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Aside from that, spout costing an additional mana is also relevant. The only three mana spells in the deck are late-game spells (wipe away and RR), whereas clasm is something you typically want to be able to play as early as you can in the matchups where you board it in.
I agree with you. As soon as their loam engine is running, mana denial work is all gone. I often loose to rock/doran rock too. I'm playing a sideboard with 3 submerge+ 3 Mind harness now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DerFern
Has mind harness been working for you? It seems like it would be hard to maintain since you have to pay the upkeep cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by gdtpara
Yeah my games never end very quickly. I'd rather try out Threads of Disloyalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maagler
What do you guys need extra removal? I mean don't you already have Submerge, Lightning Bolt, Fire/Ice, and not to forget EE.
If i would ad removal I would certainly ad another EE. Because everything you can handle with Threads can be handled with EE, too. It even kills 3cc Creatures and other things like Enchantress.
Sometimes stealing a Goyf/Dreadnought is cooler than killing it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by miko
I've been having serious success with this list in my testing:
Lands
4 [TE] Wasteland
4 [FUT] Grove of the Burnwillows
3 [B] Tropical Island
3 [R] Volcanic Island
4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
Creatures
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
4 [OD] Nimble Mongoose
2 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
Spells
4 [ZEN] Punishing Fire
4 [LRW] Ponder
4 [5E] Brainstorm
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [NE] Daze
4 [M10] Lightning Bolt
4 [SC] Stifle
Sideboard
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 4 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
SB: 4 [SHM] Firespout
SB: 1 [4E] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 [OV] Pyroblast
I view merfolk and zoo as relatively tough match-ups for Canadian thresh in general, and grove/punishing really helps those MUs. I thought I should ask people more in tune with the archetype what MU I'm making worse.
Sorry, how does cutting four spell snares, which are great against zoo and merfolk, for four lands make those matchups better? Punishing fire seems fine against folk, until they waste your grove, but it doesn't seem good against zoo.
All that is beside the point anyway as merfolk and zoo aren't bad matchups for this deck to begin with!
Seriously... this is a joke right? punishing fire!? really?!? you cannot tell me this has proven better in testing than a billion other cards that would actually be relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluemagex2517
You are making every MU worse, you might loose to a standard legal jund deck, thats how bad you just fucked your deck
Submerge is really cool, it helps to clean the way for last damage and can be a cool burn if stalker+bob is in play. But when they almost have all their life and that only goose stay on the table, i like to take their faties to hit them fast and bring them to the red blast zone. Also, i prefer mind harness to Thread cause it can take terravore, crusher and knight of reliquary.
What do you think is better at the moment? Merfolk or Canadian Thresh?
Tempo Thresh, Merfolk gets crushed by Zoo
I saw there are some list without red, only Ug? Do you think this list are playable or outdated?
http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?ty...&format=Legacy
the problem is that you lose all of the removal that pwns zoo and fish and whatever else... there's a reason why there was a huge shift to canadian... it is the best tempo thresh period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitchtoken
I've been fooling around with a black threshold build recently (taking a break from CounterTop and I wanted to try something other Canadian), and have decided to test it in a small, organized MWS tourney.
I've made videos so you can see the deck in action (I'll keep my exact list secret for now, though).
Here are the Round 1 videos, vs NO Bant
Round 1, Game 1
Round 1, Game 2
I'll try to have the 3rd game up later tonight.
EDIT: Double post - plz delete.
Watching MWS games on youtube is not really that exiting.
But: I appreciate that you have another try on BUG-Thresh. Btw.
It would have been more interesting if you had posted a tournament report instead of posting the video.
And i would like to encourage you to stick to BUG-Threshold just for the sake of improving already existing attempts.
Haha, never seen one trade Progenitus for Bob.
The thing is, the tournament isn't over (each round lasts about a week so people can get their games in)Quote:
Originally Posted by miko
I will post further updates in this thread.
I've added the last two videos, round 1 is now fully up:
Playlist here