Re: [Deck] Imperial Painter
It looks like this deck is on track to earn back it's "deck to beat" status since mental misstep has come and gone. I think I'll be sticking to the monored build for the time-being in light of the results of GP Amsterdam. The combination of maindeck moon and red blast is extremely effective against a majority of opposing decks, although it may be meta-dependent.
The GP decklist is available here: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...ms11/welcome#0
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How does this deck answer an Emrakul? For example, from opposing decks playing Show&TellDrazi?
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Typically, I think you just lose G1 or just beatdown?
Post board, you can bring in graveyard hate to exile Eldrazi with their graveyard trigger on the stack.
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How does this deck answer an Emrakul? For example, from opposing decks playing Show&TellDrazi?
Rebs, or win first. Sometimes them play SnT lets you put a vital piece into play.
But it isnt a great matchup
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Originally Posted by
Phelix
Rebs, or win first. Sometimes them play SnT lets you put a vital piece into play.
But it isnt a great matchup
I believe he's referring to how you can't mill out a deck that's running multiple Emrakuls...
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You only need one tormod's crypt from the sideboard to wipe out all the eldrazi in their graveyard after grindstone is finished resolving.
Game one, you have to win with beatdown. Of course, if you can actually stick a painter's servant, it's pretty hard to lose because of the 5 to 8 red blasts which become vindicates/counterspells. Servant plus jaya ballard, task mage can completely lockdown your opponent as well, and both pieces are tutorable by recruiter. I typically find myself winning about a third of my games due to aggro/jaya. In those cases, topdecking a grindstone just speeds up an inevitable victory.
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gg...
back from Amsterdam :)
il post the machups i played against later :)
-Kim Grymer
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Congratulations! I am looking foward to your report
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well here goes :)
the list:
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...0&iddeck=51147
Trial:
Mono black 2-0
RDW 2-1
Bantblade 2-0
Canadian 2-1
Punishing Maverick (big zoo) 1-2 (Fabian Gorzgen that also made it to top 8 at the gp)
total: 4-1
Day 1:
Reanimator 2-0
Maverick 2-0
UW stoneblade 2-1
Merfolk 2-0
Canadien RUG 2-1
ANT UB 2-1
Esperstoneblade 2-1
ANT with past in flames 2-1
Bantblade 2-1
total: 9-0
Day 2:
Maverick 2-0
Bantblade 1-2
BUG 2-0
Team America 2-0
Next Level Threshold 2-1
Punishing Maverick (Big Zoo) (draw for top 8)
Bantblade or Esperblade draw (draw for top 8)
total: 4-1-2
Top 8:
ANT with Past in flames 0-2
My overall gp amsterdam: 17-2-2
you are welcome to ask questions about by list and the mach ups i played against :)
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Congrats about the finish.
Is there anything you wanted to change about the main deck? and if so what?
And could you go into your Sideboard choices and where did you use them?
(or expected them to use)
Anyway was nice to talk to you in real life :-)
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Originally Posted by 'Jelmerz77'
Is there anything you wanted to change about the main deck? and if so what?
as it is now... i realy liked the deck.. 7 blood moons main was realy the bomb in this GP :D
but i dont know if i would cut one bolt for the 7 blast main :)
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And could you go into your Sideboard choices and where did you use them?
(or expected them to use)
my sidebord:
2 Koth of the Hammer (against the deed decks)
1 Manic Vandal (against stoneforge decks. i like manic vandal alot more then Viashino Heretic becus your opponent got like 2 turnes to finde an answer to Viashino Heretic and thats pretty bad :/ )
1 Nihil Spellbomb (3 GY hate to dodge Cabal Therapy)
1 Phyrexian Metamorph (against online progenitus or emrakul)
1 Pyroblast (against the blue decks)
2 Pyroclasm (against aggro)
1 Red Elemental Blast (against blue decks)
4 Thorn of Amethyst (i didnt want to lose to combo so i needed 4 slots in the bord.. i think its alot better then Tsphere cus you can make it turn 1 realy, realy easy..)
2 Tormod's Crypt (against GY decks and emrakul)
and nice to meet you too :)
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Congratulations Kim, you make me think about pay 500-600€ for 4 Imperial Painters xD
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Hah yeah, I appreciate you making the value of the one Imperial Recruiter I have go up! :)
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Best performance yet with Imperial Painter!
I really like the Thorns. Like you said, easier to get out turn 1 then Trini, and seems more useful against High Tide and Enchantress maybe?
Have you tested a Spellskite in there? I found him to be headache for many decks, especially with Welder.
Congrats Kim! Great job providing more proof that the deck is good in the hands of skilled player.
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DrewliusMaximus
I really like the Thorns. Like you said, easier to get out turn 1 then Trini, and seems more useful against High Tide and Enchantress maybe?
I think Trinisphere is stronger against High Tide as it hinders your setup more, but Thorn is better against faster storm combo as it's easier to resolve T1. They're both a headache for Enchantress, not sure which is better though.
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Originally Posted by
Admiral_Arzar
I think Trinisphere is stronger against High Tide as it hinders your setup more, but Thorn is better against faster storm combo as it's easier to resolve T1. They're both a headache for Enchantress, not sure which is better though.
My theory is that against Enchantress, Trinisphere is stronger since it taxes their draw engine more (they're based mostly on 1 drop enchantments to get the draw engine going).
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Nice work on the finish! Good to see Imperial Painter in the spotlight again.
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Seems like Thorn would be better than Trinisphere against High Tide because it will hit their 3+ cc spells too. Turnabout and Cunning Wish now cost more, etc.
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This deck's only problem is the same that hits Lands.dec: The awsomely huge priced cards.
I mean, buying a The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and a set of Imperial Recruiters isn't the most cheap thing in the world.
That's why these decks represent a few percentage of the field. Still, they're pretty much powerful :)
@GP Amsterdam: Nice results for Imperial Painter, too bad ANT is too fast :(
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Originally Posted by
Vandalize
This deck's only problem is the same that hits Lands.dec: The awsomely huge priced cards.
I mean, buying a
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and a set of Imperial Recruiters isn't the most cheap thing in the world.
That's why these decks represent a few percentage of the field. Still, they're pretty much powerful :)
@GP Amsterdam: Nice results for Imperial Painter, too bad ANT is too fast :(
Well, and he had to mull to 4 in g2 :(