M12 is bringing goodies. For example:
Titanic Growth G
Instant
Target creature gets +4/+4 until end of turn.
Gladecover Scout G
Creature - Elf Scout
Hexproof
1/1
Thoughts on what this will do?
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M12 is bringing goodies. For example:
Titanic Growth G
Instant
Target creature gets +4/+4 until end of turn.
Gladecover Scout G
Creature - Elf Scout
Hexproof
1/1
Thoughts on what this will do?
gladecover scout is the reincarnation of slippery bogle.Quote:
Originally Posted by zpikduM
certainly an additional force not just to this deck but to
the elven community as well. i like it
titanic growth's casting cost is at 1G not G
The Scout is a Boggle that is immune to Pyroblast so slightly stronger. It also means you could run even more Hexproof creatures. The new Giant Growth is probably too slow and is just weaker than Vines of Vastwood.
Any thoughts on this from the Commander decks? I wondered if it would help with fighting Dredge or if it is too slow...
Scavenging Ooze 1G
Creature - Ooze 2/2
G : Exile target card from a graveyard. If it was a creature card, put a +1/+1 counter on Scavenging Ooze and you gain 1 life.
The card is OK against dredge, you would still need some grave-hate, but it helps. But I think Scavenging Ooze may be maindeck material.
As I said, countering Goyf and Reliquary strategies, and getting bigger in the process, and also getting bigger with your own countered/removed creatures, it's some nice set of skills. Besides, Dredge, Reanimator, target-removal to Loam...
Test material, for sure. Maindeck/Sideboard material, maybe.
Yeah, Ooze definitely caught my eye. A better Withered Wretch in green? I like.
I've seen some lists with a red splash, but I haven't seen a discussion on Assault Strobe, or even Double Cleave.
It really goes along with Berserk and can work almost like Berserk 5th-8th.
I know it's a sorcery, but in this deck it puts a lot of pressure for just one mana.
I've read a lot of complaints on how the deck is dependant on Berserk, and it would be an attempt to fix that.
Also, Kiln Fiend is a great addition to the deck, since you have 8 cards that can give him trample (Berserk and Rancor).
There has been a discussion, I tryed it a little as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by fgsl13
Well, it works. You can change Kavu for Kiln Fiend as well. Just try to fix the manabase, not abusing 2cc, and playing the "free pumps". And can play Mutagenic over Krosa/Seal/Growth since you are faster. And can board Pyroblast/REB.
7-8 Zerk effects are good.
Yeah, I would def. run a RG version if I had access to duals. Do you guys think this deck is fast enough to be able to run Painlands or Shocklands instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gui
Best alternative is a mix of Stomping Grounds, Wooded Foothills and Grove of the Burnwillows (which is good with Kavu). A small enough count of nonbasic could be less succeptible to wasteland, but I wouldn't run less than 19 lands sameway, since a single wasteland against a "1 lander" hand would now mean game. Also, small count of fetchlands to avoid Stifle meaning free-win. And last, it it's a small splash, ponder carefully the amount of red cards. And you need ~11 Forests subtypes so that you can cast Invigorate properly evey match.Quote:
Originally Posted by boneclub24
I'd be thrilled to see a cmc2 hexproof green creature in m12..
Hey, just ordered my set of Berserk from ChannelFireball! Should be able to get some testing in soon! :)
boneclub24, what would you add if you were able to run an R/G version of Berserk Stompy? Would you put in Assault Strobe or Fling? Any other creatures (ie Kiln Fiend) or spells (ie Blood Lust)?
I would probably only add red for Assault Strobe and Kiln Fiend. I would also consider adding Mutagenic Growth alongside Kiln Fiend.
This is my current build, fairly consistent:
Land: 16
16 Forest
Creatures: 22
4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
4 Jungle Lion
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Kavu Predator
2 Scryb Sprites
Spells: 22
4 Berserk
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Rancor
4 Invigorate
4 Seal of Strength
2 Sylvan Library
Sideboard: 15
1 Compost
2 Winter Orb
1 Choke
3 Rushwood Legate
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Gleeful Sabotage
I'm currently playing this deck and having fun at the same time.
Creatures (20):
4x Scryb Sprites
4x Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
4x Slippery Bogle
4x Kavu Predator
4x Silhana Ledgewalker
Spells (24):
4x Assault Strobe
4x Berserk
4x Invigorate
4x Might of Old Krosa
4x Rancor
4x Seal of Strength
Lands (16):
4x Taiga
12x Forest
I currently don't have Sylvan Library but I was thinking of what I can remove once I get 2 Sylvan Library's.
Also, I was thinking of putting in Mutagenic Growth since I already have Assault Strobe in. Do you think we can replace Might of Old Krosa though?
Once Gladecover Scout in m12 becomes available, I'm also thinking to replace Scryb Sprites with them. Increases the number of Hexproof creatures so we do not have to worry about packing Vines of Vastwood.
Let me know what you all think.
Cheers.
Has anyone else been doing testing with different lists? I've been trying out Vault Skirge > Scryb Sprites, but I haven't gotten in nearly enough testing to have a conclusion for that yet. This is everything I plan on testing:
1) Last list Gui posted, involving Zealot and Growth MD
2) Mutagenic Growth over MoOK/GG
3) Vault Skirge over Scryb Sprites
4) Immolating Souleater over 2~4 Kavu/Viridian
You can replace 1 Assault Strobe and 1 Sprites for a couple Libraries. MoOK shouldn't be replaced by Mutagenic Growth IMO. The only card that seems like it could be run over MoOK is Giant Growth (And that is for a more combat-orientated list, unlike yours). MoOK seems fine here, but feel free to test it (that was one of the changes I was going to test)Quote:
Originally Posted by Khell
I think Reckless Charge can be a good card in R/G version ;)
Its ok, but in the red/green version of the deck each card is really combating for slots. if you are fitting in copies of reckless charge then that means you are losing copies of other cards that are potentially better, like invigorate or might of old krosa. Reckless charge is only really worth it when its hitting kiln fiend, and that only happens every so often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic-Style
Its ok, but in the red/green version of the deck each card is really combating for slots. if you are fitting in copies of reckless charge then that means you are losing copies of other cards that are potentially better, like invigorate or might of old krosa. Reckless charge is only really worth it when its hitting kiln fiend, and that only happens every so often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic-Style
im trying to add GSZ in the list.
and this what i currently have.
i know this one seems different
from what we used to run, but
believe me, its the same banana.
any thoughts?
3 waste, 5 G_fetches, 1 arbor dryad, 8 forest
4 kavu, 2 skyshroud cutter, 4 wall of roots
4 wall of blossoms, 4 llanowar, 4 ESG,
1 thrun the last troll
4 berserk, 4 vov, 4 invigorate
4 R.silence
2 sylvan library
4 GSZ
How does this new guy look?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...hmentid=120483
He is potentially a 4/4 for :1::g::g:, but needs to have :g: pumped into him every turn. He can also be evasive, though.