[Deck] Goblins

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Originally Posted by jrw1985

Got hit with a case of the 0-2 Drops today! Exact same decklist as last time.
R1 Burn
G1 I kept a slow hand without a 1 drop but it would be good against the midrange and control decks of the format. I got Burned out instead. :( Swiftspear and 2x Lavamancers sealed the deal.
G2 I kept an opening hand with 2x Lackey and Mountain and Chrome Mox. Played 2 Lackeys T1. Opponent played Swiftspear. I Gempalmed the Swiftspear T2 and topdecked Ringleader T2 and steamrolled through this game for the W.
G3 I kept a hand with Tarfires and Pyrokinesis and Vial and just hoped he was on the creature plan this game. He wasn't. Got bolted to the dome and couldn't get back in it. Lost that one, but the hand I kept was still decently positioned; my opponent just had a different gameplan that game.

R2 ANT
G1 lost
G2 kept a hand of 3 lands, Surgical, and Trinisphere. Lost T2.

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Do you bring in the 3ball against burn? I managed to steal a win against Burn on the back of resolving a 3ball on turn 3 in game 2. Don't ask me how I won game 1, I have no idea, although I assume it involved the War Marshal.

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/z...rongrinder.jpg
Very interesting card, but not for our deck unfortynatly

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/z...rongrinder.jpg
Very interesting card, but not for our deck unfortynatly

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I really want it to be useful but I'm not seeing it. Using something like Apostle's blessing to make the team unblockable is probably too much of a stretch.

Again not really worth it but how does this work with the storm count for a later empty the warrens?

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Originally Posted by Paul7926

I really want it to be useful but I'm not seeing it. Using something like Apostle's blessing to make the team unblockable is probably too much of a stretch. Again not really worth it but how does this work with the storm count for a later empty the warrens?

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It doesn't have synergy with Storm. Copying a spell is not the same as casting a spell and doesn't trigger Storm. Imagine if it did. If you cast Tendils for 3 (2 spells, 1 Tendrils) then cast a Second Tedrils, that second Tendrils would be for 7 (3 Spells, 3 Copies, 1 Tendrils). It would get out of hand pretty quickly if Storm counted copies.

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Originally Posted by Paul7926

I really want it to be useful but I'm not seeing it. Using something like Apostle's blessing to make the team unblockable is probably too much of a stretch.

Again not really worth it but how does this work with the storm count for a later empty the warrens?

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It makes copies that are put onto the stack. You don't cast them. Therefore they don't add for storm.

Anyway, first goblin in a while that I won't even bother to comment. Really bad.

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Originally Posted by jrw1985

It doesn't have synergy with Storm. Copying a spell is not the same as casting a spell and doesn't trigger Storm. Imagine if it did. If you cast Tendils for 3 (2 spells, 1 Tendrils) then cast a Second Tedrils, that second Tendrils would be for 7 (3 Spells, 3 Copies, 1 Tendrils). It would get out of hand pretty quickly if Storm counted copies.

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Thanks for the explanation.

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/z...rongrinder.jpg
Very interesting card, but not for our deck unfortynatly

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This card is hilarious with Goblin Grenade if I'm reading it right. I only wish grenade was a tribal spell.

I wish it didn't say creatures you control.

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Originally Posted by GoblinTurkey

This card is hilarious with Goblin Grenade. I only wish grenade was a tribal spell.

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It doesnt copy goblin grenade Unless you want to deal 5 damage to all of your own creatures.

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Originally Posted by GoboLord

It doesnt copy goblin grenade Unless you want to deal 5 damage to all of your own creatures.

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Thanks! I wasn't quite sure because of the wording.

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/z...rongrinder.jpg
Very interesting card, but not for our deck unfortynatly

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I think that this card is interesting. Let's not cast it aside yet. Fever Charm, Hearth Charm, is sweet with this card. If you splash white Defiant Strike can be multiple can trips.

I don't know how good this card will be, but it's neat!

I'd rather use Wings of Velis Vel. At least it can be fetched for, and cost U with Warchief.
http://magiccards.info/mm2/en/70.html

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Originally Posted by L10

I'd rather use Wings of Velis Vel. At least it can be fetched for, and cost U with Warchief.
http://magiccards.info/mm2/en/70.html

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I'm assuming you can also get that U from a caverns set to goblin as well?

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Originally Posted by Paul7926

I'm assuming you can also get that U from a caverns set to goblin as well?

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Only colorless, because this is not a creature

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

Only colorless, because this is not a creature

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Thanks

https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.ne...108c221d7585bd

A pretty average card in itself but this "Rally" mechanic sounds interesting. Here's hoping we're given a Goblin with Rally. It's not the most powerful thing to be doing, but stacking the triggers with say a War Marshal/Krenko/Siege Gang should help you hit a home run with a Ringleader.

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Originally Posted by Stevestamopz

https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.ne...108c221d7585bd

A pretty average card in itself but this "Rally" mechanic sounds interesting. Here's hoping we're given a Goblin with Rally. It's not the most powerful thing to be doing, but stacking the triggers with say a War Marshal/Krenko/Siege Gang should help you hit a home run with a Ringleader.

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rAlly only for Ally, so this is useless for our deck

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

rAlly only for Ally, so this is useless for our deck

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A Goblin with rally that gets Goblins instead of Allies would be cool is what I was getting at.

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Originally Posted by OlegtheSuper

rAlly only for Ally

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Hah! Clever. :laugh:

Steve, what Oleg is getting at is that the Rally mechanic is something that by definition supports Allies.
A goblin with Rally would have an effect that only triggers on itself and other Allies entering the battlefield. So you'd have to consider running 4 Tuktuk Scrapper maindeck if WotC made your Rally Goblin...

This Sunday is the second of my local groups Legacy Sundays. It promises to have a reasonable turnout and I'm hoping to go better than 0-2-1 (plus a bye) this time. I've managed to grab a couple more cards and also borrow some so my list looks a little better, especially the sideboard.

Creatures (34)

4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Ringleader
3 Mogg War Marshal
3 Gempalm Incinerator
2 Goblin Chieftain
1 Stingscourger
1 Tin Street Hooligan
1 Warren Instigator
1 Krenko, Mob Boss
1 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Goblin Sharpshooter

Spells (5)

4 Aether Vial
1 Tarfire

Lands (21)

1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Cavern of Souls
8 Mountain
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Stomping Ground
2 Wooded Foothills
1 Wasteland


Sideboard (15)

2 Chalice of the Void
1 Pithing Needle
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Tin Street Hooligan
2 Dismember
1 Perish
1 Rule of Law
1 Earwig Squad
2 Ashen Rider


The last event was a lot of fun but I had no clue what I was doing. Really looking forward to Sunday now.

Playing a list I thought I would never even consider. Desperate times, desperate measures...

Maindeck
3xEarwig Squad
2xGempalm Incinerator
4xGoblin Lackey
4xGoblin Matron
2xGoblin Piledriver
4xGoblin Ringleader
1xGoblin Sharpshooter
4xGoblin Warchief
3xMogg War Marshal
1xSiege-Gang Commander
1xSkirk Prospector
1xStingscourger
1xTuktuk Scrapper
2xPyrokinesis
4xÆther Vial
3xBadlands
3xBloodstained Mire
4xCavern of Souls
2xMountain
4xRishadan Port
4xWasteland
3xWooded Foothills

Sideboard
1xTuktuk Scrapper
1x Stingscourger
3x Sudden Demise
4x Thoughtseize
3x Relic of Progenitus
3x Trinisphere