[Primer/Deck] Pox

hi, i love 4 chalice too but i have no idea where to squeeze in my sylvan library.

//Lands (24)
4 Bayou
1 Forest
1 Swamp
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
3 Thespian's Stage
3 Dark Depths

//Spells (37)
4 Mox Diamond
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Life from the Loam
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Living Wish
1 Crucible of Worlds
4 Liliana of the Veil
4 Smallpox----------> take out one for +1 living wish?
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Sinkhole
4 Wrench Mind----> take out one for +1 sylvan library?

total: 61 cards

//Sideboard
SB: 3 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Bojuka Bog
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 2 Sphere of Resistance
SB: 1 Dark Depths
SB: 1 Thespian's Stage
SB: 1 Tombstalker
SB: 1 Vampire Hexmage
SB: 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
SB: 1 Karakas
SB: 1 Glacial Chasm

It is a bit of a hybrid between two decks (Lands -as SCG calls it- and Pox), so decide for yourself:

Kevin Patterson
13th Place at StarCityGames.com Legacy Open on 9/7/2014

Creatures (1)
1 Nether Spirit

Planeswalkers (3)
3 Liliana of the Veil

Spells (26)
4 Mox Diamond
2 Exploration
4 Crop Rotation
4 Entomb
1 Punishing Fire
1 Faithless Looting
3 Gamble
2 Life from the Loam
1 Raven's Crime
4 Smallpox

Lands (30)
1 Forest
1 Badlands
2 Bayou
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Maze of Ith
1 Taiga
3 Thespian's Stage
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
2 Wooded Foothills
1 Karakas
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Dark Depths

Sideboard
3 Pithing Needle
3 Sphere of Resistance
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Coffin Purge
1 Golgari Charm
1 Ray of Revelation
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Glacial Chasm




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I play Mono B, as you know, and I find my cool cards would always be more playable in a blue deck. So I say to myself. "what is the point?" Granted a blue deck cannot run chalice, but if it did it would better at it than a black deck.
I see five options. Either: 1. Shape the deck around chalice. With no way to quickly dig for it this is not so good.
2. Put chalice in a normal build, accepting that you risk blank your own spells.
3. As 2 but chalice is in the SB to be brought in when you are on the play.
4. Forget about chalice and build on the strengths of Mono black: An abundance of creature kill, land destruction, discard and pure card draw. This is the theme for traditional pox builds, except for the card draw.
5. Build a 'best of' deck. This is not the same as that above.

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Originally Posted by Hardcore

I play Mono B, as you know, and I find my cool cards would always be more playable in a blue deck. So I say to myself. "what is the point?" Granted a blue deck cannot run chalice, but if it did it would better at it than a black deck.
I see five options. Either: 1. Shape the deck around chalice. With no way to quickly dig for it this is not so good.
2. Put chalice in a normal build, accepting that you risk blank your own spells.
3. As 2 but chalice is in the SB to be brought in when you are on the play.
4. Forget about chalice and build on the strengths of Mono black: An abundance of creature kill, land destruction, discard and pure card draw. This is the theme for traditional pox builds, except for the card draw.
5. Build a 'best of' deck. This is not the same as that above.

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Your question would be...? Or did you just wanted to share your thoughts? :smile: Chalice was printed to wreck U-based decks.

In general and traditionally U always had the better cards... Which are Legacy-legal. The really broken cards are B, but are unfortunately banned in Legacy.

how on earth can a 13th place get into top 8? is something amiss?

Kevin Patterson
13th Place at StarCityGames.com Legacy Open on 9/7/2014

The new card, Bloodsoaked hero, is quite right.
B for a 2/1 with:
"Bloodsoaked Hero can’t block.

Raid – 1B: Return Bloodsoaked Hero from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only if you attacked with a creature this turn"

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Originally Posted by Hardcore

The new card, Bloodsoaked hero, is quite right.
B for a 2/1 with:
"Bloodsoaked Hero can’t block.

Raid – 1B: Return Bloodsoaked Hero from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only if you attacked with a creature this turn"

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That card would have been awesome! My Night of Souls' Betrayal would end up extirpating him from my own deck though. :frown:

It would be one step towards making a black weenie deck.

Note that the name in English actualy is Bloodsoaked Champion. The other was apparently a mistranslation from Chinese or something.

4-2 did yesterday. I was in third place.
Here are the results:

Pox 2x1 Reanimator
Pox 2x1 BUG
Pox 0x2 UR Burn
Pox 2x1 Merfolk
Pox 1x2 Death and Taxes
Pox 2x0 UR Burn


My Deck:

4 Mishra's Factory
13 Swamp
4 Wasteland
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmo..
1 Maze of Ith

2 Nether Spirit

1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Spinning Darkness
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Liliana of the Veil
1 Nether Void
2 Cursed Scroll
1 Pox
3 Dark Ritual
3 Innocent Blood
4 Sinkhole
1 Toxic Deluge
4 Smallpox


Sideboard

2 Pithing Needle
2 Spinning Darkness
2 Extirpate
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Engineered Plague

Good job!

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Originally Posted by Bruno

4-2 did yesterday. I was in third place.
Here are the results:

Pox 2x1 Reanimator
Pox 2x1 BUG
Pox 0x2 UR Burn
Pox 2x1 Merfolk
Pox 1x2 Death and Taxes
Pox 2x0 UR Burn

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May I ask what happened in the D&T match? :eyebrow:

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Originally Posted by OmniStrata

May I ask what happened in the D&T match? :eyebrow:

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Needle stopped my factories, Revoker stopped Liliana and Leyline in his opening hand would not let me give target.
I did not have much to do in the 3rd game.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Needle stopped my factories, Revoker stopped Liliana and Leyline in his opening hand would not let me give target.
I did not have much to do in the 3rd game.

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i have been playing a Bg pox for a while and I feel that D&T is a pretty bad matchup; it looks great for us on the paper, but when I played the games out, it's just devastating.

Try nevinyrral's disk

I don't think it badmatch.
I believe it is a fair game. 50% - 50%.
Unfortunately in the 3rd game he came up with a better hand than mine.

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Originally Posted by Yonthan

i have been playing a Bg pox for a while and I feel that D&T is a pretty bad matchup; it looks great for us on the paper, but when I played the games out, it's just devastating.

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I've fought D&T about 4-5 times at my local Legacy tournaments and haven't lost. I kept inevitably running into my main deck Engineered Plague (1-of, naming Humans) and Night of Souls' Betrayal.

D&T I do not believe have many creatures with toughness greater than 1. That and without a quick sword due to Sinkholing the snot out of them, they can't bring enough power to the field for me to care. D&T should auto-scoop to NoSB unless they pack Disenchant, which I don't think many do. :cool:

Murderous Cut

OOH a new toy for Pox to work with. I love how fast this deck fills the yard for Tomby but if you're not using him, this is probably the new best removal since Innocent Blood!

I could see it as a one or two of, as you want to make sure you don't crowd the delve for this or tomby.

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Originally Posted by beez

I could see it as a one or two of, as you want to make sure you don't crowd the delve for this or tomby.

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I don't run tomby anymore due to Ensnaring Bridge sideboard. [both of which own RUG Thresh for free almost] It's also good for dealing with both my Nether Spirits being slammed into my graveyard for some reason or another.

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Originally Posted by sarahiscute

hi, i love 4 chalice too but i have no idea where to squeeze in my sylvan library.

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How do you like your Wrench Minds? Its a card that I've thought about a lot, since it dodges my own Chalice of the Voids, but I've never actually found room for them. My instinct would be to cut two of them for a 4th Living Wish and one Sylvan Library. I've never used Living wish in my list, but I might try it out. It seems like it could be really strong.