Shadowmoor Info

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

It also seems good in the survival mirror

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In the Survival mirror he takes out the perfect number of cards as well, Squee & Genesis...

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

Don't think I saw anyone mention this yet:

Gleeful Sabotage 1G
Sorcery
Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Conspire


I think this will be a replacement for survial decks that run hull breach as a wish target. Advantages it has over hull breach:
No red to cast it.
I think it will hit two things more often than hull breach.
Can get around a counter by making a second copy of itself.
Can get around counterbalance since counterbalance doesn't trigger off the copy, of course they can jsut counter the copy.

Disadvantges:
Sometimes it won't be able to hit two things while hull breach can, but I still think this will hit two things more often than hull breach will.

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Can also hit two artifacts or two enchantments rather than one of each.

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Originally Posted by Maveric78f

Goblins? Against which counterspells are already bad because of vial and lackey?

Burn? Sorry I don't understand.

Survival? Maybe the only one where it could see play. But once survival is out, it's often useless too because you already have a recursion engine. Before survival, it's unlikely that you have it in hand (because you're not going to play it 4*, aren't you?).

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If you look into any of these threads you will see that people are testing it. In all the goblins lists in the thread there may be one that isnt playing 3-4 in the board. Shusher belongs in burn because it trumps the one card that hurts the deck the most: counterbalance. There not much else to it.

Counterbalance kinda sucks against Goblins.

Wowowow, did I say Goblins? I said that its good at stopping counterbalance for burn. I was trying to explain why shusher belongs in burn and I did. When did I say that shusher is for stopping counterbalance against Goblins?

Illuminated Folio 5
Artifact
1,T , Reveal two cards from your hand that share a color: Draw a card.

CC of 5 might be a bit steep for Legacy, but this is going to see play somewhere.

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Originally Posted by etrigan

Illuminated Folio 5
Artifact
1,T , Reveal two cards from your hand that share a color: Draw a card.

CC of 5 might be a bit steep for Legacy, but this is going to see play somewhere.

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Yeah - block and maybe standard. This is like Whispers of the Muse-quality card drawing. Not impressed.

A draw engine for MBC, perhaps? The bad part (outside of it's atrocious mana cost) is the fact that you have to have at least two cards in hand.

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Originally Posted by technogeek5000

If you look into any of these threads you will see that people are testing it. In all the goblins lists in the thread there may be one that isnt playing 3-4 in the board. Shusher belongs in burn because it trumps the one card that hurts the deck the most: counterbalance. There not much else to it.

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The fact that people are dumb does not mean that you should copy their dumbness. Burn is the aggro/combo deck in those MUs. And playing this Shusher won't help.

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Originally Posted by Maveric78f

The fact that people are dumb does not mean that you should copy their dumbness. Burn is the aggro/combo deck in those MUs. And playing this Shusher won't help.

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So playing Krosan Grips in RG Sligh makes you a control deck? When a card that is played all over owns your deck, it is awesome to have answers for it.

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Originally Posted by technogeek5000

Wowowow, did I say Goblins? I said that its good at stopping counterbalance for burn. I was trying to explain why shusher belongs in burn and I did. When did I say that shusher is for stopping counterbalance against Goblins?

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My bad. I thought you were still talking about gobbos. CB still sucks against them though.

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Originally Posted by etrigan

Illuminated Folio 5
Artifact
1,T , Reveal two cards from your hand that share a color: Draw a card.

CC of 5 might be a bit steep for Legacy, but this is going to see play somewhere.

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Er? In limited, maybe. This is pretty significantly worse than Jayemdae Tome.

Does Rofellos/Devoted Druid/Priest of Titania/Krosan Restorer/Viridian Joiner + Umbral Mantle have legs as a combo in legacy? It's relatively lean and the cards have alternative uses.

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Originally Posted by AngryTroll

Right, no one ever plays Madness anyways. It would still be hilarious to have this against the one Madness player I have run into since Legacy Thresh was invented.

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Well, Roland Chang won the 2006 Legacy Champs with Madness. :wink:

Has anyone else noticed the interaction between Grindstone and Painter's Servant? Mill an entire library for 6 colorless mana. Unless I'm misunderstanding the way these abilities interact.

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Originally Posted by Race War

Has anyone else noticed the interaction between Grindstone and Painter's Servant? Mill an entire library for 6 colorless mana. Unless I'm misunderstanding the way these abilities interact.

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Nice find! Not sure it's better than Rings+Vault, but if nothing else it doesn't cost you a paycheck.

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Originally Posted by etrigan

Illuminated Folio 5
Artifact
1,T , Reveal two cards from your hand that share a color: Draw a card.

CC of 5 might be a bit steep for Legacy, but this is going to see play somewhere.

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If Mind's Eye hasn't made the cut, this definitely won't.

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Originally Posted by raharu

A draw engine for MBC, perhaps? The bad part (outside of it's atrocious mana cost) is the fact that you have to have at least two cards in hand.

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MBC has so many decent card drawing spells available to it already. Assuming you have Coffers, Staff of Domination comes to mind.

Hmm, seems Painter's Servant is different from what was in the MTGS spoiler (1/2 and only affected permanents). This makes it quite a bit more potentially useful. (Previously, it was just a fragile version of Shifting Sky.)

i am confused.

I played the pre release yesterday in Holland. I got the Demigod as promo.

How can other get vexer?