did you board in endbringer vs burn XD? i tried that strategy vs e.bridge miracles sometimes, it never worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkness
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did you board in endbringer vs burn XD? i tried that strategy vs e.bridge miracles sometimes, it never worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkness
I brought it in since I only have 1 Ratchet Bomb and figured it could be another out to a bridge. I don't think it is a resonable option as it is super slow, just didn't have anything else to bring in. I got lucky for sure lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
hehhehe im glad my sideboard is so straight forward, so i dont get tempted to board odd cards ^^. thorn / thoughknot /tempo / them not having lands also does the trick i.m.oQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkness
what did you cut and bring in then? -2 dismember -2 sower -1 tomb / + karakas + 4 thorn is what i do.
I did -2 dismembers -1 Tomb / + 1 Karakas +1 Enbringer +1 BombQuote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
I was referring to our guide but I think that strategy is more stream line I will update it and use that going forward. I think it's good for game 2 but if you see a Bridge I will be bringing in the only bomb I have left in my board.
wut no thorns? thorns are quite good. i Always board in 2-4 thorns. they keep 1 lands all the time. with a thorn in play they cant play bridge in time and they cant double burn TKS. i dont know why it is not in our sideboard guideQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkness
This!Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
I'm usually too terrified of being price of progressed to death but thorn pretty much destroys their whole gameplan outside of that.
yes price is very bad. thats why i dont play a lot of lands and keep wasteland up, to waste myself. But most of the time, if the can afford to play arround thorn, they are flooded anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by potatodavid
2th time 5-0 in ONE DAY. i hope they post it on mtggoldfish. i ripped a exploration and an snappy from 8 chests :)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8qcLXnQFpH...0/777-full.jpg
-Bug delver
-ANT
-miracles
-miracles
-Belcher
They don't usually post multiple 5-0s on the same day I think, my friend (FGC on modo) got two on the same day and only one was posted.
Wow, congrats man! That's incredible, great run. I see you're running Confusion in the Ranks consistently now? Sorry if this was discussed at some point (Ive been out of the loop) but this is obviously for the Sneak and Show matchup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
So, you either steal their Omni or you put down CitR off SnT and then next turn pop down a Mimic/Endless one and steal their Griselbrand/Emrakul? Is that correct? If so, that's fucking genius lol :cool: I'm gonna have to try that myself.
tnx guys :)! yes i run it for omni and sneaky show. well, it is even better.........if you already have a creature and they show in a creature and you show in the confusion, then the confusion also triggers for the shown in creature. So if you have a mimic and they show in emrakul, you get the emrakul on the spot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk
Man that's spicy tech, I love it!! I find this matchup very tough... Endbringer is ok but it doesn't seal the deal like confusion does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
Great comment about how confusion triggers as well. Time to modify my Sideboard, appreciate the tip noloam!
good luck with it! it really is a keeper for me. It just makes sure that you no longer have terrible matchups (except for lands, but 1 needle is not gonna change that).Quote:
Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk
Just to be clear, this does not trigger when Marit Lage is put into play, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
It does trigger. But there is no realistic way that you will hardcast it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pateuglow
Hey, we run SSG right? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
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Originally Posted by pateuglow
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/49/49ded...491650b05f.jpg
Forgive me if this is frowned upon, I'll happily delete my question, but I figured it doesn't hurt to at least ask.
I'm a pretty exclusive miracles-only player, and I'm fairly active on the Miracles thread here on the source. For month, I've been trying to "solve" the Eldrazi matchup and we come up with small edges every once in a while, but it feels as if your spaghetti monsters adapt to any "tech" fairly easily. People tried Moat, Blood Moon, other enchantments, and you adapted with Oblivion Sower > Ulamog which demolishes the idea of hiding behind an enchantment of any sort, and other adaptations of such things.
I'm here to ask, how do I beat you? I am loathe to have nonbasic land hate if it's a) only for this one matchup and b) you can usually beat it anyway. I think I've just been looking at it the wrong way, and so I'd like to ask you all how miracles players primarily beat you? Does it usually involve you stumbling? A fast Mentor? Nothing seems consistent and I've been tearing my hair out in order to solve this matchup or at least make it even slightly more reasonable than the 90-10 or 80-20 that it feels like for me.
Again, apologies if a discussion like this is frowned upon, but I figured I'd get the best information directly from the best among the Eldrazi players.
I appreciate any and all input!
it is a fair question. I play miracles exclusively in paper also. The fair answer is: there is not a solid answer available. Its always a combination of cards. I believe the landhate is the best way to deal with eldrazi + terminus. Dwarven Blastminer for example is a good one + some counter / removal backupQuote:
Originally Posted by Minniehajj
I agree with noloam the only losses I've ever had to miracles is from land disruption. I faced an opponent who used from the ashes, it felt miserable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minniehajj
Bob Huang called out Noloam in a Channelfireball article, great work Noloam!
nice :). funny to see that they use a sideboard that i no longer appreciate :P. 2 needles can be good vs lands tough.
Had an excellent game where I stole reanimators Elesh with eldrazi obligator and swung for lethal on turn 3, I am fascinated by this deck and will be testing it.
5-0 today. stupid mtggoldfish posted non of my 2 5-0's on the same day. mtgtop8 posted 1 :(
-ANT
-BR reanimator
-Miracles
-D&T
-Sneaky show
i won the finals with confusion in the ranks. I wasted his 1st land drop and hoped he whould slam an early show and tell and he did
http://i63.tinypic.com/30be0q8.png
Congrats!
Totally like this.
I also realized that I still have 3 foil Confusions in my binder so I might try them at my next locals (quite some Tell-Decks here and both of the Reanimator-Players here have a combined amount of 8 copies of Show and Tell in their 150, too).
Report incoming at the end of the weekend.
nice dude! keep me posted. yes i also board it in vs reanimator, it works like a charmQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterHerC
Pretty awesome. What did he gain control of, though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
a 2/2 endless one. I chumped it with my own 2/2 endless one. I turn 1 wasted, turn 2 dubble endless one, turn 3 chaliceQuote:
Originally Posted by TLK
Aside from this interaction, do you find yourself mostly making 2/2 and 3/3 endless ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
mostly 2/2's.i see endless ones as my extra mimicsQuote:
Originally Posted by pateuglow
I think I have a tendency to wait to grow them. But now I think going wide is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
Thx sir - I'll be hopping in a league when I get home tonight most likely
Yes you have to know that they usually make 2 or 3 hits, which is enough for the rest of the team to seal the deal. Dont forget we are a aggro deck. Cool man. Let me know when you will stream again (or when you have a new video). I whould love to see your skills grow. Good luck dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by pateuglow
So would you guys agree it's correct to make a 2/2 endless one every time turn one if possible? Minus having mimic or top decking it. Never make it 1/1?
Why would you want a 1/1 when you can have a 2/2?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaosjace
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Originally Posted by Whitefaces
I mean if you don't draw a sol land, is there any circumstance you want a 1/1
If you cant turn 1 chalice, you probably can turn 1 endless one for 2/2 through an eye. I only make 1/1 endless ones sometimes vs shardless to mess with lilly
I sleeved up this list
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=13872&d=281999&f=LE
I was thinking about chameleon colossus, mainly because I love that card, but it also dodges most removal, easily castable with 8 gold lands, very strong late game. Would probably cut the drowner of hope
There are 8 green sources in the deck, assuming you name Shapeshifter with Caverns... :really:Quote:
Originally Posted by chaosjace
'Easily castable' is very, very ambitious!
No. but chameleon colossus is an eldrazi
Alright.
6 rounds of swiss today.
List: see signature of Noloam_ and replace a Wasteland with a 2nd Urborg... ;)
Match 1 - Dredge
G1, mull to 6 on the draw, pretty weak game, Dredge was allowed to dredge a lot, hitting 2 Bridges, Therapy and Narcomoeba with the 2nd Stinkweed Imp. Easy lose.
G2 & G3, Leyline of the Lulz, no mulls.
Match 2 - Miracles
G1, mull to 6 on the play, he landed an early Mentor but I managed to draw a Dismember, which he wasn't able to counter, then double Smasher for the win.
G2, mull to 6, he resolved a Blood Moon but I was able to hit my landdrops and resolve a late All is Dust. Being free to cast uncounterable Eldrazi he wasn't able to defend any longer.
Match 3 - Belcher
G1, on the play, I know the player and his deck so I kept a turn 1 TKS, stealing his important Seething Song, Opponent wasn't able to recover.
G2, mull to 6, Opponent turn 1 emptied his warrens for 12 Goblins. Fun.
G3, mull to 6, Turn 1 Thorn, Turn 2 Thorn, Turn 3 TKS. Fun!
Match 4 - OmniTell
G1, on the draw, Opponent had the Turn 2 Show and Tell with Omniscience, I threw in a TKS, double Enter the Infinite in Opponent's hand. -_-
G2, mull to 6, keeping Endless One, Eldrazi Mimic, Confusion in the Ranks. Opponent went for the Turn 3 Show and Tell and I got to trade my Endless One for his Emrakul. NICE!
G3, mull to 5, landing Chalice X=1, stealing Show and Tell with TKS but he was able to topdeck into another Show and Tell and I only was able to throw in a Karakas for nothing.
Match 5 - Miracles
G1, on the play, quite a long game but no mentor, got Eye online and the Smashers brought it home.
G2, mull to 6, used a Wasteland for his Tundra, cutting my Opponent off White for 3 turns, netting enough time to establish a board and steal a StP with TKS.
Match 6 - ANT
G1, mull to 6 on the draw. Opponent snap keeped, pew pew.
G2, mull to 6, Chalice X=0, Chalice X=1 and caused my Opponent to concede after casting Turn 3 Thorn.
G3, keep 7, starting with Leyline, Opponent probed, I had Chalice, Tomb and Thorn in hand, "Wow, don't think I can win this one", he was right.
5-1, only losing to that damn OmniTell again.
Cashed in my voucher for a foil Chalice of the Void (now I want 3 more ... :D ) and the last missing FtV Ancient Tomb.
It was a very funny day, kind opponents all the way.
Saw a lot of DnT today, but dodged them all. :P