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Dragon's Approach
2R
Sorcery
Common
Deal 3 damage to each opponent.
You may exile Dragon's Approach and four other cards named DA from your graveyard. If you do, search your library for a dragon and put it into play. Your deck may contain any number of cards named DA.
Holy crud!!! Finally a combo card I can get behind. Likely degenerate as fuck given the tutoring and zero mana requirements, but still, COOL CARD.
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Originally Posted by morgan_coke
Dragon's Approach 2R
Sorcery (C)
Dragon's Approach deals 3 damage to each opponent. You may exile Dragon's Approach and four other cards named Dragon's Approach from your graveyard. If you do, search your library for a Dragon creature card, put it onto the battlefield and then shuffle.
A deck can have any number of cards named Dragon's Approach.
So you still have to cast Dragon's Approach, you can't just exile it from your graveyard (and you'll need 5 copied at least for it to work)
Are you sure you have to cast it? Those don't look like dependent actions to me, but I'm really far from a rules guru so I could be completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
It's a sorcery. To do anything it has to resolve.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
If it was an activated ability there would be a cost and a colon.
It's still feasible to get four of those into the graveyard quickly, but is there a dragon that's worth the effort?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Is this the best Thrumming Stone Combo?
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/e...preciation.jpg
Are there any redundant A+B combo pieces which could be made use off?
It's just gift ungivens for creatures < X - even for the lowest value of 1, gifts is better (unless there is a 0 mana combo which I doubt)
https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/sta...25345145958400
Pretty good combo with the new Conspiracy Theorist. Birgi already saw play in a few red Stompy lists. A repeatable draw 3 for 0 mana is pretty strong.
It puts the creatures on the battlefield. So it's more efficient as X gets bigger. For some kinds of creatures, it can also matter that they come into play simultaneously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic (probably not that exciting)
Boreal Druid, Heritage Druid, Quirion Ranger, Wirewood Symbiote?
Coiling Oracle, Elvish Visionary, Multani's Acolyte, Silhana Wayfinder?
There are cute piles with allies.
A fundamental problem is that it's putting a bunch of mana into a single spell that can be countered.
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/l...ghtscribep.jpg
Another white wincon for Chain of Smog.
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/s...venstadium.jpg
A rather interesting mana rock. How do you reach 10 counters fast, though? Proliferate? Any other tricks?
The first that comes to mind:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
https://i.imgur.com/y7XSUdv.png
Keep in mind though, that you still need to have a creature deal combat damage, since it's all one trigger (I'm pretty sure).
And of course Gilder Bairn as well, but the same thing applies.
That's what gatherer spit out for me as well. But then I remembered something far better:Quote:
Originally Posted by H
Winding Constrictor is on curve and significantly cuts down the numbers of counters you need before you can win.
Is that a problem in a deck that presumably plays Allosaurus Rider?Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Speaking of which:
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/research-body/
"Create a 0/0 Blue and Green Fractal creature token. Put X +1/+1 counters on it where X is the number of cards in your library."
Is there a UB janky ramp deck running Allosaurus Rider that could abuse this? To my knowledge this is the first card unconditionally putting in this much power as such a low CMC.
I mean Depths puts in 20 power for CMC zero, so that's a difficult floor to challenge. Sure this could put in more power, but so far there's no incentive for making your opponent doubleplus dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by chunderbucket
You obviously run it in a Battle of Wits deck to assert dominance.Quote:
Originally Posted by chunderbucket
As the rock learned with the monkeys, asserting dominance is key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/s...llsilencer.jpg
It's no Meddling Mage, but I wonder if there's any application for this. It's also a Cleric - if that's relevant. 3 power is also nice.Quote:
"Silverquill Silencer" WB
Creature - Human Cleric
As Silverquill Silencer enters the battlefield, choose a nonland card name.
Whenever an opponent casts a spell with the chosen name, that opponent loses 3 life and you draw a card.
3/2
It's about sending a messageQuote:
Originally Posted by PirateKing
Without meddling mage humans could consider going straight WB and then get to play real non creature spells (plow/rip/silent clearing x4, thoughtseize, deafening silence, actual basics, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Meddling mage and hierarch are the main reasons the deck is 5c.
That seems like it has 'choice card' syndrome. Are you playing this in the hope that the ability speeds up the clock, or is it suppose to hamper the opponent? I think you want something broad like Eidolon of the Great Revel to speed up the clock, or a hard stop like Meddling Mage or Kitesail Freebooter if you're trying to stop big plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/talentexam.jpg
Unlike Surgical, it costs mana, but it also has AWESOME and isn't card disadvantage.Quote:
"Talent Exam" 1U
Instant
Counter target instant or sorcery spell. Search that player's graveyard, hand, and library for any cards with the same name as the countered card and exile them. That player draws a card for each card remove from their hand.
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/fracture.jpg
Should be good SB material.Quote:
Fracture WB
Instant
Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or planeswalker.
Welp there goes the storm scale I guess
http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-conte...Confidence.png
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/pilgrimoftheages.jpg
I kinda like this card.
Vanishing Verse. BW. Instant. Exile target mono coloured permanent.
I thought Fracture (BW instant. Destroy artifact, enchantment or Planeswalker) was decent. Verse is really nice. It does miss most artifacts, but you can hit Marit Lage, Dryad Arbor, Sylvan Library, Jace, the Mind Sculptor etc.
This is very comparable to abrupt decay. Comparative analysis:
Creatures: big extra hits: marit lage, angler/mandrills/whale, dryad arbor, urza. Misses: uro/Coatl/strix. Both miss gaak or hexproof stuff.
Enchantments: hits: curses/rector targets/shark typhoon/court of grace. Misses: cindervines?? Both miss Klothys.
Artifacts: misses everything except Wishclaw and painter, whereas decay is great.
Planeswalkers: hits Jace. Misses Kaya and Dack. Both miss vraska and karn.
Overall it’s applicable to many more targets than decay if uncounterability is not an issue.
Also the biggest misses (uro/chalice) are covered really well by Kaya. Esper is back on the menu!
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/m...ycompanion.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/l...wardbonder.jpg
So white has access to a Leovold-style card draw engine now, although slightly weaker since it doesn't count for you.
https://i.imgur.com/pNuLgMJ.jpg
T: Search your library for a card, put it in your graveyard, then shuffle. If it was an instant or sorcery card, put a +1/+1 counter on Oriq Warlock.
An interesting value proposition. Certainly abuseable, but probably too expensive at 4 and too fragile a body. But if you made it stick, something like Punishing Fire could generate a ton of value (besides just some outright combo).
It can set up Loam + whatever lands you need by itself. Pretty nifty, even if it's expensive. Or reanimation target + Unburial Rites. Takes a while to set up, but is very strong then.
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/bayoubandit.jpg
Text says "as additional cost sac a creature or pay 3".
I'm certain this will see some play somewhere eventually. Things that come to mind are Khalni Garden, Veteran Explorer, Doomed Traveler n shit like dat.
Dies to Goyf. Needed deathtouch or wither.
Apropos of nothing, I kind of hate everything about the flavor of this set. The pandering to a target audience from which I find myself further removed by the hour and the ersatz-Hogwarts pandering make me feel really itchy and like my demographic is, frankly, expendable to Wizzerds.
With that having been said, I haven't been this excited about a set's design and power level in a very long time. I'm seeing a LOT of Commander playables and a number of cards that look like they might make waves in Legacy. What's everybody else think?
Generally benign sideboard options unlikely to change legacy all that much, and a smh mechanic [magecraft] that is poorly designed. There's the mechanic itself, but then you also have to also note the increasing quality of interaction [the legacy playable SB kill spells] and quantity of that interaction...like I get that in standard they want to have more spells and fewer dudes, but that whole system is dead on arrival to this same set's kill suite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce
On the legacy side, we note the general slide towards 5c goodstuff; except this time it's coming on 2c cards that do everything [no longer needing to use so many colors to check so many boxes]. It's a design philosophy that undermines banning DRS and Astrolabe, as the end goal isn't to eventually ban Fetches with less-lopsided 2c disparities.
If magecraft is poorly designed, what does that say about storm?
That's a valid question, but there's a big difference between something that says, "Do nine things then pay four mana for this other thing to win the game" and something that says, "Do this thing, then pay two mana and win the game." In comparison, Chalice of the Void regularly reads, "Play a land, then play this thing and do whatever you want because you win the game unless your opponent concedes, in which case you win the game." For some reason, I'm the only person who seems to have a problem with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
The storm mechanic is excellent, and I won't argue with that, but it's not the mechanic that's the problem with Magecraft: It's that there's already a two-mana card that says, "Win if you have something with Magecraft," and they're dropping 2-cmc Magecraft cards into an environment that has that.
EDIT: I'm actually excited to see what people do with Chain of Smog. It's unfair for me to complain about easy combos when Dark Ritual is a legal card.
Its another payoff for cheap and free spells. Imagine gitaxian probe or treasure cruise is legal.
But that stuff is banned so yeah it just might be fine. But I would still call the mechanic somewhat "problematic"
Prowess is just about combat stats and doesnt trigger on copies - and prowess is still one of the stronger mechanics out there...
It's called the "storm scale" it was purely designed tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
I'll admit, this is the first card that made me snicker for a long time.
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/u...ingredient.jpg
http://mythicspoiler.com/stx/cards/harnessinfinityp.jpg
Seems to expensive to be abusable, but who knows.
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Elimination Ritual
2BG
Sorcery
Destroy each nonland permanent with a mana value of 2 or less. Add G or B for each permanent destroyed this way.
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This on the other hand seems like pretty good value.
It's entirely possible that the cheap and free spells are the problem, and that storm/magecraft are really the symptom of that problem. (Prowess really fits as well.)Quote:
Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu
Of course, Legacy is a format for mistakes, so it seems to me that the magecraft cards fit right in.
At this point wotc should understand that illegitimate game objects (tokens, copies, ETBs worth a card of value) all serve to slowly erode the gameplay experience [most resulting in reduced diversity] of every format.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
The magecraft mechanic [ripping the braindead value away from the same card] shows that they generally understand the problem...but they haven't quite made the leap to realize that magecraft should not count copies because copies and tokens are different aspects of the same problem.
It would be nice if they woke up a little sooner and stuck with cards as the currency in a card game, and that summoning sickness creates interactive play patterns whereas immediate gratification creates blowout non-games.