1 Forest
+ 3 Relic of Progenitus/ Tormod's Crypt
+ 2 Crucible of Worlds *with your manabase not such a bad option! Great when your fetch gets stiffled or your gaea/pendel gets wasted
How do people feel about Crucible side anyway? Always nice against land hate, but idk if we will be able to drop in on the table before we get the hate in our face :D
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I think we should try Choke against Merfolks and CB+Top. Has anyone tryed it already? I think that maybe with 18 lands we can have a couple, and they look more gamebreaker than shusher is.
