[Deck] EPIC Painter

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Originally Posted by Choobak

Hello,

If there is some player who drive this deck i'd like some advices to how manage MU. What is your plan against thoses deck :
- Gob;
- Elves (ball and survival);
- Thresh UGr;
- ANT;
- Ichorid;
- Faeries;
- Dragon stompy;
- afownity.

Thanks a lot !

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Goblins: Preboard, combo as quickly as you can. Postboard, you bring in the man plan and stomp them.

Elves: Counterbalance is really good, and will let you play control until you combo them out. Games 2 and 3 are similar, but you need to watch out for Krosan Grip and/or Choke.

Thresh: Again, Counterbalance is really good. Take control of the game and eventually combo out. Postboard the combo comes out for the man plan.

ANT: Counterbalance. Combo. Repeat ad nauseam (lol see what i did there?).

Ichorid: You probably lose this one unless you get the turn 3 win or can disrupt them heavily via Thoughtseize/Force. Postboard isn't much better, but you get Crypts to slow them down.

Faeries: Is that actually a deck?

Dragon Stompy: Your combo is entirely colorless, so while Moon effects may shut down the rest of your deck, they won't prevent you from winning. Chalice, on the other hand, is a problem. Postboard, you have Grip and Explosives, which help somewhat.

Afownity: I haven't played against Afownity, but I would imagine that you just want to assemble the combo quickly, avoiding countermagic via Thoughtseize/Force. Grips seem like they'd be pretty good postboard. I'm not sure whether I would side out the combo or not, but I'd probably bring in the Goyfs.

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Originally Posted by b4r0n

Afownity: I haven't played against Afownity, but I would imagine that you just want to assemble the combo quickly, avoiding countermagic via Thoughtseize/Force.

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Thank you for your help.

I'll try the deck in tournament next saturday and will give you my sensation with it.
I will play this SB :

4 tarmogoyf
3 tombstalker
2 Krosan grip
1 Tormod's
1 relic of progenitus
3 hydroblast
1 EE

And MD, I put -1 ponder +1 DC and use execusioner to replace tormod.

A new question about a MU i played : U-stax.

What is your SB plan here and for W-stax ?

I try to stay in combo mode, because he plays with control magic, but is it the good idea ?

What do ya' think of dis?

Mainboard:
4x Transmute Artifact
4x Bottle Gnomes
4x Tidehollow Strix

Combo? Bombo? Oh-God-No?
-Mono

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Originally Posted by Mono_Thematic

What do ya' think of dis?

Mainboard:
4x Transmute Artifact
4x Bottle Gnomes
4x Tidehollow Strix

Combo? Bombo? Oh-God-No?
-Mono

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Thanks.

Here is the list i'm testing. Comments and suggestions are welcome!


// Lands
1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
4 [ON] Flooded Strand
10 [LRW] Island (3)
2 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [B] Volcanic Island

// Creatures
4 [SHM] Painter's Servant
4 [FD] Trinket Mage

// Spells
2 [LRW] Ponder
1 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
2 [TE] Grindstone
4 [AL] Force of Will
1 [IA] Pyroblast
3 [U] Red Elemental Blast
4 [MM] Brainstorm
3 [CS] Counterbalance
3 [AP] Fire/Ice
4 [NE] Daze

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 4 [IA] Hydroblast
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [10E] Pyroclasm
SB: 1 [TO] Llawan, Cephalid Empress

Isn't that quite different from the original deck? I thought the transformational sideboard was one of the defining qualities of the deck?

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Originally Posted by JeroenC

Isn't that quite different from the original deck? I thought the transformational sideboard was one of the defining qualities of the deck?

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I'm not sure if it's a good idea to shift the win condition post board...

I'm trying this deck today in a local league I'm organizing, I'll let you know how it goes... The decklist would be:

4 Polluted delta
4 Flooded Strand
4 Underground sea
2 Tropical Island
1 Swamp
1 Academy Ruins
3 Island

2 Trinket Mage
4 Painter's Servant
3 Dark Confidant
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstrom
4 Ponder
3 Counterbalance
3 Sensei's Diving Top
3 Lim-Dul's Vault
4 Grindstone
4 Thoughtseize
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Echoing Truth
1 Tormod's Crypt

SB:
1x Tormod's Crypt
3x Krosan Grip
3x Propaganda
1x Engineered Explosives
3x Energy Flux
3x Divert
1x Executioner's Capsule

I don't have the 4x Tarmogoyf yet, that's why I changed the sideboard a little bit... In my meta there's a lot of Affinity decks, that's why the Energy Flux are there... Divert is against B/W discard decks...

Let me know...

Javier

Oh, and what would you side in against CounterTop and how?

You might want to look at the Next Level Painter thread. That's had the most recent activity.

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Originally Posted by Brushwagg

You might want to look at the Next Level Painter thread. That's had the most recent activity.

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Yeah, I know, but the thing is that since I don't have the Tarmogoyfs yet I prefer this build...

Javier

Energy flux is not a combo with grindstone painter. You may want to use Rebuild.

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Originally Posted by jazzykat

Energy flux is not a combo with grindstone painter. You may want to use Rebuild.

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Against a Affinity deck dropping that card on turn 3 just destroys almost every card in their board the next turn...

You just play the combo the turn you win (usually turn 6 with 6 mana) and ready...

That's my line of thought...

Javier

How many people in your meta play affinity?

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Originally Posted by beastman

How many people in your meta play affinity?

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Well, we are playing a league of around 10-12 every week and there are 3 Affinity decks there... That's plenty...

Honestly, spell snare is one of the best cards against affinity. As it hits both ravager and plating, the only really scary cards they have. Snare is much more versatile than flux as well. I'd give that a try over flux first.

Well, I only lost vs Affinity :S Never draw an Energy Flux... :S