Turn1 on GSZ seems fine. Turn2 flashback with Veteran Explorer on StP if possible, I guess.
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Turn1 on GSZ seems fine. Turn2 flashback with Veteran Explorer on StP if possible, I guess.
On my local forum someone argued that you could just as well play Veteran Explorer turn one because there's an equal chance of the opponent playing Thoughtseize /Inquisition of Kozilek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian23
Stp is more prevalent than discard (I believe).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelis
How are people not playing 4 Pernicious Deed in their Deed deck? I feel like a solid half of your matchups come down to the amount of deeds you're able to put on the board.
I've been OK with three Deeds. Between Top to find them and Eternal Witness (which is a GSZ target) to get one back, it seems to work out pretty well. The list is pretty tight.
Several posts ago someone proposed an eldrazi version of the deck. It seemed really strong, but very little response was made. Why?
It did feel like it crushed matchups that were allready good for nicfit. Does anyone know how it fared against other decks?
I tested the deck out a little. Didn't seem as great as the OP made it out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hencules
It seemed that it was impossible doing anyting without resolving primeval titan.Quote:
Originally Posted by guelahpapyrus
But resolved is gg for opponent ? Note that it can't be stopped by any kind of removal which Nic Fit have sometimes problem WoG or new UW tool - Terminus and Nic Fit still doesn't have any good wincon. Also why cant do anything ? It can do same as Nic Fit - put deed play some ramp disrupt opponent hand core is the same.
Also it can just win with fast Karn which is just better Jace in this deck.
Thoughtseize/Inquisition are going to take something relevant anyway, like removal, a Liliana, a Deed or a Zenith but their Swords to Plowshares has no good targets except for Explorer. So you don't want to give them a good target which is why "Explorer go" is wrong in the scenario described on the last page. I am undecided between playing a blind Therapy on Brainstorm and passing the turn. So far I have always waited but the arguments for blindly going for Brainstorm are not bad either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelis
What about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tao
T1:
Land, pass
If they play a blue fetch,
T2:
Therapy, naming daze
Explorer
Flashback therapy naming other business
Trollface
If they brainstormed in response to either therapy, they have to decide whether to get 2 lands or shuffle away the "goods"
Daze is far less played than Brainstorm.
On top of that Daze is a lesser problem than Brainstorm. If you name Brainstorm and they have Daze you will see it so you can just wait a turn to play around Daze. On the other hand if you name Daze and they have Brainstorm you will not get much out of the deal. Forcing them to play an early protective Brainstorm is not as good as getting their best card.
I think getting repetitive wastelands out disrupts the deck just as well. But maverick is one of the few decks that can do that, an is allready easy for nic fit. Resolving primeval titan allowed for a lot of cool things. I still do think traditional lists are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal
Do you guys know of any good maindeckable answer to punishing fire? ooze is not enough, its to easy to play around... or it gets countered. i have been loosing to that card for a while now. Thrun is good against the card however he can't do anything when goyfs enter the battlefield.
Kitchen finksQuote:
Originally Posted by zathe922
Imo you shouldn't worry too much about decks running PF AND can counter your ooze, those are pretty rare atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by zathe922
Seriously? They can use the life gained from a persisting Finks to rebuy Fire right away, even without an active Grove.Quote:
Originally Posted by Star|Scream
So gaining life is bad against decks with red, now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipp2293
Decks running Punishing Fire are rarely dedicated burn decks, its just used as removal and kitchen fink doesnt do anything against it.
I see your point. my badQuote:
Originally Posted by zathe922