Played the mirror tonight, won thanks to a Gamble for Manabond. Anyone know anything else that you should keep in mind for the mirror? (Other than don't play your Depths.)
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Played the mirror tonight, won thanks to a Gamble for Manabond. Anyone know anything else that you should keep in mind for the mirror? (Other than don't play your Depths.)
For the mirror I think that the plan is to play first one between exploration or manabond...try to attack is grave with bog when they have a loam in it...also the recursion of wasteland/GQ is good sometimes, when his engine do not start...if he do not play Karakas main deck, just combo out after made the board control and advantage on your side.
The mirror is not really good, but it relies upon who view better things and before the other...punishing fire plan is good, but a bit slow, I had difficulty to run into it when I play the mirror...but if possible, just burn down the opponent if possible...
I suggest you to read more information in the first page where MU's are explained...this is only my point of view of the mirror, anyone can say different things
Win the die roll :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
Take this with a grain of salt as I've not actually played the mirror, but mulling to Manabond or Exploration seems pretty important, a slow hand can be easily run over. Moxen are probably quite clutch on the draw to keep even on mana.
Haha. Fair enough. I have to visit that tonight anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by meso94
We have sightly different builds, I run Bog main, he runs Karakas. This makes for an interesting situation where if he gets ahead I can stop him but if I get ahead he can counter me back. I cut Tabernacle, Chasm and Fire from the deck to bring in Karakas, Quarter and the set of Grip. Game one was cool with both of us running on all cylinders and ended only once I had the option to recur 4 Wasteland and he only 3. Game two he mulled to nothing and I had the nuts.
I feel like this is the match where luck really matters most. His skill and mine are I feel matched up well and so it was quite a great fight. I found out after the games he did have Rotate in his hand again proving Depths to be a liability if you are not in total control.
Primeval Titan is an unbeatable bomb in the mirror. Whoever resolves it first will win. The trick is getting to 6 mana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
You really want me to play this guy again don't you? I do feel like your point is valid though and with the amount of Graveyard decks locally and the incoming hate with 2 Lands players in a 25 person store, I really can not argue the logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by barcode
Updating the Primer right now. New deck list in, I am getting good at messing with the code that runs the posts here and I updated the bit on Portal. I feel like I am missing something but can not think on what it is. Open to ideas on updates if anyone has a suggestion.
Edit:
On the pimping of my deck. I was playing with the FTV Chasm tonight and just flat decided on a ruling. Nothing FTV is touching my deck again. Those cards are just ugly.
You realize Dice_Box created this thread and wrote that first page right? I'm pretty sure he may have read it once or twice :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by meso94
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Originally Posted by Djehuti
Yeah...I Know that...just ironic sentence, may have put some emoticons for make it sure that the irony could be understand
The week before this GP, I was 50% on miracles, 50% on RG Lands. I hadn't spent that much time playtesting because I had planned (and still am planning) on going to four GPs in a row. SeaTac was the second of these four (I went 1-3 in Indy).
I had a brief talk with people, and I expected miracles to be the most popular deck on day 1, but ONLY at 10% penetration. I expected a bunch of anti-miracles decks like shardless/jund/BUG Delver, and only a small amount of combo.
With this in mind, I decided to sleeve up Lands again (after talking to many Lands people like Chrandersen, Kurt Spiess, and Daryl Ayers).
Bob Huang independently said this: Lands has the best Expected Value if you know how to play it, and since I'm a professional statistician, that's more than good enough for me....
Quick rundown of swiss matchups:
r3 pfire jund (win 2-0)
r4 reanimator (win 2-1)
r5 shardless (win 2-0)
r6 oops all spells (1-2 loss)
r7 Lands (win 2-1)
r8 pfire jund with md surgical extraction (win 2-1)
r9 UWR miracles (win 2-1)
r10 Infect (win 2-1)
r11 shardless (win 2-1)
r12 RUG (win 2-0)
r13 Shardless (win 2-1)
r14 Aluren (win 2-1)
r15 draw vs Shardless
Some interesting plays:
Staging my oppt's basic land in response to him wastelanding it.
Playing my own mox diamond into null rod instead of wastelanding my own riftstone portal to cast loam (OOPS).
My reanimator oppt chumped 20/20 three times with the same Iona. Nice Iona, brah.
Keeping a 4 colorless hand vs RUG and watching him stifle my stage activation on trop, then untapping playing dark depths and staging that.
oh, i also manually ticked down dark depths twice.
once it was vs shardless with 5 minutes remaining in the round (which is why my mechanical actions were so furiously fast/messy).
another time against shardless but i had him completely locked out with choke + ports.
Well done mate! How much work did molten vortex do for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by jarvisyu
it would have been good a fair portion of the time, and it got force of willed twice... /shrugQuote:
Originally Posted by Cfetchcaviar
I saw calc force yours in the final round. Nice flawless victory BTW. 0 perms on his boardQuote:
Originally Posted by jarvisyu
Hey all,
Just got back from GP Seattle. Although I had a pretty poor showing in the main event, I played a lot of Legacy side events and had some awesome results. First I played a ~60man Legacy tournament at the Mox Boarding House which I was able to take down, playing against Death and Taxes, Shardless BUG x2, Goblins and then ANT. The next day I planned to play some grinders but $30 per grinder was pretty insane and I had one of the dumbest losses in the semifinals of the one I did play.
I was playing against Maverick in the semifinals. It was Game 3 and I had the game 1000% locked. On Turn 5 my opponent Swords to Plowshares his own Knight of the Reliquary to gain ~15 life so he wins because of the life total rule. I wasn't too happy, but hitting the semifinals was nice in my mind.
As for the GP - I had some unfortunate pairings and some pretty poor luck. My 2nd round opponent was playing Oops All Spells. He Turn 1 passes and I play a Green source and pass. He comboes off and mills his entire deck - I try to Crop Rotate for Bog...his last card in hand is Pact of Negation...was not too happy so I went 3-3 drop overall.
After that I crushed in 2 Legacy side events going 5-0 in the Second Chance Legacy and then 4-1 in the Legacy Battle #1 on Sunday.
Second Chance Legacy I won against: Merfolk, BUG Delver, RUG Delver, UB Tezzeret and Shardless BUG
Legacy Battle #1 I won against: UB Tezzeret, RUG Delver, Esper Stoneblade and Shardless BUG. My loss was to Death and Taxes where I made a play mistake Mazing the wrong creature - effectively costing me the game.
I was on a RUG Control Lands list all weekend.
Overall, I was super happy with my list as it felt really strong all weekend long and had an awesome time grinding out Legacy despite the weaker performance in the Main Event. Also witnessing barcode's Volcanic Fallout owning firsthand was pretty sweet : )
turns out the wasteland line was probably VERY bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cfetchcaviar
my reasoning for wasting him entirely was to play around submerge + extraction on depths.
this gives him a lot of turns to find needle for maze of ith and kill me, and plus if he had extraction, he would have wasted depths and just surgicaled it anyway
I saw a needle in the ponder cards amongst the surgical which he used to grab your pfires.Quote:
Originally Posted by jarvisyu
in addition, i just remembered this
i could have wasted my own taiga to play around submerge and just stage-depths (making sure calcano was at <5 mana so he couldn't hardcast submerge)
Super congrats to jarvisyu on the win. Just awesome.
thanks! i hope to do as well in atlanta/pittsburgh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gigapatrick
That finale game, so many people in the chat thought you where being an ass, not playing around Submerge.
Good show. Your list is in the primer now. Once on YouTube, your games will be as well.