[DTB] Sneak Attack

I don't really like these sideboards. I can understand to cut Blood Moon, did the same now, but not playing red blasts and Leylines is a pretty huge drawback imo.

Progenitus can be raced pretty handily by Maverick if it hits the battlefield after Turn 3. Griselbrand will have a much bigger impact, even if he gets bounced he will get us the combo pieces to Sneak for the win.

I have found Jonathan Hickerson's Nashville-winning list to be the currently perfect one. Darwin played the EXACT same 75 btw. :wink:
(for reference: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46501)

I am currently up to 10 cantrips, 2 Intuition. I think lands and cantrips are the most important elements of a good starting hand. Making sure you do not draw multiple creatures is key. I can even imagine going down to 7 creatures and 11 cantrips.

I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Norm

I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game. :laugh:

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How'd you pull that off? :)

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Originally Posted by Esper3k

How'd you pull that off? :)

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He probably used Chaos Orb and destroyed his foe's board, and then casted his shiny Dragonite. I don't see any other ways.

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Originally Posted by Esper3k

How'd you pull that off? :)

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While 2 fatties off the double show and tell probably allowed him to win next turn. 1 flusterstorm would have been all it would take to not die next turn.

I feel like I should save it for the tournament report, it was rather intricate. :cool:

Additionally, I did not run/cast Flusterstorm

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Originally Posted by JPAnghelescu

I don't really like these sideboards. I can understand to cut Blood Moon, did the same now, but not playing red blasts and Leylines is a pretty huge drawback imo.

Progenitus can be raced pretty handily by Maverick if it hits the battlefield after Turn 3. Griselbrand will have a much bigger impact, even if he gets bounced he will get us the combo pieces to Sneak for the win.

I have found Jonathan Hickerson's Nashville-winning list to be the currently perfect one. Darwin played the EXACT same 75 btw. :wink:
(for reference: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46501)

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But the deck that Top 8'ed ran the Progenitus sideboard: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46817

Could you expand a little bit more upon "I don't really like those sideboards."

I don't think Maverick can race a turn 3 Progen, especially with their equipment coming out. Unless they have a very ideal hand and plow one of their own creatures, I like my chances with a turn 3 Progenitus.

I also thought about Progenitus as tech vs. Maverick.

Decided against it because:

1) Progenitus is still aweful with sneak attack and show & tell (without hate) is still aweful with Emrakul. If you side out Emrakul instead of Griselbrand, Sneak Attack gets even worse.

2) Pithing Needle is awesome hate vs. Maverick and has also applications against other decks which run: liliana, SD.top, Jace and other random stuff like belcher, grindstone,...

No love for Crater Hellion?

-Matt

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Originally Posted by Norm

I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game. :laugh:

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At that point you would need 6 mana and 2 Pierce or 2 Daze and 2 mana/2 Islands. Or untapped with uu3+4r and won.

I think both leylines are terrible for this deck. We saw how well LotV worked out against reanimator. Kastle ran that exact 75 because he'd never played the deck before, borrowed it and quite honestly has no clue about legacy, granted his playskill earned him mtg Hall of Fame.

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Originally Posted by catmint

2) Pithing Needle is awesome hate vs. Maverick and has also applications against other decks which run: liliana, SD.top, Jace and other random stuff like belcher, grindstone,...

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How is pithing needle awesome vs Mav? Those 3 tutorable md Pridemage say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by menace13

At that point you would need 6 mana and 2 Pierce or 2 Daze and 2 mana/2 Islands. Or untapped with uu3+4r and won.

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You're close, I'll explain because I don't feel as though I'll have the time to write a tournament report:


The game has been going long, I sided in Through the Breachx2 and Red Elemental Blastx3, while siding my Show and Tells out, along with one Preordain. He has a Pithing Needle naming Sneak Attack and I've been developing mana to either pay for pacts or hard cast Emrakul, The Aeons Torn. I'm at 14 or 15 and he's at 13.

After discarding many times, he feels comfortable going for it. He hard-casts Hive Mind, I Intuition in response, it resolves. I grab three Red Elemental Blast, then allow his Hive Mind to resolve.

He then casts Show and Tell
*trigger*
We both put cards down, I reveal Emrakul, The Aeons Torn and he reveals Hive Mind number two.
Pact of the Titan
*Trigger* *Trigger* - Retain priority Pact of Negation targeting his Pact of the Titan *Trigger* *Trigger*
I Red Elemental Blast my own Pact of Negation *Trigger* *Trigger*
He aims both copies at his Pact of Negation
I then Spell Pierce my Pact of The Titan#1 *Trigger* *Trigger*
He aims both copies back at my original, I pay
He then Flusterstorms my Spell Pierce with every copy and makes it quite clear that I don't receive storm (I know this)
I take my two Flusterstorms and aim them at my own Pact of the Titans leaving just a Pact of Negation on my side to pay for (I've got access to 12 mana)
He then moves back to his Show and Tell that's been hanging out on the stack, I tell him it resolves and we both place cards face down:

He reveals Griselbrand, but I reveal Griselbrand as well :eek: No seven cards into machine gun death for me today, sir!

He's forced to pass the turn, I pay on my upkeep then destroy him with Spaghetti Monster :cool:

In hindsight, playing Griselbrand first would likely have been correct. But I live on the dangerous side :)

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Originally Posted by Norm

You're close, I'll explain because I don't feel as though I'll have the time to write a tournament report:

"Sick shit"
:)

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That wasnt even close to how i imagined it lol!

Played the following sideboard (standard main w/ 2 Intuition 2 Preordain, 8 counters) at our local weekly last night and was very happy with it:

3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Through the Breach
2 Vendilion Clique
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Echoing Truth
1 Wipe Away
2 Submerge

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Originally Posted by bfeingersh

Played the following sideboard (standard main w/ 2 Intuition 2 Preordain, 8 counters) at our local weekly last night and was very happy with it:

3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Through the Breach
2 Vendilion Clique
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Echoing Truth
1 Wipe Away
2 Submerge

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Thats Almost the same sb 15 I've been running except -1 REB, -2 Submerge, -1 Wipe Away for +3 Blood Moon and +1 Relic. I run a singleton Wipe Away Main. The only thing I changed from a few weeks ago was adding the Cliques. I think 4 pieces of gy-hate is the minimum with Dredge and the fact that our Reanimator match-up sucks, which I can attest to,
and will become more of a presence again. Good thing I'm able to audible and run Reanimator when people start slacking on grave-hate like they have been.

Erm :) I think it's a bit premature, SnT has won...a couple tourneys? It's not anywhere close to where RUG was/is in its heyday, nor maverick. I'll hold on to all my snt's at this point, best of luck philipp, hope you come back!

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

Okay guys,

there's always a point where a journey ends. My SneakAttack journey with all of you ends now. I sold all my Show and Tell-Stuff. All Enabelers, alls Creatures, all Enchantments, all Pacts. This is due to the B/R-Update in a few weeks. Even though I strongly believe that Show and Tell is not banworthy, I cannot say for sure what WotC does. I sent them the results of this poll in this forum with 25-75 for banning Show and Tell. I hope this helps to keep Show and Tell legal. I, for my part, cannot risk to lose 400€ at once. I wish all of you all the best, and keep putting up good results! Thanks for all the good discussions and conversations we had. May the force be with you.

Greetings

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@ Norm - so, it's a massive mistake for him to play Flusterstorm, as it allows you to counter both of your copies of Pact of the Titan (before he played it, you had 1 copy of PotT and 1 copy of PoN to pay on your upkeep). However, probably didn't matter as you had enough mana to pay for one or both copies and a spaghetti monster in play.

Did you talk to him at all after the match and get his reaction?

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Originally Posted by Water_Wizard

@ Norm - so, it's a massive mistake for him to play Flusterstorm, as it allows you to counter both of you copies of Pact of the Titan (before he played it, you had 1 copy of PotT and 1 copy of PoN to pay on your upkeep). However, probably didn't matter as you had enough mana to pay for one or both copies and a spaghetti monster in play.

Did you talk to him at all after the match and get his reaction?

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You're right, and I did have the mana to pay for both on my upkeep. I took a few minutes to talk about it with him after the game, he was a little upset but these things happen. Overall, he was a nice guy and a fun opponent to have at the table. He did, however, have purple hair :eyebrow: