[Deck] Dragon Stompy

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Originally Posted by Derm

All right, fair points about Serum Powder. Not a good idea.

What does this deck do against all the Show and Tell/Emrakul decks running around? There are tons of brews and combo sideboards that cheat Emrakul and Progenitus into play pretty quickly (Hypergenesis is another example) and all their 'kill' spells cost 3 (Violent Outburst, Show and Tell), so Chalice doesn't help that much.

Short of Moon effects locking opponents out, is there any tweaking that should be done to respond to this metagame shift?

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You could always run Stingscourgers. He's probably Red's best answer right now. Second best would be REB/Pyroblast, which are dynamite in the format right now.

I don't still play this deck given how bad the metagame for it is at the moment (Though I like it against the Countertop and Landstill decks in the top 8.) But if I did, I'd very probably be giving some love to Stingscourger given how many decks rely in some form or another on a single giant threat.

Perhaps something along the lines of:

10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Seething Song

4 Chalice of the Void
3 Trinisphere
4 Blood Moon

4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Arc-Slogger
3 Stingscourger

SB:
4 Pithing Needle
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Red Elemental Blast
3 Pyroblast

I dont like the idea of 1 cmc cards playing chalice @ 1 so often.

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Originally Posted by GoldenCid

I dont like the idea of 1 cmc cards playing chalice @ 1 so often.

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Why? They're all in sideboard. And most of them are going to show up when Chal @1 is at its absolute weakest.

Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast help hit Show and Tell, Landstill, Merfolk, and depending on the list, Countertop. None of the first three decks quake a whole lot at the prospect of a Chalice for 1. Chalice for 1 can shut off Top and Cantrips against Countertop, but the Blast can take down Jace, Counterbalance, Vendilion Clique, and if their manabase is iffy, power a Moon through countermagic. Huzzah!

Pithing Needle comes in when you see cards that are a huge problem without it. This can be Goblin Charbelcher, Pernicious Deed, Survival of the Fittest, or even Jace the Mind Sculptor. It can clash with Chalice on occasion, but not as much as you'd think.

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Originally Posted by Tacosnape

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I don't still play this deck given how bad the metagame for it is at the moment (Though I like it against the Countertop and Landstill decks in the top 8.) But if I did, I'd very probably be giving some love to Stingscourger given how many decks rely in some form or another on a single giant threat.

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I agree with you, but the problem is that some giant threats can't be targeted. I guess your idea is to return their creature (if it's not sth like Progenitus) and them finish them quickly with a little luck?

4 Sloggers still Taco eh? You must know a little better, but have you tried any Lords of Shatterskull Pass? I wouldn't name Lord a "casual" card in this deck.. I think it's miles ahead of Sulfur, Akroma and even Mauler. And with so much blue, I kinda like Jaya and Blasts again. 7 of them should be too much, but also too strong against today's decks.

I'm beginning to understand fully the "play 4 Pithing Needle" part of the story:D Add Sneak Attack to your list of targets mate!


EDIT: Can you tell me why you prefer 4 Crypts over 4 Faerie Macabres? Only 2 cards removed, but we choose, so Goyf gets -2/-2. Okay, Crypt can't be discarded while it's down, waiting, but what else? Faeries are immune to countermagic, our own Trinisphere, can be pitched instantly (surprise hellbent), can be used with a mox, can be played 1st turn on the draw! I like Faeries.

I think, that bounce is not necessary in DS

I agree that Slogger isn't hat was it was in the past, anymore...

I exchanged all Sloggers with Flametongue Kavus, long time ago... it's ok, the only problem is, that it can't kill Goyfs all the time...


I dont agree 100% with Shatterskull...

sure, he is 100 times better than Sulfur or Rakroma, but better than Mauler?



YawG

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth'sWill

I think, that bounce is not necessary in DS

I agree that Slogger isn't hat was it was in the past, anymore...

I exchanged all Sloggers with Flametongue Kavus, long time ago... it's ok, the only problem is, that it can't kill Goyfs all the time...

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Same here, but you can always attack and force them to block with goyf, and then go on and kill it with FTK.

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth'sWill

I dont agree 100% with Shatterskull...

sure, he is 100 times better than Sulfur or Rakroma, but better than Mauler?



YawG

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I still play with sulfur since I always stumble across landstill decks with elspeth, and then he's gold.

and in multiple's it can also be handy with qasaly pridemage showing up more and more...

Qasali shouldn't hit the board, if u got a first Turn Moon, but I know what you mean =/ ...

Sulfur is also good against UWT, but I personally think its worthless to play Sulfur, if you don't maindeck equipment.

btw, just wanted to tell you, that Shatterskull is a monster, it's really good, and has the "bigger than Goyf" argument on his side...


@ Taco: 4 Pyroblast and 3 REB should be better than vice versa, because of Hellbent-issues =P



YawG

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...8&d=1284004936

This seems like a pretty badass four drop for this deck! comes down and swings for four immediately. Synergies with blood moon, as all of our lands will be mountains. We can use its second ability to pump up Pit Dragon to a decent size, or, if we have it in the deck, level up our other four drop.

Edit: Double Post! Sorry!

This card makes lord of shatterskull pass much better then it used to be. The mana curve is just right for the deck and its plus one ability reads, untap mountain, so even if you use it and you dont want to attack, you can net a free mana. The card is a beatstick, a source of mana, and a removal/finisher all wrapped in one. magus of the moon makes this guy great to the point where you may want to consider running 5-8 moon effects maindeck. I'm going to do some testing with this card and will relay back how well it works.

As cool as Koth is... you don't really run enough Mountains to abuse him to his full potential. Making 4/4's is all he really does most of the time, while his mana ramping (-2) and damage dealing (-5) abilities will only work if you have a significant number of mountains. Is he really worth the slots?

Seeing as control and tribal decks won't be able to cope with the last ability whether you have 2 or 10 mountains in play, and it's effectively a hasted 4/4 with an equally hasted high tide attached in a deck running mana sinks.. yes, I'm going to venture it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by Vacrix

As cool as Koth is... you don't really run enough Mountains to abuse him to his full potential. Making 4/4's is all he really does most of the time, while his mana ramping (-2) and damage dealing (-5) abilities will only work if you have a significant number of mountains. Is he really worth the slots?

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Because the deck doesn't already run cards that turn all your lands into mountains anyway ;)

Also it make Magus of the Moon non-dead against red based decks... not to say it potentially steal games with Rakdos pit-dragon and Lord of Shatterskull zzz if you run them. A 4/4 that's not removable by sorcery removal (i'm looking at you, stupid gatekeeper of mafiakir), can give you +1 mana, with haste and that occasionally win the game with his ultimate is pretty good i heard. Not to say a card that can give you card advantage + beats is just golden in a deck like this.

About FtK. He's currently good as he remove most of the creatures of the format, even Goyf sometimes. Problem i've found with him is that he simply can't attack into anything with 2 toughness. Maybe Lord is better in his spot, but Lord just get chump-blocked by merfolk and goblin... I hate how red doesn't have a decent pro blue or pro white creature. Sigh.

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Originally Posted by keys

Because the deck doesn't already run cards that turn all your lands into mountains anyway ;)

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Clever.

I definitely missed that. Given Blood Moon effects, I can see Koth being played. He could replace Gathan Raiders, though probably not 4 in 4 out.

Okay, before anyone else spouts off anything ridiculous,

1. You never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever replace Gathan Raiders.

2. Koth is an auto 3-of in this deck. Possibly 4-of.

I don't know exactly why people insist on playing Lord of Shatterskull Pass (In my opinion even Kargan Dragonlord is better), but Koth isn't an argument for him. Koth is an argument against him and for Arc-Slogger. If you can drop a Koth, then next turn you can drop an Arc-Slogger.

Also, Flametongue Kavu is a weak substitute for Arc-Slogger. Slogger wins games singlehandedly against quite a few decks. Kavu never does.

So my current list would look like this:

11 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Seething Song

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Blood Moon
2 (Fill in your best metagame card here)

4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Arc-Slogger
3 Koth of the Hammer

@Taco

Why no trini maindeck?

Bye

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Originally Posted by Tacosnape

Okay, before anyone else spouts off anything ridiculous,

1. You never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever replace Gathan Raiders.

2. Koth is an auto 3-of in this deck. Possibly 4-of.

I don't know exactly why people insist on playing Lord of Shatterskull Pass (In my opinion even Kargan Dragonlord is better), but Koth isn't an argument for him. Koth is an argument against him and for Arc-Slogger. If you can drop a Koth, then next turn you can drop an Arc-Slogger.

Also, Flametongue Kavu is a weak substitute for Arc-Slogger. Slogger wins games singlehandedly against quite a few decks. Kavu never does.

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I figured that Arc-slogger was too strong to cut, so naturally Raiders would get the axe. Is it really that good? It looks as though you are playing Raiders over 3sphere. I would think that 3sphere is too strong to cut completely.

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Originally Posted by Tacosnape

Okay, before anyone else spouts off anything ridiculous,

1. You never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever replace Gathan Raiders.

2. Koth is an auto 3-of in this deck. Possibly 4-of.

I don't know exactly why people insist on playing Lord of Shatterskull Pass (In my opinion even Kargan Dragonlord is better), but Koth isn't an argument for him. Koth is an argument against him and for Arc-Slogger. If you can drop a Koth, then next turn you can drop an Arc-Slogger.

Also, Flametongue Kavu is a weak substitute for Arc-Slogger. Slogger wins games singlehandedly against quite a few decks. Kavu never does.

So my current list would look like this:

11 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Seething Song

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Blood Moon
2 (Fill in your best metagame card here)

4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Arc-Slogger
3 Koth of the Hammer

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Is seething song really worth it here? You use it only for slogger, basically. The 4->6 jump is also important, but it's hard to have 2 3 mana cards + song in hand at turn 4. On the other hand, in a meta full of dazes it's a crack.

Since you're now running Koth, you don't need to always depend on Seething Song to ramp up Arc-Slogger mana.

I would make these changes to Tacosnape's List:

-1 Seething Song

+3 Trinisphere (to fill up that metagame slot)

The sb would run the last Trinisphere.

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Originally Posted by Vacrix

As cool as Koth is... you don't really run enough Mountains to abuse him to his full potential. Making 4/4's is all he really does most of the time, while his mana ramping (-2) and damage dealing (-5) abilities will only work if you have a significant number of mountains. Is he really worth the slots?

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If you have a blood moon in play, ALL of your lands will be mountains. I don't know if that will change your opinion of him, but he's certainly improved having four mountains in play as opposed to two mountains and two city of traitors.

With the list I am testing, I have been having lots of mana problems even though I run:

11 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Seething Song
3 Koth

Should I be running a 12th mountain?

So, congrats to Dragon Stompy for Koth?

luv,

unsupported community?

So Koth looks like a definite 3-of in a maindeck Dragon Stompy. I would like to have that ultimate active ASAP, so I would almost consider popping the ultimate the 3rd turn Koth is on the table (once he has 5 counters) which would kill him. My thought is that once you have the emblem, that Koth isn't as useful after that point. What are everyone's thoughts on how best to use him and his ultimate?

Rules question with Koth: You need a target Mountain for his +1 ability right, otherwise you can't activate the ability?

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Originally Posted by Shawon

Rules question with Koth: You need a target Mountain for his +1 ability right, otherwise you can't activate the ability?

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Yeah. I'd imagine that as long as you active the ability with a legal target, it will resolve even if the target goes away (opp Wasting your Volcanic Island or somesuch).

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Originally Posted by technogeek5000

Should I be running a 12th mountain?

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Why for the last ability??

At long last something extremely good.. I'll be missing this thread, if there will be almost nothing to discuss! But maybe it will be revived with new tournament reports from now on:D

I don't think I will continue the debate about Lord of Shatterskull Pass now. My concern is about the number of Arc-Sloggers, 3 or 4.
With 3xKoth in -and an 11th Mountain- the "unplayable Slogger" issue is almost gone (it'll never be gone 100% in magic). But if you add 4 Sloggers that means 2xTrinisphere or none are maidecked. What can we cut to increase the number of Trinispheres to 3, I'm wondering.
I used to play 3 Blood Moons until today, but now 4 are even better than before mainly due to Koth's second (and third) ability. No room there. Same with Magi of the Moon.
4 Raiders are good for pitching, are extraordinarily easy to cast (anti-manascrew) and...are most aggressive. I've never thought of cutting them.
R.P.Dragons? Nein!!
Chalices? NOT A CHANCE!
Simians, Moxes? Emergency threat, both mana-boosters, supporting hellbent. Negative.
Seething Song?? I don't think this can be cut. Adding at least 3 more 2RR spells in DS needs more support than 1 extra Mountain. Songs were crucial before, they are even more crucial now. Yes Koth gives you mana. But you need to cast him first! Just my opinion..
SO...what's left? 9 slots. 3 Koths in? => That leaves 6 slots. Why not 3xArc-Slogger and 3xTrinisphere?

If you think Trinispheres aren't needed so much in the main deck, then definitely try playing 4 Arc-Sloggers! But only 2 Trinis sound bad. I don't care if Ruel played 2 sometime in the past. They will come in your hand mostly when they are useless.

Do you guys think Jitte is worth it anymore main or SB? If you played my 3xKoth, 3xSlogger, 3xTrinisphere configuration, what would you think of the following sideboard? 4xNeedle, 4xFaerie Macabre, 2xAnarchy, 2xR.E.Blast, 1xJaya Ballard, 1xJitte, 1xRack and Ruin. Do you think Pyrokinesis,Pyroclasm or Kegs are more handy than some of my choices and which?


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Originally Posted by Psyqo

So Koth looks like a definite 3-of in a maindeck Dragon Stompy. I would like to have that ultimate active ASAP, so I would almost consider popping the ultimate the 3rd turn Koth is on the table (once he has 5 counters) which would kill him. My thought is that once you have the emblem, that Koth isn't as useful after that point. What are everyone's thoughts on how best to use him and his ultimate?

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I wouldn't focus on his ultimate... His first two abilities are too hot and kinda put you in dilemmas, estimating best mana usage and the highest damage. I'd try to have the opponent cornered before being able to use the ulti. Or I'd use the second ability to pump a Dragon in order to deal more extra damage than with the ulti. It depends on the game (example, the kind of removal the opponent has).


One more important thing to ask all of the Legacy-die-hard players...Do you expect Koth's price to go up too fast or/and too much? I'm thinking of going to the prerelease, trying to trade 4 of them and getting the rest via order. But if you guys think that it won't play too much in Legacy except in DS, maybe the best move to get 4 of them fast is an internet order. I don't know about Goblins or Sligh, but could Koth be good in Aggro-Loam for example, or any other deck? If yes, the price could increase instantly. I'd really like to have the quartet before they reach Elspeth's or Jace's price. EDIT: Koth's an Epic rare.

Your opinions will be appreciated very much as always.

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One more important thing to ask all of the Legacy-die-hard players...Do you expect Koth's price to go up too fast or/and too much? I'm thinking of going to the prerelease, trying to trade 4 of them and getting the rest via order. But if you guys think that it won't play too much in Legacy except in DS, maybe the best move to get 4 of them fast is an internet order. I don't know about Goblins or Sligh, but could Koth be good in Aggro-Loam for example, or any other deck? If yes, the price could increase instantly. I'd really like to have the quartet before they reach Elspeth's or Jace's price. EDIT: Koth's an Epic rare.

Your opinions will be appreciated very much as always.

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It is tough to say. He must be used in a base Red deck, so pretty much mono Red. If it turns out he is aggressive enough at four mana to be a staple in Standard Burn, then his price will go up, but Burn might be unplayable between Wall of Omens, Kor Firewalker and Leyline of Sanctity.

I'm gonna post the same thing as on the scars thread:

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Re: [SOM] Spoiler Discussion

From Mtgsalvation:

Precursor Golem
5 Colorless, Golem Artifact Creature, 3/3

When it comes into play, put two colorless Golem artifact creature tokens into play. Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only a single Golem, that player copies that spell for each other Golem that spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those Golems.

THIS has huge potential to be broken. The mana cost is a big barrier but I can see a dragon stompy shell with 8 double lands,chrome mox, mana monkeys, seething song, chalice of the void, rakdos pit dragon, any broken red pump spells i'm missing? I could imagine a much more combo style red stompy build which abuses challice/trini/moons to get through/bait counters/removal then force pitdragon/golem through. Big pump spell + double striking dragon/golem= insta kill. Golem also enables metalcraft- mox opal, but thats fringe playable as it doesn't contribute to turn 1/2 explosiveness.

EDIT: Only red pump I can think off is bloodlust, which is auto GG with golem for 21 damage. With helbent rakdos + 3 more mana, its 20 damage. "

thoughts?

Double striking dragon is ALREADY an instant kill! And just imagine a single Krosan Grip killing all 3 Golems! Cute. Why play 3 vulnerable 3/3 Golems and not play a 4/5 Arc-Slogger who kills your opponent's "Golems"?
Try it if you like, but remember that Bloodlust needs a threat to work. A threat doesn't need Bloodlust to work.

You could always side out the Golems in game 2. It wouldn't void your opponent's removal, but few decks run mainboard answers to artifacts other than Trygon or Quasali Pridemage, and the Golem doesn't get eaten by them so hard as by real removal.

I actually sort of agree with Precursor Golem's potential for complete absurdity, except for one problem. Precursor Golem doesn't play nice with Chalice of the Void. Chalice will stop removal aimed at your golem. Chalice will not stop the copies from hitting your baby golems.

Granted, you get 6 life or 2 basic lands if they STP or Path the thing under a Chalice for 1, but you're still re-enabling otherwise dead cards.

Nonetheless, I'll be testing this. My gut feeling is that its place is actually in some other color chalice aggro (Green) and not here, but there's a lot of potential for craftiness here.

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I actually sort of agree with Precursor Golem's potential for complete absurdity, except for one problem. Precursor Golem doesn't play nice with Chalice of the Void. Chalice will stop removal aimed at your golem. Chalice will not stop the copies from hitting your baby golems.

Granted, you get 6 life or 2 basic lands if they STP or Path the thing under a Chalice for 1, but you're still re-enabling otherwise dead cards.

Nonetheless, I'll be testing this. My gut feeling is that its place is actually in some other color chalice aggro (Green) and not here, but there's a lot of potential for craftiness here.

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You're kind of enabling dead cards, and kind of not. Say you have a Chalice out @1 and play this dude. Opponent can either deal with 9 power of attackers (probably not good), or can shave off 6 and give you 6 life, or 2 basic lands, or just bolt them (better)...but you still have 3 power. So, while a 5 mana 3/3 that ramps you two lands or gains you 6 life isn't amazing, it's those games when they don't have removal that it really shines.

This set has been very generous to Dragon stompy.

so the 3 cards in contention are:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...9&d=1284437147 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...8&d=1284004936 http://forum.tcgplayer.com/showthread.php?t=238704

These 3 cards have huge potential in DS. Of course, we will see which one can last the test of time, and only one will probably meet full time MD status as a standard build (or maybe i can be wrong).

Here's my 2 cents on each:

koth:
+++ Strong, easy to fall in love with. Incredible ultra and versatility to get u out of tuff spots. awesome cmc.
_ _ _ Has potential to put u in a bad mana position if mountains die. the 1st and third ability might be weakened w/ unresolved moons.

precursor:
+++ Amazing combo potential. I've actually played with blazing shoal to ramp up hellbent dragon b4. It does help a little when u can get t3 dragon kill when u shoal a raiders or slogger. Shoaling a raiders on this guy is a smooth 24 damage. not too shabby.
_ _ _ One bolt can end it all. As for the pte/stp argument, the single removal would kill any 5 cc creature anyways right. I actually see this as a plus, bc DS's biggest mismatch is black, but this really helps against edicts, poxes, and gatekeeper.

Phoenix:
+++ Ok, maybe no one but me likes this lol. But I just think that a 5cc with possible recursion is a nice new mechanic that could be splashed into this deck. keeps the aggro going, some evasion, and can be your out vs sweepers.
_ _ _ Very hard to play. 3 red's means your wishing for seething song a little too much. could hurt hellbent worse than the slogs.

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The one issue I have w/ this set is the knock on chalice aggro decks. Do you guys think that if proliferate becomes a legit mechanic that chalice will lose much of the power it used to carry around? The proliferate ability will prob be pushed for the next 3 sets, so hopefully it just stays in the blue realm.

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Phoenix:
Will hurt hellbent a lot worse than the slogs.

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Fixed this for you.

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Originally Posted by overseer1234

Fixed this for you.

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Lol yea. i know we gotta stay away from the RRR. i think magic just teases players sometimes trying to get them to play harder cards. that extra card no one's been talking about, but the first two, ppl are definitely considering.

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edit: u know what. I'm deck testing this, and I actually am not paying the cmc sometimes! If I have the song, great. If i don't i pitch it to mox or raiders. in the grave, i recurr it fairly ok as well for 4 colorless. so not as shabby as i rated it b4. I'm gonna still put it into consideration.

seems like Koth will be played at least 2 times in each Dragon Stompy version...

Koth will lead back to Seething Songs and Sloggers, which some of us had never cut, while others removed them for constancy reasons and Hellbent issues...

If we would create a "Standard Koth Shell", it would probably look something like this:

standard Koth DS

4 Gathan Raiders
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
3 Arc-Slogger

4 Blood Moon
4 Seething Song
3 Koth of the Hammer

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Chrome Mox
3 Trinisphere

4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
10 Mountain

1 Slot open for Slogger, Trini, Jitte, whatever


NOW we could exchange Gathans Raiders with Taurean Mauler... both cost 3, both were 2/2, and afterwards mostly 3/3 or more threatening...

RPD could be cut for FTK, Kargan Dragonlord or other stuff... a list could look like something in this direction:

non-Hellbent DS

4 Magus of the Moon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Taurean Mauler
3 Arc-Slogger
3 Flametongue Kavu
2 Kargan Dragonlord

4 Blood Moon
4 Seething Song
3 Koth of the Hammer

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Chrome Mox
3 Trinisphere

4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
10 Mountain

We should have enough "reach" with this list [3 Sloggers, 3 Koth, 2 Dragonlords], and won't have the problem of losing games like: lose Hellbent cuz of random-Slogger in hand, or lose Hellbent cuz Koth is Legendary in hand, and stuff like that... --> you all know what I mean... Also we don't lose that aggro-part what older "constant lists" had lost in comparison with "standard DS"...

what do you think?


YawG

Definitely like the the new consistent list.

I'm a little on edge with kargan. He is good, but he doesn't take over games fast enough. Maybe koth will change this.

in terms of the meta, I'm worried we still don't have solid answers for the bigs: emrakul, progenitus, and iona. In the old list, our only hope was to outrun with dragon/hellbent. What should we go for with this list? I just feel that we're getting caught up in revamping this deck, and we're not tailoring it to the current meta.

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth'sWill

If we would create a "Standard Koth Shell", it would probably look something like this:

standard Koth DS

4 Gathan Raiders
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
3 Arc-Slogger

4 Blood Moon
4 Seething Song
3 Koth of the Hammer

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Chrome Mox
3 Trinisphere

4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
10 Mountain

1 Slot open for Slogger, Trini, Jitte, whatever

YawG

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I think that list looks awesome.


But IMO, with Koth in the deck, that last open slot should absolutely go to the 11th mountain.