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Tired of this argument against cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Counterbalance is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
Standstill is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
Force of Will is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
Krosan Grip is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
A land is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
In fact, aside from threats, removal and draw spells, EVERYTHING is a lousy topdeck in most situations.
I'm pretty satisfied with the set, a good number of cards that will see play in Legacy somewhere. However, as an Aggro Loam player, I'm very disappointed that even though I play a deck with 26 lands and Loam, still none of the many "landfall" cards are good enough to play. I guess that's in part because they are printing fetchlands, which means that cheap and good landfall cards could have been broken in Standard rather fast. Excited about Summoner's Trap though...
Wow, it charges at "each player's end step"!Quote:
Originally Posted by murderface
This card goes into my casual Rogue Ankh deck (acceleration+Bitterblossom+Ankh of Mishra+Rogues :smile:) and looks like some kind some kind of Red Death can use it by speedcharging it with Bolts/Lavamancers.
Also, Sygg, River Cutthroat has very similar requirements, so maybe they can fit into one deck...
Your point is well taken. Let me be more specific - to make bloodchief ascension viable you've basically got to be stabilized at dealing 2 damage per turn. Odds are that it's going to be a win more card most of the time it comes on-line, and not such a great card when it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightmare
That said, it seems like all the top decks are basically land/mana + threats, counter/removal, and draw/tutor spells. Combo cards like the ascension are really only popular when they can win on the same turn, or are good on their own.
I'm thinking it'd be a pretty solid card in Burn for long-term damage. Consider that if you can land it within the first three turns, each spell you sling at them will charge it. Past that, you probably don't have to draw much burn past that to win. Further, and the really sick thing is, nobody will bring in stuff to hate on the Ascension! It's a solid plan B.Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
I do like the idea of BloodChief Ascension in burn. Against agro decks, you can throw your burn at their creatures, while at the same time dealing them 2 and gaining two, seems like it would really help you win there.
Even better. You get 2 life per card. Burning their creatures means 4 life for you and -4 for life for them :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilver
How about with something like manabarbs?
Does anybody got a list available with the black splash in burn? Would you just play bloodchief ascension, how many MD/SB? I am very interested in this. I'm wondering if it would be worth it to play other cards like confidant. I dunno, it just scares me to ruin the holy virgin burn manabase just for one card. Is bloodchief ascension the only card in such a list?
If there is a SCD thread I'll go there but I don't see one and since this is really a simple question I'll just post it here.
Did burn suddenly become a legitimate option for creature removal? Last time I checked, Tarmogoyf, Tombstalker, Nimble Mongoose, and goblins don't care about burn too much. Yes, it is possible to activate Bloodchief Ascension somewhat easily, but burn is not a very good compliment after the fact.
Hm, maybe if Burn strays away from the normal "drop land, cast burn, pass".
If Burn would feature some sort of carddraw (Sign in Blood maybe, it includes reach) and both Bloodchiefs Ascension and Pyromancers Ascension, then it could work. but I guess this would take so much deckspace alone, that the deck would get too inconsistent to be playable.
If you're going to splash Black, you also get Bob and maybe Sygg, River Cutthroat. Zoo can run Stp/PtE as creature removal, so why can't you run Terminate? But that's not a burn deck anymore.
I think the main problem and challenge is rather to construct a deck that
a) can charge Bloodchief Ascension fast enough to matter and to not be win-more
b) is able to put enough of your opponents cards into the graveyard to make use of Ascension once it's charged.
Hm... It should be possible o flip it with UB and then cast a lethal Glimpse the Unthinkable.
Landbind Ritual? Seriously. Worst card ever.
It only triggers off of their cards going to the graveyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by sco0ter
Well, there's also this gem in Zendikar:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Mindless Null
2B
Creature - Zombie (Common)
Mindless Null can't block unless you control a Vampire.
2/2
Yup, strictly worse than Scathe Zombies.
I'd say worse than Spineless Thug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icapica
I suppose, but really just a nothingburger. Compare Mindless Null to Bog Raider, Cadaverous Knight, Embalmed Brawler, Gutless Ghoul, Headless Horseman, Nantuko Husk, Nightscape Battlemage, Phyrexian Ghoul, Quagmire Druid, Ragamuffin, Scathe Zombies, or Warpath Ghoul. All of those are zombies with the same CC and better stats or abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Can someone post the text of this ritual?
Don't worry it's unplayable in every single format.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath_Of_Houlding