[Deck] Dragon Stompy

Oh sweet lord. I don't know how many times I have to quelch this myth of "SoFI is bad on a Dragon". I have played DS longer than any of you foo's and sword on a Dragon has NEVER cost me a game as compared to Jitte. The closest it ever came was a race against combo, but Jitte would have left me 2 life short of winning. Sure, it takes away double strike, but all you're left with is a ho hum pro bolt/bounce evasive creature that is going to do 7-12 damage, possibly kill a creature, and draw you a card. Woe is me.

As for Trinis main, it really goes to the heart of playing this deck. There are a lot of choices that are both meta dependant (kind of a cop out) and I'm going to call it "risk-reward" dependant. Trini, as well as Arc-Slogger, Seething Song, and equipment all fall in both categories. By cutting them all, you would have an extremely consistent deck that relies on it's disruption to stall. However the deck will be fairly unexplosive. The correct move is to find how many of these elements you want to run (and really a lot of it is personal choice).

SoFI IS bad on Dragon, or at least sub-optimal. If you have another creature, stick on that. You get the DS of dragon + the Bs of SoFI blowing things up.

I find that I like 4 SoLS and 3 SOFI though. I have yet to regret seeing a SoLS. It helps to cover up the sometimes obscene amount of damage I take, plus gets me creatures that are countered (looking at you Magus of the Moon).

I keep some Trinis in the SB because they are amazing against Storm combo, but less that optimal here because of the fact that they must be an early play or are often a bust.

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Originally Posted by Cait_Sith

I find that I like 4 SoLS and 3 SOFI though. I have yet to regret seeing a SoLS. It helps to cover up the sometimes obscene amount of damage I take, plus gets me creatures that are countered (looking at you Magus of the Moon).

I keep some Trinis in the SB because they are amazing against Storm combo, but less that optimal here because of the fact that they must be an early play or are often a bust.

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You're really pleased with SEVEN equipment? jeez... i hope you're not running Jittes too :/ if i ran any it would probably be like 2 SoLS and 2 SoFI, no jittes. Chances are i'll have 3 Swords, i can't decide which one i want to run though. I'm leaning toward fire and ice, if so i'll cut a dragon.

Could someone please try and explain to me why would you want to run a sword of whatever over jitte?

I have serious difficulties trying to understand this..

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Originally Posted by Cait_Sith

I find that I like 4 SoLS and 3 SOFI though. I have yet to regret seeing a SoLS. It helps to cover up the sometimes obscene amount of damage I take, plus gets me creatures that are countered (looking at you Magus of the Moon).

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You run 7 swords in Dragon Stompy? What did you cut for them, Moons and Jittes?

Trinisphere just isn't worth it in the maindeck, and I play in a meta where a large part of the relevant decks are Thresh(like) or Storm. The problem with Trinisphere is that it's useless against just about everything else unless you drop it turn 1 on the play. When I maindecked it, I almost always would have preferred to draw a threat. To top it all off, I can't think of a card other than Jitte that is worse in multiples in DS.

3 in the sideboard is the most I would run, unless half your meta is Thresh or Storm on a regular basis. And Dragon Stompy already has an amazing Thresh matchup and the tools to beat Storm without it.

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Originally Posted by Kuma

And Dragon Stompy already has an amazing Thresh matchup and the tools to beat Storm without it.

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I'll agree with that i guess. I know against my buddy who plays nothing but either TES or SI, my favorite move is turn 1 blood moon and chalice at 0, directly followed by a comment along the line of "good luck with that black mana". Not that i'm afraid of every facing SI in reality, but it's still worth mentioning, seeing as it still is the reigning champion of the highest turn 1 win percentage in the format (somewhere between 40 and 45%).

Well even if they do get rid of the titan while it is on the ground they kill even more lands which you wouldn't even care about especially against the Threshold Match up.

I just threw a pair in my SB for the hell of it since I kept finding that Threshold only runs a few Basics opposed to a dozen. I wouldn't put them in my Main at all but they are really good SB cards combined with Blood Moon effects to punish the nonbasic land players.

What about Shusher? I'm sure he's been mentioned more than once, but wouldn't it fit well at least in the board? Maybe he is and I just missed it. IDK. I'd like to hear thoughts...

i plan to play this on the 24th is there any new sideboard choices?

I reality, no. Nothing that has been printed does a better job at improving matchups than 3sphere, moons, pithing needle, pyrokinesis, anarchy, etc.

I really don't think that shusher, that waste-on-a-stick, or any other shadowmoor card is worth running. Also, Sundering Titan is a bad idea. It's harder to cast than a morphed Akroma, and unmorphing Akroma is already hard to do.

I recently discovered that in my local meta that Burn is a major contender, so I decided that in the build that I plan on building in the coming months that I am going to use Trinisphere as a major part of the main deck because of burn. So here is the build I am working with:

Lands
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
10 Mountains

Mana Effects
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Seething Song
4 Chrome Mox

Beats:
3 Arc-Slogger
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon

Moon Effects
4 Magus of the Moon
3 Blood Moon

Other Locks
3 Trinisphere
4 Chalice of the Void

Equipment
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Umezawa's Jitte

Sideboard
1 Blood Moon
3 Sulfur Elemental
4 Pyroclasm
4 Tormod's Crypt
3 Pithing Needle

I didn't select any of the new cards, because I am not really keen on what some of them do. I do not think they really accomplish anything in the meta that I am playing in other than to slow the opponent down. Taurean Mauler for example is going to make the opponent spend one burn spell or creature removal spell to remove the Taurean Mauler and then I am back to square one. I personally think Akroma is too big for this deck. Other than that I do like the Sulfur Elementals, I just do not think they are main deck material in my current meta.

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Originally Posted by Cathal83

I didn't select any of the new cards, because I am not really keen on what some of them do. I do not think they really accomplish anything in the meta that I am playing in other than to slow the opponent down. Taurean Mauler for example is going to make the opponent spend one burn spell or creature removal spell to remove the Taurean Mauler and then I am back to square one. I personally think Akroma is too big for this deck. Other than that I do like the Sulfur Elementals, I just do not think they are main deck material in my current meta.

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Your reasoning here on the Mauler is a bit flawed, though.

Like, I'm not saying that we should be playing Mauler in the deck. I'm pretty sure that we shouldn't be, unless you're in a meta exclusively of Thresh decks, and even then only in the two or three slots (that I have) for Sulfur Elemental main decked.

But, doesn't every other creature (except for a Slogger) die to a single burn spell? Even a un-morphed Raiders will die to a burn spell during your draw step (unless you play the one instant you have and burn for 5). I'm pretty sure that's an incorrect reason to not play him.

Aren't you also a little threat-light? I play:
4 Slogger
4 Dragon
4 Raiders
4 Magus of the Moon
4 SSG
2 Sulfur Elemental
1 Red Akroma

Why Sulfur in the SB? You shouldn't ever really need to board him in against anything except Breakfast, and that deck is pretty much non-existant.

Also, 19 creatures and 5 equipment is not a good ratio. Sword is best MD material when you have Sulfur Elemental or Mauler with it, so try to fit one of them in (or Rakroma if you want a singleton).

Hi there, today I played Dragon Stompy to a 3-1-1 finish at the monthly tournament in Hassloch (sadly we only had 25 people this time because of other tournaments and non-Magic related stuff happening that same day). I'll write a more detailed report later but I'll give you a short summary now.
My decklist was this:
4 Slogger
4 Pit Dragon
4 SSG
4 Mox
4 Raiders
4 Sulfur Elemental
4 Magus Moon
4 CotV
2 Blood Moon
3 Seething Song
4 Jitte
4 Tomb
4 City
11 Mountain
sb
4 Pyroclasm
4 Needle
3 Crypt
2 Keg
2 Moon

I played
Rd1 vs Fish 2-1
Rd2 vs Geddonstax 2-1
Rd3 vs UGb Grow 2-1
Rd4 vs GB Rock 1-2
Rd5 vs StifleNaught 1-1-1 (played games 1 and 2 then drawed the third game because we were tired)

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Originally Posted by Silverdragon

Hi there, today I played Dragon Stompy to a 3-1-1 finish at the monthly tournament in Hassloch (sadly we only had 25 people this time because of other tournaments and non-Magic related stuff happening that same day).

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What was the top 8?

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Originally Posted by Zork

Why Sulfur in the SB? You shouldn't ever really need to board him in against anything except Breakfast, and that deck is pretty much non-existant.

Also, 19 creatures and 5 equipment is not a good ratio. Sword is best MD material when you have Sulfur Elemental or Mauler with it, so try to fit one of them in (or Rakroma if you want a singleton).

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okay, the reason I run the Sulfur Elemental in the sideboard is because of Angel Stompy which is in my meta, though its only one deck.... Additionally I am not sure where I would put the Red Akroma, but if you all think I should add a Red Akroma I will.

The only question I have is what do I take out for the RAkroma and Sulfur Elementals.... because as it stands right now, I do not want to take out the Trinispheres....

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Originally Posted by lonelybaritone

Your reasoning here on the Mauler is a bit flawed, though.

Like, I'm not saying that we should be playing Mauler in the deck. I'm pretty sure that we shouldn't be, unless you're in a meta exclusively of Thresh decks, and even then only in the two or three slots (that I have) for Sulfur Elemental main decked.

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Mauler is also superior vs RB and RBg Goblins. It helps you avoid turn 1 Lackey, turn 2 Warren Weirding. It also doesn't die to Tarfire, although I'm not sure if most Goblin lists run Tarfire (The two that frequently show up in my meta do). Being superior against Goblins and Thresh is a pretty big deal.

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Originally Posted by lonelybaritone

But, doesn't every other creature (except for a Slogger) die to a single burn spell? Even a un-morphed Raiders will die to a burn spell during your draw step (unless you play the one instant you have and burn for 5). I'm pretty sure that's an incorrect reason to not play him.

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I agree completely. Mauler also has the added bonus of (perhaps unjustly) baiting removal. I've seen numerous opponents StP him turn 1 only to face down a bigger threat next turn. People visibly react to Taurean Mauler; as soon as he hits they're worried about getting rid of him. Mauler sucks late game, but it's not like Sulfur Elemental is much better there. Mauler is a house early on.

The thing is, I think I can afford the Sulfur Elemental and Akroma, I am not so sure about 3 or 4 Taurean Mauler....

3-4$ pr Mauler doesn't seem that budget-killing to me..

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Originally Posted by Hightower

3-4$ pr Mauler doesn't seem that budget-killing to me..

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I thought they were more like 8-10 dollars per mauler... last time I checked that is where they were... granted that was when Morningtide had just come out >.<;

Hmm... I just went to Ebay and looked at their price, apparently they have gone down in price... I am going to have to reevaluate my deck build... still not sure what to take out for Taurean Mauler, Sulfur Elemental or Akroma... my theory is the Umezawa's Jitte as I still want to have the Trinisphere in the main deck....