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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I personally would take the Saga frames over Amonkhet promos.
The art was nice but trying to figure out what the card is was a nightmare.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
(nameless one)
I personally would take the Saga frames over Amonkhet promos.
The art was nice but trying to figure out what the card is was a nightmare.
Yeah they had zero "glance value". Im so used to just look over some detail and know what card it is. It feels so wrong to actually have to read a card.
Also squee the imortal, another cast from exile guy. Goblin food chain (win with sgc)?!?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
HdH_Cthulhu
Yeah they had zero "glance value". Im so used to just look over some detail and know what card it is. It feels so wrong to actually have to read a card.
Also squee the imortal, another cast from exile guy. Goblin food chain (win with sgc)?!?
Food Chain mana only casts creature spells, it doesn't count towards abilities. In order to go infinte with SGC, you'd need Skirk Prospector.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Hanni
Food Chain mana only casts creature spells, it doesn't count towards abilities. In order to go infinte with SGC, you'd need Skirk Prospector.
It has the exact same wording as Misthollow Griffin..
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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bruizar
It has the exact same wording as Misthollow Griffin..
He is talking about the fact that you can't use Food Chain mana to activate SGC in order to actually go infinite.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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ReAnimator
Why?!
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
its blog format thats popular by the kids...
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Just found out all Artifacts are to be classed as "Historic". Can someone please explain to me what Slash Panther did to earn such an honour.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Dice_Box
Just found out all Artifacts are to be classed as "Historic". Can someone please explain to me what Slash Panther did to earn such an honour.
Killed a bunch of Jaces. It earned it.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Stuart
Killed a bunch of Jaces. It earned it.
Haha spot on
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Dice_Box
Just found out all Artifacts are to be classed as "Historic". Can someone please explain to me what Slash Panther did to earn such an honour.
Huh?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Zombie
Huh?
Quote:
Historic is a game term introduced in Dominaria. It’s a mechanic unique to Dominaria, and not meant to be evergreen.
Historic refers to any card that has:
The Legendary supertype,
The Artifact card type, or
The Saga enchantment type.
Some abilities trigger "whenever you cast a historic spell." They don't trigger if a historic card is put onto the battlefield without being cast. Legendary Lands are never cast.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I'm just glad they went with "a historic" instead of "an historic." I'm not sure why, but an historic really bugs me...
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Let me get this right:
If i have a card in play which "does X if a historic spell is played" in Legacy, it would trigger from all legal Legends & artifacts?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Anything good that triggers in the set? Baubles and other free shit get much better if so
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Megadeus
Anything good that triggers in the set? Baubles and other free shit get much better if so
Probably not - all the best historic triggers are 4 mana
Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle
3W
Legendary Creature - Bird Cleric
Flying
Whenever you cast a historic spell, return target creature card with converted mana cost 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
2/2
Plus any good 3 mana or less sacrifice creature plus baubles?
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain
2UR
Legendary Creature - Human Artificer
Whenever you cast a historic spell, draw a card. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
3/3
Baubles are 0: Draw a card.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
There's also Jhoira's Familiar. 2/2 Flying for :4: with Historic spells you cast cost :1: less to cast.
Just in cast you needed any more artifact discounting effects in your deck
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
At least SDT is banned to prevent more stupid shit with double SDT.
@Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle:
I know it's alot of cards and thus most likely not viable, but it + Junk Diver + :0: mana artifact that puts itself into the GY (even Walking Ballista should work for the extra value outside of the combo) + sac out wincon would work.
Good luck assembling the whole thing and getting creatures back through DRS, though.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Cire
Probably not - all the best historic triggers are 4 mana
Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle
3W
Legendary Creature - Bird Cleric
Flying
Whenever you cast a historic spell, return target creature card with converted mana cost 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
2/2
Probably not good enough, because 4 mana is a lot, especially with Salvagers in the deck already, but this could be interesting to at least try in something like BW Bomberman with Mentors, as a backup plan, by allowing your Baubles to get back Mentor/Confidants and restock on resources.
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Barook
At least SDT is banned to prevent more stupid shit with double SDT.
It's almost as if we could have seen that coming...
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
H
Probably not good enough, because 4 mana is a lot, especially with Salvagers in the deck already, but this could be interesting to at least try in something like BW Bomberman with Mentors, as a backup plan, by allowing your Baubles to get back Mentor/Confidants and restock on resources.
It's almost as if we could have seen that coming...
You were also right about the Vizier of the Menagerie topdeck-peek getting more popular -- there's another in this set.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Barook
At least SDT is banned to prevent more stupid shit with double SDT.
@Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle:
I know it's alot of cards and thus most likely not viable, but it +
Junk Diver + :0: mana artifact that puts itself into the GY (even Walking Ballista should work for the extra value outside of the combo) + sac out wincon would work.
Good luck assembling the whole thing and getting creatures back through DRS, though.
There is also Myr retriever!
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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maharis
You were also right about the Vizier of the Menagerie topdeck-peek getting more popular -- there's another in this set.
I didn't even remember saying that, but it seems I did.
I mean, it's easy for us to say that Wizards is clueless, because sometimes it sure seems they are. And, proof positive, they have made some poor decisions in regards to Standard, that is for certain (and maybe Vintage, or maybe it was inevitable) On the other hand, they do have a good deal of information we simply can't and won't ever have, or at least, not have until much later. It's tough, but perhaps there is still a baby in that bathwater. It remains to be seen how the Jace & Bloodbraid moves workout for Modern, but all things considered, I think Legacy might have gotten the best treatment, with respect to the B&R of any format, at least lately.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Rules question about Leyline of Singularity:
Does it cause historic cast abilities to trigger? I assume not, as the cards should become legendary only once they hit the battlefield as far as I understand it.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
H
Probably not good enough, because 4 mana is a lot, especially with Salvagers in the deck already, but this could be interesting to at least try in something like BW Bomberman with Mentors, as a backup plan, by allowing your Baubles to get back Mentor/Confidants and restock on resources.
That sounds like a good starting point if any valuable cards with the mechanic are printed. Salvager + LED + Johira draws your deck. I originally asked because of Affinity shenanigans to get value out of lategame Moxen & Co
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Barook
Rules question about
Leyline of Singularity:
Does it cause historic cast abilities to trigger? I assume not, as the cards should become legendary only once they hit the battlefield as far as I understand it.
Nope, would have to say "all cards" or something like that for cast abilities to work. Historic ETB ought to work.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Barook
Rules question about
Leyline of Singularity:
Does it cause historic cast abilities to trigger? I assume not, as the cards should become legendary only once they hit the battlefield as far as I understand it.
Not what you asked, but I believe LoSingularity spiked because it lets you cast the 'legendary' sorceries.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Phoenix Ignition
I'm just glad they went with "a historic" instead of "an historic." I'm not sure why, but an historic really bugs me...
Why would they go with "an historic"? It's not even grammatically correct.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Lord Seth
Why would they go with "an historic"? It's not even grammatically correct.
British English vs. American English. In British English, the H is silent. Thankfully, this game uses American English. I, too, shudder at "an historic."
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
This might be worth some slots for Eldrazi Stompy and the like:
Zhalfiran Void
Uncommon
Land
When Zhalfiran Void enters the battlefield, Scry 1.
t: Add C
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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ReAnimator
This might be worth some slots for Eldrazi Stompy and the like:
Zhalfiran Void
Uncommon
Land
When Zhalfiran Void enters the battlefield, Scry 1.
t: Add C
I would rather run more Wasteland/Field of Ruin + Wastes or Manlands over this in the utility land slot.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Maybe? Scry one is not really better than anything we would already run in Stompy.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp 4UU
Legendary Creature - Djinn
Flying
You can pay 3U and tap an artifact you control instead of paying the mana cost of this spell.
5/6
I mean . . . isn't this really east to cast for 3U? Especially in stompy builds with Chalice's and Trinisphere?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Cire
Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp 4UU
Legendary Creature - Djinn
Flying
You can pay 3U and tap an artifact you control instead of paying the mana cost of this spell.
5/6
I mean . . . isn't this really east to cast for 3U? Especially in stompy builds with Chalice's and Trinisphere?
It is, although tapping down your 3sphere is counterproductive. Equipment is another prime candidate of being tapped down and not giving a fuck.
Also, how does it work as your commander, considering WotC is trying to push Standard Commander as a format now (called "Brawl")? That kinda explains the legend-heavy set theme, though.
Edit: So this is the new frame for legendary creatures:
https://media.wizards.com/2018/ddu/en_kJyXLCZnO1.png
If it's similiar to this for all colors, that's rather disappointing.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Barook
Well poop. I was hoping it would be subtle yet pleasant like the Miracle card frame or the Theros enchantment card frame.
This card frame on the other hand is neither. GET A HAIRCUT YOU DAMN CARD FRAME HIPPIE
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I am still underwhelmed by the "planeswalker spellbook" frames i saw yesterday and in shock because of the "historic" nonsense layout. Today i have to see "legend frames" too.
This is going overboard. I get special boarders for mechanical matters as an indicator (like Miracle), but for Legends & such is meh.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Barook
It is, although tapping down your 3sphere is counterproductive. Equipment is another prime candidate of being tapped down and not giving a fuck.
Ha. . . . oops :laugh:
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
http://mythicspoiler.com/dom/cards/d...henparagon.jpg
A shame she isn't a Soldier for Soldier Stompy. That said, I like the card - the mana cost is easy on the white count, good balance between offence and defense, lifegain out of the wazoo, great equipment carrier, enables shenanigans (Jitte card + equip for 3 mana, Sword cast + equip or Batterskull hardcast for 4 mana), fetchable with Recruiter and can be defended with Karakas. Competition is tough in D&T, though, and the question is if all of this is worth it over other 3-drops, especially Mirran Crusader.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
She'll be a voltron commander in Brawl :tongue:
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I wonder if that Zhalfiran void land could be useful in Dragon. I don’t recall what the holdup has been for that combo. But I betcha it is one of those that are waiting in the wings for the right card to come along.