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It seems that you have a pretty well developed meta Spankme, and that any deck you choose will have its good matchups and its bad matchups present. That said, if you want to crush blue I would probably run zoo. In the sideboard I would probably run some good grave hate (3 relic, 2 crypt) and some chokes/ vexing shushers and hope for the best against combo.
Well, there isnt that much combo in my meta. My list shows mostly played on left to least played on right - therefore one TES, one ANT (me actually or someone playing my ANT), 2 dredges... And thats it for combo.
My suggestion here would be to run 18 Basic Mountain Burn. Price of Progress looks bomb in that metagame. Post board, you can board in Shushers and other things to deal with Counterbalance and other things.
You also have cards like Flamebreak at your disposal to deal with Merfolk and some Zoo threats as well.
I dont think burn is a great idea. There are two different builds played and both of them are extremely weak each time. I actually faced both and comboed uder the fire. My only two wins on whole tournament, both times.
Zoo might be interesting, since last tournament was won by extended Zoo version with duals from legacy only.
Any other thoughts?
My local store has a ridiculous metagame:
3 Ad Nauseum Combo
2 43 lands
2 Dragon Stompy
1 Iona Reanimator
1 Faerie / Standstill deck
Various uncompetitive / Janky decks
There is no Zoo at all. The only copies of counterbalance I've seen at the store are the ones I own.
I can play almost any legacy deck imaginable (except Survival, Tombstalker, City of Traitors based decks.)
Thanks for the help.
Maybe something like Moon Thresh would be good in this meta. The deck is a bit dated, but having Blood Moon is a complete house against 43 Lands and Thresh has good combo match ups. Or maybe a Rock/Agro Loam build with discard or Chalice respectively to battle combo, and one could work Blood Moon into the board of either of those decks it they built the MD basic heavy with that plan in mind. The Rock and Agro Loam additionally tend to have good Dragon Stompy match ups, because they dodge Dragon Stompy's hate plan, both decks are sort of mid range and avoid the hate from Chalices and Trinispheres. W/E you decide on I'd definitely run heavy on Fetches and Basics with Dragon Stompy and 43 Land as meta concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by mchainmail
Looks like the 43 land players should rethink their deck choice :pQuote:
Originally Posted by mchainmail
I would play Merfolk with B2B main and Islands only in that Meta. B2B takes out 43 Lands and is reasonable against DS. SB Crypts and heavy Combo hate.
I'm just getting in to Legacy. I'm a past player of various formats. Most of my tournaments have been T1 but also a fair amount of urza/masques T2 and Extended at the same time. I'm really liking the Legacy format but I sold my entire collection.
I'm going to be working with a friend who has a full set of duals and 1 set of goyfs in addition to most of the older playables (force and some other nice stuff)
I know I'll have to buy some cards and will probably start with duals and whatever I need to complete my deck. I'm really not sure what to play and I'd like my first deck to be something competetive but inexpensive (meaning I'd like to avoid goyfs for the time being if I can)
I've been thinking about U/W/b landstill as I'd pretty much only need to buy elspeth and a couple board cards but I'm not sure if there's a better choice for a completely unknown meta.
I really like the idea of some sort of Loam deck but I don't have access to Tabernacle or Goyfe so I think that kinda pushes me away from Loam for the time being, right?
I typically like control although I'm comfortable with combo and aggro-control as well. I couldn't see myself playing something truely aggro.
Any suggestions??
Thanks!
It looks like I'm buying cards now. I've almost got a set of goyfs and I'm buying mox diamonds as well.
I also got a little bit of meta info.
It looks like I'll be playing against a fair amount of aggro and aggro/control (zoo, golbins, burn, etc) not too much combo.
I'm thinking maybe 43 lands or a variant if I can get a tabernacle.
What do you guys think?
Thanks!
Try a super consistent SB with say,Quote:
Originally Posted by neenjafus
4 Zuran Orb
4 Serum Powder
4 Leyline of the Void?!?! Maybe WoG or Firesprout?
3x meta slots.
With all that Zoo and Burn, having god openings would be helpful with Serum Powder as well as having proper SB tools in your opening hand.
Curious what you guys would recommend for a metagame that consists mainly of Dredge, Merfolk, and control (Ug/w)?
Everyone in my meta plays,
4x Goyf
3x Counterbalance
3x Top
4x Force
4x Naught
4x Stifle
Red splash for Red Blast I like pee-pees in my butt.dec
What can I play that stomps the crap out of this?
So legacy coming up at my home shop and i cant decide what to play.
There will be for sure
Landstill, Stax, Goblins, Dreadstill, Ichorid, Goyf Sligh, Eva Green, Merfolk and then jank decks.
Available I have Supreme Blue (but no goyfs), Stax, Landstill or Ichorid.
So the million dollar question is, What do I play?
expecting to face multiple zoo decks, a bit of dredge, burn and thresh. What would you guys recommend?
EnchantressQuote:
Originally Posted by neenjafus
I think my playtest partner will be playing that, actually. So I guess the field will likely include 1 enchantress
Any other opinions?
An aggressive strategy like Zoo, AggroLoam or Boros, with a good sideboard against Dredge.Quote:
Originally Posted by thickasabrick
Zoo with Pridemage and some Krosan Grips maindeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by baghdadbob
Landstill with a good sideboard, geared towards beating Aggro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Kruchkow
ANT or similar fast combo. Alternatively AggroLoam with White for some lifegain options and enchantment removal.Quote:
Originally Posted by neenjafus
My metagame usually consists of 1 dreadstill deck, 1 merfolk deck, 1 mono-red burn deck, 1R/w goblins deck, 1 pox deck, 2 dredge decks, 2 badly made tempo thresh decks, and an EVA green deck. Currently, I have been borrowing a solidarity deck, and it has been a blast to play! However, I seem to auto-lose to 3 of the decks that show up regularly, and that makes me take regular trips to frown town.
Any help for dominating this metagame would be appreciated!
Also, I apologize if my grammar/capitalization sucks; I had to post this from my phone because my computer was down.
Today's Metagame was:
2 Zoo
3 Combo (NLS, Dream Halls, Solidarity(not sure about this)
1 Survival (Bant)
1 Merfolk
1 Aggro Loam
I think Supreme Blue could do well here?
The last tournament featured:
5 Zoo
2 Merfolk
2 CounterTop variants
2 Survival variants
2 ANT
2 Goblins
1 Reanimator
1 Dragon Stompy
1 Leyline + Helm
1 UR Painter
1 Faeries
1 MonoBlack control
1 AggroLoam
1 Intuion/Demigod]
1 Ichorid
Is there a perfect metagame choice that I'm missing?
GP Madrid: What do you expect? What is the best deck to take?
The decks to beat are going to be: Zoo, Merfolk, Bant Progenitus (and to an extent, all kind of Bant decks), Dregdge and ANT.
There is not such a thing as the best deck to take, but if I had to choose one, I'll say that Progenitus Countertop.
Ok, my meta has been taken over by mono-U Dreadstill, Merfolk, Countertop, and Zoo. Ideas on breaking through that? It's getting annoying facing so many Dazes and Forces then hitting Lightning bolts. Makes it hard to choose.
Lands.dec is good if you're in a meta with no combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahcmai
Yeah, Lands.dec looks like a choice I would play there. Just make sure you have enough Zuran Orbs in the SB for the Zoo MU, PoP can be harsh, and also expect Back to Basics postboard against Merfolk, other than this its a nice Meta for Lands.
Again bringing up my request from the previous page, Meta is:
Combo (NLS, Solidarity, Dream Halls)
Zoo
Survival
Aggro Loam
Merfolk
in rough order of appearance, no control, no countertop. I thought maybe Supreme Blue, but then also someone suggested ANT with lots of chant effects.
What's good in a meta that's 50% BG rock?
So far I've had so-so success with Dredge, it's just that sometimes they can hate you out so hard with SB jailers, leylines, etc g2/3
What should I play in a metagame of 30ish people which includes
~3 BG Rock with Natural Order
~5 Monoblue Merfolk
~2 Belchers
~1-2 tendrils
~2 Natural order Counter Top
~2-3 RB goblins
~3 Survival Bant
~1-2 Lands
~2 Landstill
~1 Zoo
What would be the best deck in this metagame?
What would be the best in this list for the metagame ? Canadian Tr-eshold, Natural order Countertop, Bant aggro, Uw Merfolk, U merfolk, Ug Merfolk, Led-less Ichorid.
I think canadian threshold would do very well in that meta.
1)MD Firespout deals with the aggro decks
2)REB make red a tasty choice to one up the other blue based decks.
3)MD Stifles help vs those combos deck
4)PoP is very good against Lands
5)Blood moon may do well enough to warrent a space in the sb.
Haha, that one's actually quite funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHealex
I played it in my first tourney (canadian thresh was my first "competetive" deck back then) and boarded those in
against the ever-reigning Landstill that time.
I pulled it off to land moon turn3 him having just duals on the board but so did I had just mountains as well.
Managed to burn him down from 18 in about 18 rounds or something.
Funniest game I ever had.
(I do not recommend running blood moons in canadian threshold.)
i disagree, i had no problem playing blood moons when i played canadian threshold. Fetching basics is even easier with the new lands now. a basic forest and an island is certainly all you need. Fetch appropriately and blood moon can be your best friend :-P
A lot of the cards that you've mentionned are not played in Canadian ******** :SQuote:
Originally Posted by DrHealex
1) Firespout is not played because it is too mana intensive and it hits your treshed mongoose.
4) PoP hurts you way too much to warrent a sideboard space. The deck runs 6 fetches, 8duals, 4 wasteland
5) Bloodmoon is one of the card that I don't want to see in play, I surely won't put it in my sideboard. Most list don't run basic land because it is suboptimal.
My metagame is lots of fish, some zoo, a couple countertops, and some random decks.
Hmm. maybe that is my problem. I played Canadian Threshold when swans was in some, now I notice it has its own section in deckcheck as SwansThresh. When I made day 2 at GP chicago I had gotten rid of the swan package, and switched to the more conventional one with stifles. My creature base was predators, goyfs, and q-dryads (nimbles werent testing very well) and a counterbalance package along with 2islands,1forest. I also remember having PoP in the side, can't remember if I had the blood moons as well (they were in swans though)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raptor
Oh well. I am sure the deck has evolved since then, so my knowledge may be a bit dated.
I still think a U/g/r colored deck with good cards would do well in that meta :-P
I'm new to legacy, but I have a friend with the cards who's willing to be a sponsor. :-P
The local metagame is a whole lot of red, with burn and goblins both played by multiple people, some zoo, a couple ANT decks, Mono W Staxx, Ichorid, Dream Halls, and a Bant Countertop deck.
I was thinking UB reanimator seems like a fun deck and Iona/Sphinx should handle the mono red decks with relative ease. Does this seems like a good metagame choice to you?
I think it would be pretty good in the meta. The graveyard hate should be pretty minimal (4ish cards) with only one ichorid in there being of concern, doubly so if he is a bad player... unless of course that ichorid player has been dominating there then expect 6-8. W-stax will be a fun matchup for you, that's for sure.
Hey guys, I'm trying to get a feel for a small, but competitive meta back home. I have access to pretty much all of the cards needed for any blue deck in the format. Here are the decks:
The Rock
UB Reanimator
Merfolk
Extended Zoo
43 Land
Team America
I'm thinking Supreme blue would be good, but might canadian thresh also be good? Thanks a lot guys.
Reanimator just won the whole thing in a 2,225-man tourney with the same metagame. It seems like a really good choice. IMO!Quote:
Originally Posted by lewk
Hey yall,
I am trying to decide on what to play in my meta...
I only have three choices currently. Goblins, Crucible Based Poxless pox with fetches/sensei's diving top, and Dredge. (I have the cards for these decks only and currently can't buy much if any more).
There is approximately:
1-2 Merfolk
2-3 Dredge
2-3 ANT
1 Belcher
1 Dreamhalls
1 Golden Grahms/Bomberman combo
1 Life.dec
1-2 Thresh
1-2 Zoo
1 Enchantress
1 Countertop Natural Order
1 stax
3-4 Random jank EDH decks that people play in legacy
Any thoughts :\ ?
TBH, both decks seem pretty bad choices.. :tongue: I'd choose Dredge though, since there's so much combo, and both Goblins and Dredge can't do anything against those. At least Dredge has a better chance against the rest of the meta than Goblins does, save for maybe Enchantress.
Hey Guys,
I am trying to figure out what to do about a deck. I have some legacy cards, but none of the decks I have are really cut out for my meta.
Currently I have Dregde, and Goblins ( No Rishadan ports).
There seems to be too much Combo to run goblins, and too much dredge to run dredge (everyone packs hate for it)
This is approximately my meta:
1-2 Merfolk
3+ Dredge
2-3 ANT
1 Belcher
1 Dreamhalls
1 Golden Grahms/Bomberman combo
1 Life.dec
1-2 Thresh
1-2 Zoo
1 Enchantress
1 Countertop Natural Order
1 stax
3-4 Random jank/EDH
The relevant cards I have for the format (in addition to the decks mentioned above) currently:
4 Chalice
3 crucibles
4 plateaus
1 Bayou
4 StP
4 Cannonist
4 Serra Avenger
4 Vials
4 Wastelands
4 Leyline of the void
7-9 Various fetches (red/black)
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Price of progress
4 Chain Lightning
4 Unmask
3 Kataki War's wage
3 Tombstalker
3 Sensei's Top
1 Jitte
1 Sword of light and shadow
3 Enlightened Tutor
I have no idea what to play/make...
I really don't have any more money to spend on legacy at the moment, but am hoping to trade some of my cards for a deck that would work in the meta listed above.
I thought about grabbing a taiga or two and trying naya sly, or maybe some kind of white weenie, or white stax, but I am burnt out on my horrible ideas, and would like some advice from people who actually know what they are talking about :D
Any thought dudes? Should I stick to one of the decks I have? Should I trade for something that would work better?