Ruby Storm

I was thinking a bit more about Jeska's Will.

An added bonus of this card is that prior to it, I was running a Rite of Flame in the sb. What this did is allow you to have a play like.

Seething song -> Bonus Round -> LED -> Burning Wish -> crack RRR in response. Get Rite of Flame and something else. (Usually it was Hazoret's Undying Fury)

Now the deck can run a much more versatile sideboard slot in Jeska's Will, which in almost all cases will allow for that same play. It also now allows you to get an effect of a draw spell, and something you can just Wish for on turn 2.

Getting the 4th rite of flame in the maindeck is huge as well. (which doesn't really need an explanation)

I would propose the following list for testing.

// 12 Artifact
4 Lotus Petal
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Lion's Eye Diamond

// 2 Creature
2 Simian Spirit Guide

// 9 Instant
4 Manamorphose
4 Seething Song
1 Desperate Ritual

// 14 Land
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Sandstone Needle
6 Mountain

// 21 Sorcery
4 Rite of Flame
4 Burning Wish
2 Past in Flames
4 Bonus Round
4 Act on Impulse
3 Jeska's Will
2 Hazoret's Undying Fury


sb would have at a minimum:

1 grapeshot
1 tendrils of agony
1 empty the warrens
1 jeska's will
1 past in flames

and then there's some which are almost always going to make it into the sb
1 cave-in
1 by force/shattering spree
X defense grid/blasts/empty the warrens

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Originally Posted by mistercakes

I was thinking a bit more about Jeska's Will.

An added bonus of this card is that prior to it, I was running a Rite of Flame in the sb. What this did is allow you to have a play like.

Seething song -> Bonus Round -> LED -> Burning Wish -> crack RRR in response. Get Rite of Flame and something else. (Usually it was Hazoret's Undying Fury)

Now the deck can run a much more versatile sideboard slot in Jeska's Will, which in almost all cases will allow for that same play. It also now allows you to get an effect of a draw spell, and something you can just Wish for on turn 2.

Getting the 4th rite of flame in the maindeck is huge as well. (which doesn't really need an explanation)

I would propose the following list for testing.

// 12 Artifact
4 Lotus Petal
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Lion's Eye Diamond

// 2 Creature
2 Simian Spirit Guide

// 9 Instant
4 Manamorphose
4 Seething Song
1 Desperate Ritual

// 14 Land
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Sandstone Needle
6 Mountain

// 21 Sorcery
4 Rite of Flame
4 Burning Wish
2 Past in Flames
4 Bonus Round
4 Act on Impulse
3 Jeska's Will
2 Hazoret's Undying Fury


sb would have at a minimum:

1 grapeshot
1 tendrils of agony
1 empty the warrens
1 jeska's will
1 past in flames

and then there's some which are almost always going to make it into the sb
1 cave-in
1 by force/shattering spree
X defense grid/blasts/empty the warrens

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With act on impulse being strictly worse than than jeskas will, which one do you want in the sideboard? Where do you prefer the flexibility?

Also this deck seems like it might benefit a lot from a few valakut awakening over a few of the worse accelerants.

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With act on impulse being strictly worse than than jeskas will, which one do you want in the sideboard? Where do you prefer the flexibility?

Also this deck seems like it might benefit a lot from a few valakut awakening over a few of the worse accelerants.

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Opening hand on the play. Ancient Tomb, bonus round, Simian spirit guide, sandstone needle, jeska's will, burning wish, past in flames.

What's the glass cannon play with act on impulse in the sb?

What's the glass cannon play with jeska's will in the sb?

with jeska in the sb
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tomb, simian, jeska for 7, wish for jeska. cast jeska. (9 mana now). cast PiF (5). flashback Jeska (9 again). cast bonus round (6), flaskback other jeska for 6 cards and hope to win with RRR and 6 new cards.
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with RoF in sb and 4 jeska maindeck
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tomb simian, jeska (7), bonus round (4), wish (2) for RoF and Hazoret's undying fury.

cast RoF (5), cast past in flames (R).

flashback RoF (4)
flashback Jeska for mana (15 mana)

cast hazoret's for 8 cards. (9 mana left).

if for some reason you brick and hit 8 lands or just petals/leds and lands/ruby, then as long as you hit some mana, you can flashback past in flames (4 left) and flashback hazoret's.

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I would love to read your notes, however...I can't see it.

Highlight them.

Also, I think the new wheel could be placed in a guttersnipe version like vieko promoted a while back. You'll likely always have more life if guttersnipe is resolved first.

i'm pretty sure i'm wrong about putting 1 of the new AoI in the sb. being able to get +4 mana instead of +2 on turn 1 (compared vs seething song) is probably significant enough to keep them all in the maindeck. that being said i'm not sure i want to have a rite of flame in the sb.

i'm thinking of 3 different ways to take the deck experimentally

1) max out on past in flames
2) max out on empty the warrens
3) play a guttersnipe build which has access to the new wheel

(keep in mind guttersnipe was great for me out of the sb against a lot of decks)

As long as bonus round is in the deck I think it's wrong to not have RoF in the board. Doubling a wish with 1 floating gives lots of goblins or my favourite if I could play 20 card sideboard, pirates pillage. Two floating gives PIF or a wheel.

I also think guttersnipe is worse than ever now when most decks need to answer a t2 arcanist, and most answers to that also stops guttersnipe.

I also dislike empty as there are many matchups that come down to a race.

So of the 3, I like PiF the best.

I have 3 builds of my own that I would like to test.
1) My regular UR with jeskai's will instead of desperate ritual.
2) A mono red LED build with faithless looting and ignite the future and the kaheera force of vigor package.
3) some kind of wild burn heavy build, probably without bonus round and not really ruby at all. But something to really make the most of the new wheel.

that's fair and those ideas are likely dead ends. don't underestimate guttersnipe, especially in a version with bolts.

one idea that worked really well for me a few years ago was using pyromancer ascension. that was however when probe was legal. i'm not sure how it would be now and never put in games afterwards.

it's possible that the rite of flame should stay in the sb. i guess it opens up far too many plays and now with the new wheel if you're ahead in life you can get 14 cards with just R after wish.

Talk to me about this card:

http://mythicspoiler.com/cmr/cards/courtofire.jpg

It is a way to grind longer games, provides card advantage, and is a win-condition. I could see this as being a way to fight through blue-stew decks. We could sideboard into Court of Ire + Ensnaring Bridge, changing our entire game plan from storm to just landing bombs. Just a thought, it seems very good. It might be better in something like Moon Stompy...which we could absolutely sideboard into. We could play Blood Moon + Ensnaring Bridge + Court of Ire. I'm not saying it's good, but I'm saying it sounds interesting, and fun.

I see it as a viable sb plan. With seething song and the new AOI, a deck with lotus petal and Simian Spirit Guide and play this turn 2 very easily, with many times turn 1.

Its possible maindeck is okay, but it likely won't get there often enough. Against fair decks with no maindeck answers to red enchantments, you will likely win the game after a few turns.

Overall I like the card and sb testing is merited.

Jeska's will on turn 1 into 6cc uncounterable Chandra seems backbreaking.

I played a quick league to test out Jeska's Will, got a 1-4. List was monored with LEDs and 4xignite the future, 4x jeska's will. I did not have a fun time
:(.
In three of the matches I faced deafening silence. I hate that card. There is no magic played when that card is involved vs Ruby. Even if I have ways to remove it the game just comes down to if I can remove it before I die. There is no playing around, nothing, just sit and wait for my drawstep. I played 1 anarchy and 2 chaos warp in the sideboard to answer it. (had planned to play force of vigor +companion but force of vigor was to expensive). Even if it was unlucky facing a card that's only 10% of the meta in 60% of the games I just don't find enjoyment in playing Ruby when it's around.

Jeska's will is not a reliable mana source. Opponents mulligan, win the die roll and have a t1 play. I cast it for mana twice, once after a reforge and once on t1 on the play (but opponent had mulliganed to 5).

It's obvious that Jeska's will is better than AoI, but i've never liked AoI and i'm not sure it's _that_ much better so I want to play it. I hope more people test it and find a nice build, but I will keep Ruby on the shelf for now.

That's too bad about deafening silence. Annoying card!

So I'm new to Ruby Storm. I play Gifts Storm in Modern, and Ruby storm (especially when splashing blue) feels a lot like gifts. Has anyone tried splashing blue for more than just BS and Ponder? Could you add counterspells, or some form of tempo cards like remand? I'm really curious with this deck since it looks very fun and interesting to brew with.

Also, is there a discord for Ruby Storm or is it just here?

Always nice with new players!
I've tried intuition, gifts, personal tutor, meditate, impulse, pieces of the puzzle, daze, spell pierce, flusterstorm and some more cards. The problem with the high costed ones is that they make it worth it for your opponent to board in pyroblast/REB. But most of my testing with these cards where pretty long ago. So things might work out differently now. Personal tutor has become better when it can tutor for mana through Jeska's will, so that might be nice to try out again. The best part about playing blue is obv the consistency gained by playing ponder/brainstorm, but also having catch all answers like echoing truth in the board is pretty nice.
I encourage you to try out things and i would love if someone came up with a viable build :)

There is a channel in the storm discord (i can't invite from here), but it's pretty dead.

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Always nice with new players!
I've tried intuition, gifts, personal tutor, meditate, impulse, pieces of the puzzle, daze, spell pierce, flusterstorm and some more cards. The problem with the high costed ones is that they make it worth it for your opponent to board in pyroblast/REB. But most of my testing with these cards where pretty long ago. So things might work out differently now. Personal tutor has become better when it can tutor for mana through Jeska's will, so that might be nice to try out again. The best part about playing blue is obv the consistency gained by playing ponder/brainstorm, but also having catch all answers like echoing truth in the board is pretty nice.
I encourage you to try out things and i would love if someone came up with a viable build :)

There is a channel in the storm discord (i can't invite from here), but it's pretty dead.

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man personal tutor for a seething song is pretty huge. i really haven't touched the deck in a while!

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man personal tutor for a seething song is pretty huge. i really haven't touched the deck in a while!

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Personal tutor for reforge the soul seems even sweeter.

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Originally Posted by Reeplcheep

Personal tutor for reforge the soul seems even sweeter.

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this combo existed before, and i don't think was good enough. even miracles doesn't run this card, it's a bit of a trap, mostly due to sorcery speed.

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this combo existed before, and i don't think was good enough. even miracles doesn't run this card, it's a bit of a trap, mostly due to sorcery speed.

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Unban mystical tutor! I remember getting crushing by reanimator running it.

tonyscapone


3 Act on Impulse
2 Bonus Round
4 Burning Wish
1 Echo of Eons
2 Gamble
4 Jeska's Will
1 Past in Flames
4 Rite of Flame
1 Shatterskull Smashing
1 Desperate Ritual
4 Manamorphose
4 Seething Song
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
3 Mox Opal
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Ancient Tomb
1 City of Traitors
4 Great Furnace
5 Mountain


1 Echo of Eons
1 Past in Flames
1 Chain Lightning
2 Defense Grid
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Faithless Looting
1 Fiery Confluence
1 Flame Slash
1 Fragmentize
1 Grapeshot
1 Peer into the Abyss
1 Pyroclasm
1 Reforge the Soul
1 Tendrils of Agony


happy to see this list on the 5-0. hopefully you're on here and give some insights as to how the deck has improved with jeska's will. i haven't played legacy during most of 2020 and haven't even picked up the wills yet. what did you play against?

So are both sides of this just awesome for this deck?
I think it's worth trying out.
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3b5v...995091.jpg?c=2https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-3b5v...094585.jpg?c=2

Yes, they are good. Phil Gallagher (ThrabenU) just put up good results with Ruby Storm as well. He credits Jeska's Will for a lot of the fancy new power in the deck.

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So are both sides of this just awesome for this deck?
I think it's worth trying out. ..

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It's certainly worth trying out, but, individually, the sides really aren't that compelling. For ruby storm the front side is a bad cost reducer that costs 1 more to cast than Ruby Medallion and the back side is unlikely to see more cards than Reforge the Soul at a similar mana cost.

I think the asymmetry of Harnfel puts it a little above Reforge the Soul. In some matchups Reforge is a big liability, especially anything that packs 5+ Force of Will/Negation. For a long time I relegated Reforge the Soul to the sideboard as a single Burning Wish target, just because the risk of getting Force-d or giving opponent's 7 extra draw to find one. What Harnfel also brings is a higher ceiling. Because you're always trading one card for 2 you can even trade a 'good' card for 2 more cards, simply because discarding isn't really throwing away a card in a deck built around Past in Flames.

I wouldn't discount the Red Mana Battery effect of Birgi, either. When you don't lose mana the risk of going all-in on rituals is somewhat mitigated. It does turn removal on from opponents, but when you have the option to play either side I think it is a strong option. I've been sideboarding Guttersnipe pretty much since I picked up the deck a couple years ago so this could be another option for a sideboard creature plan.

Considering Bonus Round, I wonder if Skatterskull Smashing in the board is worth it. Burning Wish to find a land could be good set up. Extra Burning Wishes or Bonus Round. Also Ruby Medallion lowers the cost of BW to a single R.

I got some incredible insight from the most recent Leaving a Legacy podcast: Rite of Flame x1 in the sideboard is correct, not because you will ever Burning Wish for it alone, but with Bonus Round doubling it you want the option to get both mana and business. Shatterskull seems to fit the same strategy, which means you can make a land drop and get business if you double your Burning Wish.

There's been advocating of bonus round and sb rof for quite some time. Vs non blue decks seething song bonus round led burning wish with a rof and hazoret's in the sb is usually game over.

// 12 Artifact
4 Lotus Petal
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Lion's Eye Diamond

// 2 Creature
2 Simian Spirit Guide

// 9 Instant
4 Manamorphose
4 Seething Song
1 Desperate Ritual

// 14 Land
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Sandstone Needle
6 Mountain

// 21 Sorcery
3 Rite of Flame
4 Burning Wish
2 Past in Flames
4 Bonus Round
4 Act on Impulse
4 Jeska's Will
1 Ignite the Future


sb would have at a minimum:

1 grapeshot
1 tendrils of agony
1 empty the warrens
1 rite of flame
1 past in flames
1 hazoret's undying fury
1 sadistic sacrament
3 scab-clan beserker
1 fiery confluence
1 echo of eons
1 ignite the future
1 empty the warrens
1 reforge the soul


Just saving this here for now.

I am only just making an account but yes I am now here. My list has changed quite a bit since this and I am writing a primer of sorts. I will post as soon as I am finished. I have spent about 2-3 months 4-5 leagues a week testing various iterations and have been recording my thoughts and conclusions throughout. I will have a pretty thorough finished product along with a couple lists that I find to be actually competetive. To give you a teaser the deck no longer runs Bonus round, rite of flame, simian spirit guide, desperate ritual... it is permanent based with a TES package (3 opals, 3 chrome mox) 3x birgi, 3x EXPERIMENTAL FRENZY. I'll be streaming TONIGHT (3/2/21 Tuesday) and the Sunday Challenge 3/7/21
Www.twitch.tv/tonyscapone
I will provide links soon to finished lists and my primer.

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I am only just making an account but yes I am now here. My list has changed quite a bit since this and I am writing a primer of sorts. I will post as soon as I am finished. I have spent about 2-3 months 4-5 leagues a week testing various iterations and have been recording my thoughts and conclusions throughout. I will have a pretty thorough finished product along with a couple lists that I find to be actually competetive. To give you a teaser the deck no longer runs Bonus round, rite of flame, simian spirit guide, desperate ritual... it is permanent based with a TES package (3 opals, 3 chrome mox) 3x birgi, 3x EXPERIMENTAL FRENZY. I'll be streaming TONIGHT (3/2/21 Tuesday) and the Sunday Challenge 3/7/21
Www.twitch.tv/tonyscapone
I will provide links soon to finished lists and my primer.

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it's really nice to see how you've been brewing in your own way with the deck and have pushed it into yet another direction. will try to check out your games as soon as possible.

Seems cool, i'm too a fan of Mox Opal and i think it's somewhat overlooked in Legacy

New Dragonstorm List!

10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
1 City of Traitors

4 Ruby Medallion
2 Lotus Petal

3 Birgi, God of Storytelling
3 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Terror of the Peaks
1 The Ur-Dragon
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan
1 Lathliss, Dragon Queen
1 Atarka, World Render

4 Burning Wish
4 Seething Song
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
3 Dragonstorm
3 Irencrag Feat
3 Jeska's Will
2 Pyretic Ritual

Sideboard:
4 Defense Grid
3 Blood Moon
2 Pyroblast
1 Shatterskull Smashing
1 Dragonstorm
1 Irencrag Feat
1 Mizzix's Mastery
1 Boiling Seas
1 Anarchy


This deck is great fun to play with. Birgi/Horn give it a whole new way to tango, particularly with the horn. If you hold a dragonstorm and a burning wish in hand but not enough mana to generate your combo, you can discard the dragonstorm to the horn and find mizzix's mastery with the wish, casting mastery targeting d. storm. Which seems in my opinion like a better idea than what I was previously doing for 5 mana, which was reforge the soul. Yes, reforge gives you more looks at burning wish, but the symmetry was often too painful. I really like this list but think that the 'board could use with some tinkering. particularly due to the fact that it seems that Death and Taxes is a fairly favorable matchup, excepting thalia. Therefore it seems that anarchy might be somewhat of a poor choice. But I'm unsure to be honest. Maybe a past in flames could be good maindeck in place of a jeska's will, which, as has been noted here, is not always a reliable source of mana. Super fun to play though.

now i'm playing that list:

// 60 Maindeck
// 8 Artifact
4 Ruby Medallion
4 Lotus Petal

// 4 Creature
4 Birgi, God of Storytelling

// 15 Instant
4 Seething Song
4 Manamorphose
3 Desperate Ritual
4 Valakut Awakening

// 14 Land
8 Mountain
3 Ancient Tomb
3 Sandstone Needle

// 19 Sorcery
2 Past in Flames
3 Rite of Flame
4 Act on Impulse
4 Burning Wish
3 Bonus Round
3 Reforge the Soul


// 15 Sideboard
// 3 Artifact
SB: 3 Defense Grid

// 12 Sorcery
SB: 1 Past in Flames
SB: 1 By Force
SB: 1 Cave-In
SB: 1 Shattering Spree
SB: 1 Chain Lightning
SB: 1 Bonus Round
SB: 1 Empty the Warrens
SB: 1 Grapeshot
SB: 1 Fiery Confluence
SB: 1 Rite of Flame
SB: 1 Finale of Promise
SB: 1 Ignite the Future


That is a classic list, but i've try Birgi and Valakut Awakening. Birgi is strong in each part of the card, of course. Valakut is strong, like Act on Impulse (that probably is the worst drawer 'cause we can use better the Horn side of Birgi with more reforge). i like the list a lot, but i don't test with all the decks. I did a lot of test against Echo Storm and D&T. I want try against delver and ANT next time.

Cool list. Missing jeska's will or maybe just a replacement for AoI

Looked at it again, what I do like about this list is the ability to run a lot more lands than most versions. I'm not crazy about Reforge anymore, but it does steal a lot of wins vs non blue decks. It does make sense in your build, which is always looking to refill the hand for valakut.

I've always liked playing the led version. I understand it wouldn't play well with the valakut. It could still make sense to run led since you can flop into a Reforge.

How often are you casting birgi and winning the same turn, or casting birgi and winning the following turn?

I've been quite busy with the deck. Here are my links. I streamed a Top 8 run for a Sunday Challenge and edited + put it in my YouTube. I wrote a 20+ page article and got it published on theepicstorm.com. Check it out! :D

@TonyScapone on twitter and TonyScapone on MTGO

https://theepicstorm.com/the-epic-ruby-storm/

https://youtube.com/channel/UCjjDWbkVroC3zKakInA5SgQ

https://www.twitch.tv/tonyscapone/

https://www.streamdecker.com/mydecks

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I've been quite busy with the deck. Here are my links. I streamed a Top 8 run for a Sunday Challenge and edited + put it in my YouTube. I wrote a 20+ page article and got it published on theepicstorm.com. Check it out! :D

@TonyScapone on twitter and TonyScapone on MTGO

https://theepicstorm.com/the-epic-ruby-storm/

https://youtube.com/channel/UCjjDWbkVroC3zKakInA5SgQ

https://www.twitch.tv/tonyscapone/

https://www.streamdecker.com/mydecks

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The article at mtgtheepicstorm is very good. Shouldn’t that be enough to qualify as a primer and get this moved up to established?

Hi all, i like to see other versions of this deck but i’d rather prefer to follow the original guideline based on passing through the countermagic with a ton of spells.

I think that the “spirit” of this deck wants to enjoy playing spells and cards like bonus round, hazoret’s undying fury, reforge the soul etc... give us that crazy play.

I neither think that Ruby Storm is a “meme deck”, it was born 4 years ago to give us fun and i want to mention Mistercakes and Viecko, the authors.

Thank you guys!

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Originally Posted by TonyScapone

I've been quite busy with the deck. Here are my links. I streamed a Top 8 run for a Sunday Challenge and edited + put it in my YouTube. I wrote a 20+ page article and got it published on theepicstorm.com. Check it out! :D

@TonyScapone on twitter and TonyScapone on MTGO

https://theepicstorm.com/the-epic-ruby-storm/

https://youtube.com/channel/UCjjDWbkVroC3zKakInA5SgQ

https://www.twitch.tv/tonyscapone/

https://www.streamdecker.com/mydecks

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Thank you Tony for posting this, I read your article on theepicstorm and I found your deck quite interesting. Within your article and in some of your videos, I noticed that you mentioned you were having a difficult time with Deafening Silence and maybe some other permanent hate that made your deck difficult if not impossible to work. I am wondering if you considered adding the card Introduction to Annihilation to the sideboard? Introduction to Annihilation can be fetched with Burning Wish and not only can it exile just about any permanent threat, it can also act as disruption from against your opponent. Also I am wondering if 2-3 copies of Introduction to Annihilation can work in place of Shattering Spree, Pyroclasm and Chain Lightning? Replacing these would make the sideboard more streamline and you could add board in some Introduction to Annihilation in games 2-3 if needed so you don't have to use a very valuable Burning Wish. Since Introduction to Annihilation is all colorless, you don't need to produce colored mana to cast it and since your deck provides so much mana, casting it a five may not be too much of a problem. Adding Introduction to Annihilation to your sideboards and possibly main deck may not make your deck so vulnerable and may can give it some more disruptive option.

Just an additional thought that is directed at everyone. Is Introduction to Annihilation good for all Ruby Storm variants?

Just some thoughts and I am looking forward to feedback.

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The article at mtgtheepicstorm is very good. Shouldn’t that be enough to qualify as a primer and get this moved up to established?

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I think so. Working on moving it now.