Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
emidln
FWIW, I play an extra land (Bayou) in my sideboard and bring in 4 Xantid Swarm with this manabase:
4 Polluted Delta
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Island
1 Swamp
My sideboard has 1 Bayou in it.
Now I'm curious. This means you cut the Doomsday Shelldock plan from your side?
I switched to Bryant's main and was planning on trying out Xantid Swarm in the side (because of the Saito-Merfolk matchup) but now I'm tempted to take your list again. Do you mind sharing your sideboard?
Thanks,
Z
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
I think I've mentioned it elsewhere in the thread, but the Doomsday sideboard plan didn't win signficantly more games than going -1 Ponder, +1 Thoughtseize while on the play postboard. On the draw, it did a lot better, but I wasn't losing enough (and the CB I see isn't hateful enough) to really warrant taking that much space. Madness and Merfolk are a good bit more of the metagame though...
The sideboard that I'd run in a tourney tomorrow would be:
Tendrils of Agony
Empty the Warrens
Grapeshot
Diminishing Returns
Ill-Gotten Gains
Thoughtseize
Pulverize
Bayou
3 Chain of Vapor
4 Xantid Swarm
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Thanks, I like it a lot.
You're pretty much screwed against a resolved CounterTop but like you said, I expect a lot more Merfolk and Madness (and other Survival builds), so that's a risk I'm willing to take.
I'll probably be playing this on Sunday.
Thanks again.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
ZZZ
Thanks, I like it a lot.
You're pretty much screwed against a resolved CounterTop but like you said, I expect a lot more Merfolk and Madness (and other Survival builds), so that's a risk I'm willing to take.
I'll probably be playing this on Sunday.
Thanks again.
If your worried about countertop and already playing the bayou you could always run Reverent Silence in your board.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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JonBarber
If your worried about countertop and already playing the bayou you could always run Reverent Silence in your board.
Since its only post-board it seems weak. I'd almost run a forest of some sort main if I was going to bother using the slot.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
If you run Burning Wish its not resigned to post board
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
I think all of you missed the part where Bayou is the worst swamp ever unless it's casting Xantid Swarm. This is all assuming you're okay with trying to solve a 2 into a 4 when they can counter either.
If they CB you, you should have (a) got luckier with Duress/TS or (b) gone off sooner. Since we know those don't happen all the time, you can run the plan (c) of playing bait the CB until they have something that isn't crippling on top of their deck. You also probably need to accept that resolved CB is usually GG for your combo deck in g1 since you 2 useful high CC bombs as opposed to the 4-8 that Show and Tell, Doomsday, and Sneak Attack decks have.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
So I'm in the process of building and playtesting TES. There is a Stax player in our local metagame. That deck is one nut I have yet to crack... how does TES deal with a T1 trinisphere, without waiting 3 or more turns for the mana to hit it with Chain of Vapor (after sideboard)? Before sideboard I would just feel like scooping to a T1 trini.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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Psyqo
So I'm in the process of building and playtesting TES. There is a Stax player in our local metagame. That deck is one nut I have yet to crack... how does TES deal with a T1 trinisphere, without waiting 3 or more turns for the mana to hit it with Chain of Vapor (after sideboard)? Before sideboard I would just feel like scooping to a T1 trini.
Stax doesn't really have a clock, if he doesn't get Crucible-Wasteland or Crucible-Flagstones-Smokestack going under the cover of Trinisphere/Chalice, you can just keep going on until you hit enough mana to get rid of it.
The MU is quite hard, but it's doable. Winning the roll is tech.
Today I won against Dragon Stompy and Pikula, but lost to Bant Aggro and Merfolk. I had abysmal draws against Merfolk, decent against Bant (but he slammed down a RWM and I kept drawing Rituals G1 =/). Drew the nuts against Pikula and Stompy, though.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Any thoughts on Leonin Arbiter, the new hatebear? For reference:
Leonin Arbiter 1W
Players can't search libraries. Any player may pay 2 to ignore this effect until end of turn.
2/2
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Not the best hate card imo. E.canonist is better for obvious reasons.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
Psyqo
So I'm in the process of building and playtesting TES. There is a Stax player in our local metagame. That deck is one nut I have yet to crack... how does TES deal with a T1 trinisphere, without waiting 3 or more turns for the mana to hit it with Chain of Vapor (after sideboard)? Before sideboard I would just feel like scooping to a T1 trini.
Run rebuilds in the side.
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Dia_Bot
Not the best hate card imo. E.canonist is better for obvious reasons.
Well, you can't grip the new guy though. Although Burning Wish makes the Arbiter a lot less good. Ehh, they both have pros and cons, but I think Canonist is overall better.
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Ando
Well, you can't grip the new guy though. Although Burning Wish makes the Arbiter a lot less good. Ehh, they both have pros and cons, but I think Canonist is overall better.
I woudn't worry too much about this new hatebear as it can only be played in monowhite decks. Playing it in decks with fetchs seems like a waste of time. And even in DnT Canonist + Mother is probably better against us, as we either need 2 answers or Krosan Grip to get rid of that.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Hi guys, I got couple newb questions:
1x Pyroclasm on sb, good or not? Kills Meddling Mages, Canonists and Teeg.
Is there any tips/guide for Diminishing Returns/Ill-gotten gains and Grapeshot? Example situations you want to use these?
Badlands instead of 2nd UG Sea, any noteable difference? Or should I just buy 2nd UG sea?
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
dsck
Hi guys, I got couple newb questions:
1x Pyroclasm on sb, good or not? Kills Meddling Mages, Canonists and Teeg.
Is there any tips/guide for Diminishing Returns/Ill-gotten gains and Grapeshot? Example situations you want to use these?
Badlands instead of 2nd UG Sea, any noteable difference? Or should I just buy 2nd UG sea?
Read the opening post for a lot of these questions.
Badlands doesn't cast cantrips which are vital in the opening turns of the game.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Every turn but the turn you win you need blue mana. Badlands doesn't tap for blue.
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today a I have won a tournament with 64 participants with TEPS, this deck is the nuts !!
I have a question , today I have played 4 burning wish +3 infernal tutor in main deck and 1 infernal tutor in sideboard, but some players preffer to play 4 burning wish and 4 infernal tutor in main, what is better and why ?
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First of all, congrats on the finish!
I think nowadays most TES players prefer 4 infernal tutor main, as it speeds up your deck game 1. Even if you happen to have "too much" infernal tutors and/or burning wish in hand, you can still shuffle them away with brainstorm, or use infernal to get an extra led, dark ritual, etc (and burning to get iggy, returns, etw, whatever)
Against certain matchups, I board 1 infernal out. Either It's because you need space to board in some cards or you just want the ability to go burning wish into infernal into ad nauseam/iggy loop.
The landstill matchup is a good example of this, you board in some extra protection (pyroblast, xantids, thoughtseize, whatever). You build up your manabase, try to break through their counterwall and when you succeed you'll be able to use burning wish to find ad nauseam (via your SB infernal), which remains a bomb until lategame against landstill, as they don't have a clock.
Re: [DTW] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
http://www.germagic.de/
If there any place for this card anywhere other than the sideboard as a wish target?
*molten psyche