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Good catch. When you play it EoT of your opponent, you can also jam your own Uro during T3. You lose the draw and the 3 extra life, but hey, the original cast would only replace the Uro you sacrifice anyway. So that's fair game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Edit: New "Yagw" Will:
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/gaeaswill.jpg
Probably abusable with those red spells that allow to cast it.
Gaea's Will
Suspend 4 - G
Until end of turn, you may plan lands and cast spells from your graveyard. If a card would be put into your graveyard from anywhere this turn, exile that card instead.
(There is no mana value in the upper right hand corner, it's only a suspend card like Hypergenesis)
So is this just bonkers with As Foretold? It seems like it could be abused very easily.
Don't forget Collected Conjuring and ElectrodominanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
Meh, just survive 4 turns with a control deck and play 1x Will. It's about all you need to do. Cascade taps you out which makes this pointless and AF is just worse SnT. I'm thinking you just play 1x straight-up or have Burning Wish and a dream.
Taking a closer look at Electrodominance, couldn't it be used as a wincon, too? Generate mana, play it to cast Will, recast all your stuff, generate even more mana, nuke your opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
https://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/galvanicrelayp.jpg
Seems like a lot of LED fuelled turn 2 wins.
Since it is on your next turn rather than until your next turn, it needs to be storm 5 or better to be a better act on impulseQuote:
Originally Posted by ReAnimator
Can you expound a bit more on the line you r thinking of?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeplcheep
It only needs storm 2 to be a slightly worse Act on Impulse doesn't it?
Then after that it just goes higher and higher, some sort of ruby storm shell could easily support it.
Seems easy to set up really broken turns.
Maybe i'm not thinking this through straight.
In a deck that runs storm kill cons and possibly bonus round having to start over from zero seems like some negative card value.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReAnimator
What if you played things that double the spell?
I really like the design. Is this the first time they use "During your next turn, you may play that card"?
Its the most fixed version of:
Draw a card
Storm.
But a copy of a Storm spell doesn't really do much, generally speaking, because Storm only trigger when the card is Cast and copes are almost always just placed on the Stack instead (unless specifically worded like Isochron Scepter).Quote:
Originally Posted by ReAnimator
Play 4. Play 4 dark ritualsQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
How does an evoked Subtlety interact with Disapprove.
Can I cast Disapprove after the opponents creature/walker is countered in response to the sac trigger to keep the 3/3 flyer.
Going to be very juicy in StifleNought if thats the case.
You cant!
You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.
So you play it for evoke, then the if triggers, so no time to flash in a dissaprove, it will always trigger!
In dreadnought you cantrip your dissaprove then you cast your nought!
I believe that you can stifle the sacrifice trigger, its a shame if it doesnt work with Disapprove.
Correct. The evoke will create two triggers, one to sacrifice, one to bounce a spell. Both will go on the stack at the same time (which is why you can't Disapprove) but will resolve one at a time giving you plenty of time to stifle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark Kant
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/s...fseaandsky.jpg
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Svyelun, God of Sea and Sky 1UU
Legendary Creature - Merfolk God
If you control two other merfolks, Svyelun, God of Sea and Sky has indestructible.
When Svyelun, God of Sea and Sky attacks, draw a card.
Other merfolk you control have Ward :1:.
3/4
This miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight actually make merfolk playable as tier 3 deck again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Naw they're still better off playing Paradigm Shift and Thassa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoid
Scurry Oak infinite combo
So in the best case scenario, in a green stompy deck, you play:
T1:http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/scurryoak.jpg
T2: Ivy Lane Denizen, go off, swing with a comically large Tree
Too slow for normal decks, but with all the accelaration Green Stompy has, it's doable at a feasible speed. Both combo pieces are also GSZable and Allosaurus Sheppard can make the combo counter-proof.
Chalice, 3ball and TKS can be thrown in for further protection.
I think Abundant Harvest will end up being the most consequential card of this set, because now you have 2 colors for cantrip bases, and almost 3:
Blue/X: BS/Ponder
Green/X: AH/GSZ
Red/X: Faithless Looting/??
Like, black and white are still fuxxed, and nothing really compares to counters as an answer to combo, but they are getting there. The easiest way with white would be to make something like Land Tax/Gift of Estates/Tithe work on less than OR equal #'s, instead of just less than. Black, I dunno, make something dumb with lifeloss drawback.
Cling to Dust?Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
I also think Adventurous Impulse is underrated just because it's a bad Ponder.
Suspend might also be really good since it gives blue a spot removal with some time to find a counter or get rid of something forever with 3feri or if it's a token.
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/g...ousrokiric.jpg
This guy might be really good just because he got hexproof from monocolored which is a lot of removal and can pack a lot of meat on the board in a short time.Quote:
General Ferrous Rokiric
1RW
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier
Hexproof from Monocolored
Whenever you cast a multicolored spell, create a 4/4 red and white Golem artifact creature token.
You're forgetting Once Upon a Time, Ancient Stirrings, and Sylvan Library as other strong green options. Green has good cantrips now.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
Ignoble Heirarch {G} Creature – Goblin Shaman
Exalted
{T}: Add {B}, {R}, or {G}.
0/1
Hello Nic Fit and Jund players.
I want to build Winter Orb Merfolk FTW. This, lords, daze, winter orb..Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
So I had been testing a deck I dubbed Vaka Nought for the past few weeks that was built around abusing Kroxa and Dreadnought with Stifle and Torpor Orb with a Xerox shell for sometime now with decent success. I was simultaneously testing a more mana hungry bant variant abusing Uro, Sylvan Library, Noble Hierarch and Scroll of Fate to solid results...
Disapprove made we want to test it out in this shell and so far the results are extremely promising.
I am absolutely in love with Disapprove...
Vaka Nought 3.0
4 Stifle
4 Disapprove - proxied up in paper (using my Disallows to proxy for them) for testing
4 Death’s Shadow
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Street Wraith
3 Kroxa
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Thoughtseize
4 Daze
1 Reanimate
1 Snuff Out
1 Flusterstorm/Force of Negation
1 Expedite/Temur’s Battle Rage
1 Spell Pierce/Drown In the Loch
4 Wasteland
14-15 Lands
A 63 card deck for now, but I find this is the easiest and fastest way to figure out which cards I dislike seeing and want to cut.
Bant Vaka Nought 3.0
15-16 Lands
4 Wasteland
4 Stifle
4 Disapprove
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath
3-4 Noble Hierarch
1 Sylvan Library
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
3-4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4-6 Utility (Currently in the process of alternatively testing Subtlety/Ice-Fang Coatl/Brazen Borrower/Scroll of Fate/Tarmogoyf/Misdirection/Flusterstorm/Spell Snare/Divert/FoN or StP/Teferi or Thoughtseize/Push. The rest of the list is finalized, this one utility slot is the missing piece to perfecting it.)
Kind of interesting. I'd be inclined to run Veil of Summer and Avoid Fate rather than Chalice of the Void.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/ignoblehierarch.jpg
I love this little guy like you wouldn't believe it. It's great to see WotC filling a design hole like that to restore symmetry.
Now give us Sulfur Elemental for blue creatures.
CotV would be better all-purpose disruption. Veil could still be a SB card.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESG
I don’t like modern horizons since they seem to be making things because people want certain archetypes to be good rather than caring about balance or the colour pie. By itself it’s a better beater than 99% of white 3 drops which is rediculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
There are only two white 3 drops with this much power and toughness: Brimaz and Heliod, Sun Crowned.
check it out
Colour pie and balance only exists for white and black
Yeah you're right, 1UU 3/4 draw a card when it attacks (not even when it connects?) is already very solid even without the tribal fluff
Pretty strong to have an un-boltable ophidian that doesn't even need to deal combat damage
Dumb pushed card is dumb and pushed, but if you're going to count that way, how many do the other colors have? These days, it seems more like color pie and balance are things of the past, and less of the historic trend of not applying them to blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeplcheep
3 mana 3/4s or better without a downside: Brimaz, leatherback baloth, and three recently printed green cards (Old-Growth Troll,Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Steel Leaf Champion,
Thrashing Brontodon)
There are a few more ones in black, blue and green depending on how much of a downside you feel doesn’t matter (ammit eternal, headless skab, love struck beast)
In Green you also have Yorvo. And in fairness we should say Tarmogoyf for just 2 is usually 3/4 or better, and is now outclassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeplcheep
I am not sure that the balance was good and is now broken: before creatures were very weak compared to spells, this has been re-equilibrated over the last years. Even as colorless, vanilla 3/4 for 3 would not been played today.
Overall I have played quite a bit with piles that are just complete editions, and can say that except for aesthetic and nostalgic purposes (which I do value a lot), the old sets were not very fun, while the new ones are better balanced and more enjoyable as far as the gameplay is concerned.
https://cdn1.mtggoldfish.com/images/...st-MH2-265.jpg
The non-legendary clause sucks, but it seems still interesting. Too narrow for Legacy, probably.
Yeah I think for legacy where you already have animate dead it's probably not going to see play but that feels very pushed for modernQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/c...oftherealm.jpg
A shame this costs 5 mana, since it would be a nice removal engine with Luminarch Aspirant. But as it stands, it becomes too clunky at 5 mana, 3 toughness and returning said creatures.
Edit:
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/territorialkavu.jpg
Even without Triomes, this can easily be a 4/4 on T2 with two different duals. Dryad can also easily turn it into a 5/5.
Edit #2:
http://mythicspoiler.com/mh2/cards/y...leofgrowth.jpg
Urborg, but with Forests.Quote:
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
Legendary Land
Each land is a forest in addition to its other types.
We got Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth that turns all lands into forests. Do we expect a cycle of these? It definitely seems to be useful for modern tron, not sure about legacy eldrazi.
Cradle of growth seems like you could do some silly things with flagstones in applejacks.
It also seems like an ok one-of in lands to speed up lage combo instead of urborg or ancient tomb.